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Theist Vs Atheist Debate: "Does God Not Exist?" (Part 1/3)

Uploaded with permission. January 5th, 2003 at Islamic Institute of New York. First Edition Tawheed Institute http://www.tawheed1.org Read the transcript at http://www.madressa.org Length: 2...  
 
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GuruTruthSpeak (2 hours ago) Show Hide
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RE: Christians have just as much evidence that their saviour is God...

Wrong!! Their saviour HAS A GOD! Christianity is totally mindless! I challenge any Christian to come and debate here...

Islam is perfect. It's undeniable and the Quran is purity personified.
GuruTruthSpeak (2 hours ago) Show Hide
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RE: What if Islam is wrong?

What if it's right? What makes you think it's wrong? The Islamic belief is that if the concept of God is not preceded by negation, falls into an incorrect understanding of God. You negate EVERYTHING except God.

Look at our declaration of faith; There is NO God, except Allah.

Negation and affirmation. The islamic concept of God is absolutely IRREFUTABLE.
amertpunya (18 hours ago) Show Hide
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like minkomadness said, just because he is athiest, it doesnt mean he is lacking of the moral vs immoral concept.
amertpunya (18 hours ago) Show Hide
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5. so in my opinion, we the people will fight for our existence for some reason i dont really need to explain because you know it. and that is your belief.
amertpunya (18 hours ago) Show Hide
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4. the difference between us is the way well be buried. and afterlife? none of us can prove theyre 100% right and confirmed so stop saying others belief is lacking of something blab la bla mindless blababla unless youre 100% confirmed about your belief and afterlife (prove it because ive got lots of questions still).
amertpunya (18 hours ago) Show Hide
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3. for me, it doesnt really matter. as long as im not disturbing others and respect their rights, so then i have nothing to scared. and i prefer tolerance to all believer because you guys have your choice. islam and christian and other religions dont teach their believer to disrespect others religion as well. So do the atheists.
amertpunya (18 hours ago) Show Hide
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2. none of us gonna say that they're dumb, cheated or let others condemned our belief. unless you want people to laugh at you. stop arguing, and start working. lots of thing need to be done. all of you saying the right thing. i mean the right things for each. for each belief.
amertpunya (18 hours ago) Show Hide
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ive something to say

1. 1.everyone will protect their religion because all of us believe in something that we think its true, even we dont really know the consequence of the death(prove it if you 100% sure about it) unless we have 2 chances to live(how do we know that if we still writing this shit? lol).
minkomadness (19 hours ago) Show Hide
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what if islam is wrong? the fact is, there are christians, hindus, and hell, voodooists (sp?) who have exponentially more faith in their respective gods than you have in muhammad, or allah. not to downplay your faith at all, you seem to have more faith than (i daresay) most christians i've known. christians have just as much evidence that their savior is the true god, as you do that allah is. if you're wrong, every time you convert a member of another religion, you may be damning them to hell.
minkomadness (19 hours ago) Show Hide
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just because im athiest, it doesnt mean i lack a concept of moral vs immoral. i don't murder because murder is wrong. i don't steal because stealing is wrong.

religious people think that god is the only source of morals. i believe that we as people are born, as social creatures, with the natural knowledge that doing wrong against your fellow man brings down brings harm to the entire community.

i don't need a god to explain to me that lying is wrong.

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