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[timwdegner]

Ron Paul/John Tate and company have some ideas and perspectives I entirely agree with wholeheartedly, but they would retain a lot more credibility and have a greater impact on people who value reason if they would use concrete, objective, non-colored speech and terminology. Just stick to the facts and tell us what we need to know. Being passionate about politics is great, but exercising some calm, honest, objective, open-minded discipline goes a long way toward furthering the right causes.

[hoodratsk8r]

WE all need to be Americans and stand together

[datzfast]

40 percent of all voters voted for a tea party candidate. its the largest political machine out there today. sorry democrats sorry republicans. it all over for you guys.

[datzfast]

its ok 30 democrats that voted for this were fired by their own supporters. i figure the republicans that voted for it are in the next round.

[Juni1013]

1 person is a rebel without a cause.

[aaronf666]

@maskedphrogg

That's the best you've got? Say what you mean and mean what you say... I'll keep your sage advice in mind.

While it's obvious that we disagree, I HIGHLY doubt that any of my contributions were 'gibberish'. It seems like you're the only one who's confused here--and, unfortunately, defensive to boot.

I never purported to spend ANY time on science... That's why I leave it to the scientists--as should Mr. Tate.

Enjoy the last word. After all, this is your video--you're the defendant.

[maskedphrogg]

@aaronf666

If you would pay as much attention to your own writing as you purport to spend on "science" then you wouldn't engender so much confusion on what your viewpoint is. I'll leave you with one last piece of advice. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Follow those two simple rules and others stand a chance of understanding what it is you are trying to express.

Unless the aim was to introduce gibberish and confusion into the conversation. In that case you have achieved the goal handily

[aaronf666]

@maskedphrogg

Honestly, if you (and Mr. Tate) actually payed attention to scientific fact--go figure--my initial post makes perfect sense. And, moreover, 'supposedly' usually confers some sense of sarcasm or doubt. Why would you even have to ask whether I think we have a free market? We haven't had a free market since FDR, and probably long before even him.

By the way, thanks for responding to my WHOI reference. But I guess that proves you and Mr. Tate wrong, which is telling of you both.

[maskedphrogg]

@aaronf666

Make up your mind. Is there "unprecedented control" over the economy or is it a free market economy. Unless and until you settle on a conclusive view your expressed viewpoint will most likely remain unintelligible. Which goes a long way to explaining why your initial post made no sense.

[aaronf666]

@maskedphrogg

Lastly,

You think the federal government doesn't ALREADY have 'unprecedented control' over our supposedly free-market economy? Every email I read from Mr. Tate sounds the alarmist bell at the death of the all-too-pure private sector by 'big-government-loving statists'.... As if that didn't happen decades ago!

[aaronf666]

@maskedphrogg

"Around 88 thousand million tonnes of carbon is released from the surface of the world's oceans each year, with an annual uptake by the oceans of 90 thousand million tonnes." -- Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute

The oceans are, and always have been, a carbon sink--at least according to science. And I'd much rather leave the science to scientists, NOT some politico provocateur like Tate. Mr. Tate could have expressed his ideas more clearly by stating the facts.

[aaronf666]

@maskedphrogg

Thanks for the heads up on my poor literary comprehension.

Well, I watched the video again... and as painstaking as its alarmist rhetoric is, I'm still just as disappointed. You think we'll EVER pass any climate legislation that will negatively affect our economy? Clearly you're giving FAR too much credit to Congress. The economy ALWAYS win. Just ask any of our vanishing natural resources...