@alvstel Not true. Messi does score for Argentina and also gives assists. He isn't as good as Maradona was for Argentina, but people tend to forget the fact that Maradona was one of the very few who was top fit at the 86 WC.
Argentina just has pretty avarage midfielders. They need players to provide him, not even of Xavi's level. Of course it's easier with Xavi and Iniesta (though Messi scored a CL hattrick whithout them ;)
@eetjaarem Thats all true, but messi hasn't the leadership maradona had . And also, messi has been incapable to score in south america in his selection, as he scores in europe. Maradona could win games by himself, and messi almost start to cry in the field. Messi needs Barcelona behind him, and the argentinian press to be the best, maradona simply scored in every team he played, with a very strong personality. Messi, at least in South america is just one more player, thats all.
And don't forget that Maradona was injured right before the WC. He played very few games that season, and was able to be top fit at the WC when other players weren't. ;)
Spain and Germany have far better squads atm. Holland aswell ( at least better than England ).
Don't forget that Messi is only 24 years old. I think ability wise he more than equals Maradona. And don't forget the way Maradona won the WC (handball). Messi is also more intelligent and football today is of a much higher level than back in the 80's. The number of games increased aswell.
@eetjaarem yeah ok but he doesn't equal maradona. Mardona did everything himself he had no talented players around him like messi does. Messi has Fabergas, iniesta, xavi. I still want messi to perfom for argentina like he does for barcelona, argentina should be winning the WC every time witt their squad, just like england but england's situation is worse and it better be resolved soon( not from england)
@ocen89 Cruyff didn't win anything for his country either. So what? What did Eto'o win? Bergkamp? CR? They were still all brilliant players nevertheless.
What determines being the best player ever? Winning the bloody WC or your abilities? Messi already does alot for Argentina, he scores alot of goals there aswell. But the other Argentine players (defense!) isn't good enough. Plus they had a world's worst coach during the WC. Every single week Messi scores at Barca. Every single week he shows his amazing qualities. I don't get he's got Xavi and Iniesta around him. He is still the best player ever.
@alvstel Not true. Messi does score for Argentina and also gives assists. He isn't as good as Maradona was for Argentina, but people tend to forget the fact that Maradona was one of the very few who was top fit at the 86 WC.
Argentina just has pretty avarage midfielders. They need players to provide him, not even of Xavi's level. Of course it's easier with Xavi and Iniesta (though Messi scored a CL hattrick whithout them ;)
Messi is only 24, he still got a decade.
eetjaarem 3 months ago
@eetjaarem Thats all true, but messi hasn't the leadership maradona had . And also, messi has been incapable to score in south america in his selection, as he scores in europe. Maradona could win games by himself, and messi almost start to cry in the field. Messi needs Barcelona behind him, and the argentinian press to be the best, maradona simply scored in every team he played, with a very strong personality. Messi, at least in South america is just one more player, thats all.
alvstel 3 months ago
@ocen89
And don't forget that Maradona was injured right before the WC. He played very few games that season, and was able to be top fit at the WC when other players weren't. ;)
eetjaarem 4 months ago
@ocen89
Spain and Germany have far better squads atm. Holland aswell ( at least better than England ).
Don't forget that Messi is only 24 years old. I think ability wise he more than equals Maradona. And don't forget the way Maradona won the WC (handball). Messi is also more intelligent and football today is of a much higher level than back in the 80's. The number of games increased aswell.
eetjaarem 4 months ago
@eetjaarem yeah ok but he doesn't equal maradona. Mardona did everything himself he had no talented players around him like messi does. Messi has Fabergas, iniesta, xavi. I still want messi to perfom for argentina like he does for barcelona, argentina should be winning the WC every time witt their squad, just like england but england's situation is worse and it better be resolved soon( not from england)
ocen89 4 months ago
@ocen89 Cruyff didn't win anything for his country either. So what? What did Eto'o win? Bergkamp? CR? They were still all brilliant players nevertheless.
eetjaarem 4 months ago
@ocen89
I'm getting tired of this.
What determines being the best player ever? Winning the bloody WC or your abilities? Messi already does alot for Argentina, he scores alot of goals there aswell. But the other Argentine players (defense!) isn't good enough. Plus they had a world's worst coach during the WC. Every single week Messi scores at Barca. Every single week he shows his amazing qualities. I don't get he's got Xavi and Iniesta around him. He is still the best player ever.
eetjaarem 4 months ago
@eetjaarem for his country he doesn't do crap. until he wins the WC yes. his still the best player in the world ATM but never not yet
ocen89 4 months ago
@brailaaaaa its a liiiiiittle bit gay to list a load of men that you 'love'
MattTheOak 7 months ago
@MattTheOak i love their football skill. ok, retard?!
brailaaaaa 7 months ago