WILLIAM F. BUCKLEY AND KENNETH MINOGUE part 1

BUCKLEY AND MINOGUE DISCUSS HOW IDEOLOGY PROVIDES AN ALL ENCOMPASSING BUT UNTESTABLE WORLD VIEW.

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• IDEOLOGY
• MARXISM
• CAPITALISM
• OPRESSION
• REVOLUTION
• FREEDOM
• LIBERATION

[toddheap]

Are you on drugs? Bear in mind that Chomsky was likening the US imperialism to Soviet imperialism. Only someone completely unversed in the history of the world since that debate would cliam that Chomsky doesn't look like an uninformed fool in hindsight. I highly doubt he refers his fans to that debate. Conversely, Buckley fans are always referring people to that debate.

[nl1098]

There is a true difference in today's republicans and true conservatives.

[pobaldy66]

@toddheap That depends on your world view. The threat of Iran or non-interventionist. The former Soviet Union has lain low so long while the US has refocused its imperialism away from Latin America and Asia and more globally, especially in the name of dollar hegemony.

Military spending is more telling, and the former SU nations do not come close to their former spending while the US burns cash, including foreign bases, embassies and bailing out foreign banks. Check your work.

[jdmars011]

The State is an oppressor. govt is outta control! CRUSH! KILL! DESTROY!

no need for pompous debate. The time for debating ended with the election

of Barry Obama and the Democratic majority in the Congress in 2008. We have GW Bush and republaclowns to thank for the socialist nirvana in DC.

For 45-50 years liberal elites wanted what happened in 2008.

Obama doing what he was elected to do...tax and spend. spend and tax...oppress the rich! class warfare. joke is country broke! HA! HA!

[afortaleza]

@MrTruthAddict The whole thing went over your head. Try again.

[MrTruthAddict]

What a joke. A full hour of two pompous windbags sitting there agreeing with each other and trying desperately to pretend that only their opponents have an ideology, and thus ulterior motives. It's like when Christians today try to say "I don't have a religion, I have a relationship with an invisible man." It's just laughable.

Rupert Murdoch must have watched shows like this and realized that the arguments are so transparently dishonest that it was necessary to "sex them up" a bit. FAIL

[MrTruthAddict]

@nl1098 The reason why is that unless you mix in flashy graphics and booming intros, conservatism can't be sold. When people drone on like these two airbags did for an hour, it is easy to see how flimsy their "arguments" are. It's just two pompous asses stroking each others egos.

Faux News found the formula that sells their ideology, and that's "FEAR" plain and simple. Whip people up into a frenzy about the evil "libruls" and homos and communists and we'll sell a lot of commercial spots.

[AaronBruceLadner]

They should bring back Firing Line.

[MikhailSilverwood]

@Questfortruth86 Lenin did his best to keep the country stable; he put Stalin as head of the central committee, which was a bureacratic position and not one of power. After Lenin died, Stalin spent five years building up bureacratic elitist forces, which then allowed him to rise to power in 1928. All the great Bolsheviks, Bukrakin, Zinoviev, Trotsky, were either killed or expelled, which then created the Stalinist state capitalist tyrannic monster we read about in history books.

[MikhailSilverwood]

@Questfortruth86 Finally, Stalin's rise to power was a counterrevolution, not a succession. When the workers took power in 1917, every capitalist country tried to crush it: they feared that the example of worker power would spread into being a world revolution. And so millions of soldiers invaded Russia so at to destroy the soviet. After the civil war, Russia plunged into poverty and all the most progressive workers had been killed; Russia was slipping into barbarism.

[MikhailSilverwood]

@Questfortruth86 Thirdly, workers have only ever used violence as a means of defending themselves. When the Paris Commune happened, it was hailed by Marx and Engels as a perfect example of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Paris was the first example in human history of worker self-govern. The only time that the workers had to be violent was when they came up against the Prussian army trying to crush them.

When the bourgeois counterrevolution comes, workers either fight back or be killed.

[MikhailSilverwood]

@Questfortruth86 Secondly, if Bakunin did ever support the gradual transition into communism, then he is a fool. The history of capitalism shows that the bourgeois ruling class will never surrender their profits and privilege, and the only practical means of actually ending capitalism is by overthrowing the bourgeoisie. To make the working class the ruling class, and thereby eradicating oppression and exploitation forever.