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Well now think..that was moving along Django..but should be caring Pylon and Turbogear facility too for being error proof programmer. thank's for talk
Mark is the man to listen to. Python lags behind PHP in web stuff, but not forever. The Python community of web framework developers is doing the right thing by tolerating and even encouraging different approaches.
As I mentioned after my talk on PyCon it's great to see that Turbogears have learnt the lessons of Zope, and sad to see that Django hasn't. There are some more minor mistakes they are redoing as well. I'd link to my blog posts about this, but it doesn't seem to work YouTube. :)
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thank's for talk
I actually don't hate on zope. I think Zope has learned the lesions of Zope2 and I want the rest of us to learn those lesions too. ;)