You have probably heard of so-called race realists, people who claim to portray the truth about races. Naturally these people are called racists by those who need there to be racists to blame the failure of the race equality agenda upon. Have you also considered the race surrealists? These are people who hold, or at least promote, the view that races can't or don't exist.
@lordblazer What defined the dark age as a dark age? You can't have a dark age unless you have previously demonstrated a period of high culture. Nobody says that Australia awoke from a sixty thousand year long dark age, do they? Dark in this usage is a relative term, it is never used as an absolute, even in the phrase darkest Africa.
MartinJWillett 10 hours ago
@lordblazer You have time to make four comments when one is the limit and yet you don't have time to explain why you are being so predictably patronizing? You clearly seem to think that I am a racist who believes that blacks are inferior to whites because of nineteenth century thinking.
There is no evidence of human equality at all. You believe in it on faith, in a typically 21st century way, all evidence of inequality is seen as evidence of white racism not of racial difference.
MartinJWillett 10 hours ago
@MartinJWillett
Anyway getting off of this. I find the things you say is very much 19th century. I wish I could say join the 21st century, but I do not have the time to explain why you should. Anyway all I can say is study biology and genetics a bit more. the skin tone differences between populations is mostly superficial. I know what you are trying to do, but you shouldn't try too hard to merge biology with the social sciences. Anyway goodluck with the cognitive dissonance.
lordblazer 13 hours ago
@MartinJWillett
That is the problem. It wouldn't be fair to say Europeans are inferior because they spent 1,000 yrs in a dark age. We have to fast forward to the US. It is something to note the cultural & structural violence that has been applied to African Americans. A group of people oppressed that long, you think that there wouldn't be an achievement gap? Of course there will when you collectively oppress entire groups and bar them from certain fields and careers and education attainment
lordblazer 13 hours ago
@MartinJWillett
In the whole of human civilization. Western civilization experienced a rise nearly 500 to 600 yrs ago. I like to say 600 yrs ago because this is when the christian reformation era starts which led to some interesting developments that got Europe out of its 1000 yrs of dark ages. Now considering europe was in a dark age for so long,it would be fair game to say its evidence of inferiority to the others. but that actually doesn't make sense. You simplify the human experience
lordblazer 13 hours ago
@MartinJWillett
socially race or better use ethnicity is very real in the social sciences. Biology not being a social science. The African American ethnicity is so extremely diverse that there are people where you need to ask what their "race" is. The problem with what you are saying is that you ignore environmental factors, you ignore history of social sciences, science, you ignore history of racial relations in the US.You ignore world history,and how Europeans became dominate
lordblazer 13 hours ago
@demerc But still people do conclude that races don't, can't and shouldn't exist, that all observed differences reveal racism not racial difference and that anybody who doesn't agree with the consensus is a right wing ignorant unscientific bigoted racist. Population differences exist, the term race was first used with these differences in human populations in mind. The word means the same as it always has, notwithstanding the failures of making neat categories in the past.
MartinJWillett 2 weeks ago
@demerc You have not demonstrated anything except ego.
MartinJWillett 2 weeks ago
@demerc Population differences,which exist,at least for the moment defy and bely macro categorization. Much of the testing until now is so scattered,incomplete and done with specific racialist agenda that it is not even remotely realistic to conclude anything, especially any macro race oriented agenda. Furthermore on a socio-political level macro categories inspire irrational collectivist attitudes that are completely detrimental to humanity.
demerc 2 weeks ago
@MartinJWillett ahh, OK, thanks then. The concept of race is logically fallacious, as I've demonstrated.You accuse libs,of which i am not(i am a political atheist) of dismissing race because of a desire for political correctness all the while you pretend to be indifferent to the concept yet you clearly believe in it based on your own psychological tendencies and political persuasions and play both sides of the fence. You're not being wholly honest with me or yourself.
demerc 2 weeks ago