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January 5th, 2003 at Islamic Institute of New York.
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January 5th, 2003 at Islamic Institute of New York.
A historic debate between Hassanain Rajabali [Muslim] and Dan Barker [Atheist].
Moderated by Mohamed Athar Lila.
This is a series of events organized by the Tawheed Institute after the September 11 crisis with the aim to foster better understanding between people of different denominations.
Some Quotes:
"Another argument, against the existence of god of course, is the problem of evil: All you have to do is walk into any children's hospital - and you know there is no god. Children are in pain, they are suffering, their parents are desperately praying for god to protect them." - Dan Barker
"We're relative creatures, and that is how we understand things, and we can never have a conception of something that is bad, until we understand what is good. That reality, that co-existence is necessary in this world. If one wants to say that evil should not exist then the earth should not exist. You and I should not exist, trial should not exist, and exam should not exist. Rather we are in a system where we understand that evil is there." - Hassanain Rajabali
"Yes, I am under trial, if I could have stopped September 11, I would have but "God is not under trial." So it is irrelevent to for Him." - Hassanain Rajabali
"No matter what they [the Atheists] thought of Hassanain's arguments, they all agree that he was pleasant and articulate. He shows a good face of Islam." -Dan Barker, after the debate
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you are a perfect example of peice of shit people in the world and you represent islam may allah and the rest of you crazy fucks be together and rot in the middle east like dogs. Racist peice of garbage asshole. If you want to be with allah so badly go jump off of a building and join him [please.
im not the one following an irrational book... the people that strop themselves with bombs in the name of your peice of garbage god allah are deluded. I see clearly and i think just as clear. So rethink who you tag with the word deluded. Atheists are the least " deluded " people on the planet. Muslims on the other hand like i said strap bombs.. rape children, jump off of buildins hijack planes and crash em.. etc
HOW ABOUT DEBATED WHETHER RELIGION IS A NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE FACTOR IN SOCIETY. Rather than juggle the question of god's existance. I mean come on even if god without a doubt existed we could still not measure or prove his existance. So why try? This is nothing but a philosophical debate. The atheist attempts to show the fruits of god but eventually gets back to the stupid questino of god's existance.
@mushakal how should allah reward him with 24 virgins? hehe cray religious people and their irrational thoughts. This muslim is very articulate and very very smart. But at the same time very blind and uses very poor analogies to prove his point. He is not that great of a person that deserves a reward. He simply made you stupid uneducated idiots feel right about your religion. Great he made you more of a sheep than you deserve to be.
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brainless nigger wanna be
your deluded
Dont shout! Dont scream!
Dont even think
of making a scene
dont blame it on fate
-your miserable state
its never too late
Start picking a date.
Today is a good start
yes be smart
Allah accepts all repentance
Neither, it costs a cent nor a matter of expense
This debate only proved there cannot be a debate. The scientist begs evidence, the theist gives faith and infers based on the unknown.