Milton Friedman - Health Care in a Free Market
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What a dip shit. America and Israel are the top two countries in terms of medical patents and the US has number one for years. Never let FACTS get in the way of your DOGMA!
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@LibertyDownUnder A faggot says what?
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@DoctorCapitalist Well, there might be a time when democracy will be substituted by something better, and that might be what you are seeking for. But democracy as a system has worked in favor for most nations in the developed world for at least 200 years. I understand what you mean by mobrule, but consider what we had before(a feudal aristocracy)so it has been the best option so far. But I agree, things should be voluntary. As a whole.
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@Faerlon123 To be clear, I support free markets and I support socialist type communes as a kind of social security. In fact, I support anything as long as it is voluntary,
My problem is with democracy and the catchphrase "the people" when it should be called for what it is: Mob rule. The word Democracy has this kind of emotional feel which hinders people from calling it for what it is even though it's blindly obvious.
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@DoctorCapitalist It's not a problem, I love debating people on different subjects. But overall, I agree that individualism and free markets should be sought after to a degree. My country ranks among the highest in the world for economic freedom and individual freedom, even if we have *gasp* high taxes and socialized healthcare. If America wants it, sure they should have it, I'm just giving my perspective. It's not always that black and white as it's depicted.
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@Faerlon123 Sorry for being preachy, but I'm just trying to show you the libertarian perspective (or rather, the voluntaryist perspective which is more extreme libertarianism).
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@Faerlon123 Basically, libertarianism is opposed to democracy because democracy is mob rule. It is the majority imposing their will, their interests and value systems onto the minority, often using violence to force those to submit the product of their own labour to them. Democracy is not so much to do with representing "the people", but rather the majority. It is the idea that a majority can consent on behalf of any given individual.
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@DoctorCapitalist There is seriously something detached about the mind-set, when you consider taxation a sin equivalent with paying Hitler money for killing people. In my country, we know perfectly well where the money goes, and if you ever come and visit our country, you'll notice it's nothing like what your right-wing lunatic propagandist politicians have told you since the 60s. There are major problems in my country, but there is a reason my country always tops HDI.
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@Faerlon123 Libertarianism is not so much about promoting free markets (although free markets are usually supported for consequential reasons) but rather to promote freedom of individuals to decide what they can do with their own body and the products produced by their bodies.
This means that there is nothing preventing people from entering friendly societies where people agree to do the socialist way of things, or anything like that.
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@Faerlon123 By having everyone respect individual will, you get the most equal fair representation of the population. This is agorism. There is nothing stopping people from joining certain societies (they could enter a contract with others if they wished to enter a socialist society, but they could not force others into it and take over factories against the factory provider's will).
The government is not society. Society (not just majority) evolves horizontally, not from top down.
Milton Friedman is terribly charming.
orange11emilie 2 weeks ago 4
@tehatemachine, Liberals do occasionaly find the constitution. Like when it's about the right of Muslims to build a mosque in NY, or the protestors in OWS.
LibertyDownUnder 4 days ago 2