There is no rapture people. Pro 10:30 is clear enough for a babe. All through Psalm 37 we see the meek remain. Father clearly states He is against those who teach rapture in Ezekiel 13. And Messiah prays against the rapture in John 17:15. If one follows 2Tim 2:15 and opens Concordance for 1Thess 4:17. One understands clouds is not sky puffy clouds and air is not higher air. When your rapture does not come, you will be part of the great falling away predicted.
Spiritual Israel is not physical Israel. U refuse to read Genesis 22:17. Yes in the church u have Jew or Hebrews really n gentiles. But not all physical Israel will come to the church. Today there are real hebrews that are not in the church, but God has not done away with them. Read Romans 9,10,11th chapter. It's talking about physical Israel. Replace Israel with the church n see if it makes sense. I knew u wouldn't understand. So be it! 144,000 is Israel, not the church. Obey Acts 2:38.
@rossdaboss1959 No sir, u r wrong about Israel and the church being "two different people" because we are not talking about physical Israel because the Bible says only a "remnant" will be saved of the physical seed of Abraham (see Zechariah 8:12). The church is a spiritual organism made up of all believers in Christ, both Jew and Gentile "for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles..." (I Corin. 12:13). Spiritual Israel is the church: Roman 2:29, 4:16
@gadawk2010 Israel n the church is two different people. One as the stars of heaven n one as the sand of the sea. READ! Genesis 22:17. U still probably won't understand because your mind is fixed on what u think n not what the Bible is really saying. Peace out!
U can believe whatever u want to. I know what i believe n no sinner that's not saved will make me believe different. Jesus only started his church on Pentecost. If u can't understand that, then it's no need to talk about it. Just wait n see who's right n who's wrong. People make me laugh when they think they know so much, n never had a real encounter with the Holy Ghost. God knows his book more than u, i'm sure. Don't worry we don't have long to see the truth.
@rossdaboss1959 Sir, I quoted to u the scripture where it said that the "church" was in the wilderness while Moses was leading them to the promise land (Acts 7:38), so how can u say that the church started on the day of Pentecost? I would rather believe God's word than the words of a sinful man.
@gadawk2010 I know u just kidding me. I know u got enough sense to see that it's speaking about the future of Jesus coming to the church. The church that Jesus started was a mystery revealed in our time. Believe whatever u will. We will all give account of what u believed. The church started on the day of Pentecost. The Jews, Gentiles n Samaritans all came the same way, Acts 2:38. Have u come that way yet? Have u received the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues yet?
@rossdaboss1959 Sir, The bible says that there was a "church" in the wilderness, speaking about the children of Israel coming out of slavery in Egypt. Acts 7:38 So how can u say there was no church for the first 69 weeks of Daniel's prophecy???
@gadawk2010 The whole 7 years is the tribulation. It fulfills the last week of years that were determined upon Israel. Only 69 weeks were fulfilled so far. The church wasn't here for the 69 weeks n they will not be here for the last week. The most important thing is to be saved the right way n living a holy life. Acts 2:38 is God's plan of salvation.
There is no rapture people. Pro 10:30 is clear enough for a babe. All through Psalm 37 we see the meek remain. Father clearly states He is against those who teach rapture in Ezekiel 13. And Messiah prays against the rapture in John 17:15. If one follows 2Tim 2:15 and opens Concordance for 1Thess 4:17. One understands clouds is not sky puffy clouds and air is not higher air. When your rapture does not come, you will be part of the great falling away predicted.
MinisterofYHWH 5 months ago
Spiritual Israel is not physical Israel. U refuse to read Genesis 22:17. Yes in the church u have Jew or Hebrews really n gentiles. But not all physical Israel will come to the church. Today there are real hebrews that are not in the church, but God has not done away with them. Read Romans 9,10,11th chapter. It's talking about physical Israel. Replace Israel with the church n see if it makes sense. I knew u wouldn't understand. So be it! 144,000 is Israel, not the church. Obey Acts 2:38.
rossdaboss1959 8 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 No sir, u r wrong about Israel and the church being "two different people" because we are not talking about physical Israel because the Bible says only a "remnant" will be saved of the physical seed of Abraham (see Zechariah 8:12). The church is a spiritual organism made up of all believers in Christ, both Jew and Gentile "for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles..." (I Corin. 12:13). Spiritual Israel is the church: Roman 2:29, 4:16
gadawk2010 8 months ago
@gadawk2010 Israel n the church is two different people. One as the stars of heaven n one as the sand of the sea. READ! Genesis 22:17. U still probably won't understand because your mind is fixed on what u think n not what the Bible is really saying. Peace out!
rossdaboss1959 8 months ago
U can believe whatever u want to. I know what i believe n no sinner that's not saved will make me believe different. Jesus only started his church on Pentecost. If u can't understand that, then it's no need to talk about it. Just wait n see who's right n who's wrong. People make me laugh when they think they know so much, n never had a real encounter with the Holy Ghost. God knows his book more than u, i'm sure. Don't worry we don't have long to see the truth.
rossdaboss1959 8 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 Sir, I quoted to u the scripture where it said that the "church" was in the wilderness while Moses was leading them to the promise land (Acts 7:38), so how can u say that the church started on the day of Pentecost? I would rather believe God's word than the words of a sinful man.
gadawk2010 8 months ago
@gadawk2010 I know u just kidding me. I know u got enough sense to see that it's speaking about the future of Jesus coming to the church. The church that Jesus started was a mystery revealed in our time. Believe whatever u will. We will all give account of what u believed. The church started on the day of Pentecost. The Jews, Gentiles n Samaritans all came the same way, Acts 2:38. Have u come that way yet? Have u received the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues yet?
rossdaboss1959 8 months ago
@rossdaboss1959 Sir, The bible says that there was a "church" in the wilderness, speaking about the children of Israel coming out of slavery in Egypt. Acts 7:38 So how can u say there was no church for the first 69 weeks of Daniel's prophecy???
gadawk2010 8 months ago
@gadawk2010 The whole 7 years is the tribulation. It fulfills the last week of years that were determined upon Israel. Only 69 weeks were fulfilled so far. The church wasn't here for the 69 weeks n they will not be here for the last week. The most important thing is to be saved the right way n living a holy life. Acts 2:38 is God's plan of salvation.
rossdaboss1959 8 months ago
Very nicely done Bro' top notch 1st class 10*stars
But will the deceived pre tribbers ever learn ?
The Rapture is - pre wrath not pre trib'
Loonypics 1 year ago