Hoodwinked at Shanksville: The Boeing 757 Challenge!

Yes, until someone with experience in airplane crash investigation, physics, geology and aviation proves different; until someone shows something more than a clip from an A&E movie, a really bad out of scale animation of a plane crashing, and an even worse photo of a plane that crashed under completely different circumstances, then yes, that's what I'll believe, not the nonsensical ravings of a conspiracy theorist.

Proves different? Shouldn't the original claim be proven first? Or do you blindly believe whatever our govt feeds you like a good govt loyalist?

I never said I believed what the government said. After 20 years in the Army, one of the many things I've learned is that you never stop being a skeptic, or to put a fine point on it, don't believe everything you hear, or read or see. But back to the original question: Do you have experience in aviation, geology, physics or forensics? It's one thing to out forth a theory, it's another to back it up.

Um pal, the challenge is for people like YOU who believe the official Flight 93 crash story. All you have to do is prove the govt's version that most of Flight 93 went underground. That's an 80 ton plane. How hard can it be to prove the govt's claim that most was buried?!?

Come Army vet with 20 years experience. Show this "no nothing" up and win the challenge. It should be pathetically easy for you, or ANYONE who believes the official story to do.

Oh good god...OK, I have no evidence (except what I've seen and heard in the media) to prove what did or did not happen at Shanksville. But I'm willing to admit that. I'm also reiterating what I sad before -- I don't necessarily believe what the government is saying, what I am saying is that I believe that a 757 crashed in this field, and will believe it until someone comes up with evidence that one didn't. If you don't believe what happened, great, but back up what you say with evidence.

So you come in hear and insult me and then admit you can't prove shit? Don't give me all that "I'm in the military protecting your rights" crap cause you got offended that I punched backed after you were the one who came here and punched first.

The govt made the claim about what happened to Flight 93. They, or people who believe in their claim has to prove that claim to be true. Not me.

Again, if a 757 mostly buried, how hard can it be to prove???

One more thing. Watch the sarcasm. It is people like ME that have defended the rights of people like YOU for a long time. You don't trust the government, fine, who does? You don't like the current or past administration? No problem. Just don't take a swipe at someone who's taken an oath to protect the rights you're exercising here. It is people like ME that put our butts on the line for people like YOU, and believe me, it isn't for the money or gracious accommodations.

It just dawned on me. Did you come in here swinging because you're afraid my research might proves a govt conspiracy and that would mean all this time our govt used you as one of their pawns for their unjust wars?

You know, I thought this could be a reasonable discussion, but it seems I was wrong. Sure, I should have left the tin foil helmet part out, but all I asked for were your qualifications and some evidence to back up your theories. Now you insult me by calling me a pawn? OK, go ahead. I put myself out for public scrutiny, as did you, so I should expect a jab here and there, as should you. That said, I truly hope you find the answers you're looking for and wish you nothing but the best.

OK, now that we're back to a civil discussion, I don't know why the qualifications I have (or have not) matter for my challenge. My challenge is for those who believe the official story at Shanksville to prove it. The official story states that most of Flight 93 buried itself. OK, win my challenge by proving most of Flight 93 was buried. It's that simple.