EBM (Energy By Motion) machine

This uniquely configured rotating machine generates additional torque on the shaft when rotated through the magnetic field. Combined electrical/heat output exceeds input energy by over 40 percent.

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[jeabo0adhd]

I've seen this guy before. He claims that there is a fourth law of force.

He thinks that a force applied to an object receives equal force by that object and tries to use both forces to generate power.

He is a quack.

[rjgaughan]

It is highly unlikely that you have seen 'this guy' before as he doesn't make the claims you have stated above. Your comments indicate that you possess a very limited knowledge about the subject matter.

[Simboiss]

Laws of Thermodynamics are not absolute. Human knowledge and science is not static. Concepts that are taken for granted for decades can be wrong...

[killerbee04x]

LOL..THE THeRMODYNAMICS LAWS are worthless..When other laws take over...Get an education..PLz...They are right.. TESLA...TEC.......TESLA...TEC.­....TESLA TEC...Sorry this is a rip off of TESLA research...They are just re-inventing the wheel over and over again.. FIRST STUPIDs OUT THERE LIGHT IS RADIO WAVES...RADIO WAVES IS ENERGY...ENERGY IS MATTER...SO STOP WITH THE HEAT.THAT IS NOT ENERGY...JUST A MIRROR REFLECTION OF ANOTHER FORCE BEING APPLYED...

[Nabo00o]

Okey, on the first one I will kindly accept that we have to disagree.

On the second however, that is your problem, not mine.

[aradioactivedonut]

@Nabo00o

There is your problem. Experiments are always derived from theory, and philosophy does not change natural laws.

[Nabo00o]

Or more accurately, today you would call me a heretic or a 'con' if I demonstrated some experiment violating your view of physical reality.

I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but I want to push these thoughts out here if it can make sense to you or anyone else....

[Nabo00o]

@aradioactivedonut

To the observer, without any knowledge of force over distance, it would look like the plastic exerted a magic power to bend the water. A lot of humans would believe this.

As to the above, the level of expertise that the scientists have accumulated through the extreme effort put into this project probably goes far beyond what regular physicists possess. In my world view experimental results always count more than theoretical results, but these guys used one to get the other.

[aradioactivedonut]

@Nabo00o Following that line of logic implies that the guy that put together that useless hunk of copper not only is demonstrating never previously described phenomena (like the ones demonstrated in your hypothetical electrostatics experiment), but also that he has expertise that transcends everyone else's (like the "magician" in your example.) Flawed. Also, in your example the diversion of the tap water is clearly visible to the observer. All I see in this video is a series of copper coils.

[Nabo00o]

@aradioactivedonut

Uhm did I said I had any?

And I like to believe in things which makes sense too, and the common laws of thermodynamics does... if they are used within their boundaries.

Example: I you did not know anything about electric fields, you would call me a magician if I demonstrated a simple but powerful example of electrostatic attraction: By rubbing plastic against hair or cotton, it will bend the shape of falling water from a tap.

Do you see were I'm going with this?

[aradioactivedonut]

@Nabo00o Excuse me, I think I will just stick with the laws of the conservation of matter, energy, and information. You can keep your ridiculous magic generator. I hope you like taking cold showers with your "great heating machine".

[Nabo00o]

@aradioactivedonut

"And why are they measuring their heat-loss (which is an inefficiency) as part of their purported "net energy gain"? Its all just bad science. "

It is not bad science. Think about what you are saying now...

If I had a device using 1000 watts, and it generated motive power of 800 watts, and btu's coresponding to 2000 watts, isn't that worth taking into account?

It would make a great heating machine for instance...

[blabby102]

Well, sever years have passed. How many "commercial uses" is this machine generating power for now?