Ireland's Hated Hero - Eamon DeValera Part 4

BBC Documentary on Eamon DeValera

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[donnieD20]

De Valera was a protype of the sleeze politicians to later come into world politics. Collins was a George Washington for Ireland, effectively seizing all opportunities to gain independence for the people NOT HIMSELF. De Valera betrayed our Republic because he wanted to secure personal prestige and wanted to take the glory for himself. I look forward to meeting the Big Fella someday, until then Long Live Collins' Republic!!

[Maguirearch]

@TheSergeantslash I agree with you one hundred percent....he castigates McGuiness for calling his detractors West Brits....It's OK for him and Ruth Dudley Edwards to preach from the relative sanctuary of the south but none of them lived in teh poor working class areas of the urban Nationalist North....effectively guys like O'Toole and Gay Mitchell are quite content for Northern Ireland to remain under Westminister control

[art724]

@donnieD20 If you plan on meeting Michael Collins, it will be in the hell reserved for all traitors. Up the Republic! Up Dev!

[Maguirearch]

The republic of Ireland needs a proper secular society ...not one so over archingly dominated by Catholicism

[Maguirearch]

Eoin McNeill and his ilk relegated the Nationalist people to years of Stormont misrule...this is the legacy of Collins and these Southern Poiticians they didnt do enough for the North....Charlie Haughey cared more about Northerners as his parents were from Tyrone ...........I hope McGuinness gets to be President and shows the Unionist People we have a shared future....the Nationalist people of Northern Ireland were abandoned by succesive southern governments...

[Maguirearch]

@donnieD20

Dev Fucked up the South himself and John Charles McQuaid scared the Orange men out of a united country.....

But Collins was quite hasty signing that treaty if he knew it was gonna cause ructions he should have Waited...I am From Fermanagh and Beleive at least South Fermanagh and South Armagh Plus Derry City and Perhaps Most of Tyrone should have been ceeded to the south....it makes me sick to see Michale McDowell praising collins and his relation Mr Eoin McNeill....

[jratt2]

@F4foxbravo995 Actually Dev was a democratically elected leader with a mandate to keep Eire neutral, not a terrorist. Don't you think it odd that in a war for democracy that the democratic will of a neutral people should be cast aside? Probably not, your American - no sense of irony. Irish neutrality was stacked in favour of the allies. There were no fuel dumps for uboats. Read the Cranborne Report online. Read a history book. Educate yourself.

[F4foxbravo995]

DEv was a terrorist, a class one ass-hole and tin-pot terrorist. It is a pity Churchill dissuaded Roosevelt from taking "neutral" Nazi loving Dev and his free state over and shooting him. Would have saved many many Merchant Navy crew members lives and from the airstrip at Cork (Ovens) brought the war to the U-Boats faster. No nice "neutral" waters to hide , no nice friendly fuel dumps to resupply from. Every 12th of July and November 5th Dev is one of the names still burned..

[bigbadbrainz]

Mcguiness talkin bout dev bein a traitor to republicans, I guess it takes one to know one

[NiamhFergus]

Collins truly believed that the treaty would be a stepping stone to freedom and not permanent. De Valera however did dismantle it as far as possible

[neil028]

De Valera killed micheal collins end off