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condorito29 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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(sigh).
whatever.

i'm sorry that religion in whatever ugly form it took HURT you.
I really am....not that its my fault.


Its a horrible part of being human.
Some feel it more than most.

"My God, my God! Why have you abandoned me?"


Its as human as having eyes and arms, man.
condorito29 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Being horribly hurt and horribly far from God, is what is as human as having arms and eyes.

Thats what I meant.

"My God, my God! Why have you abandoned me?"
errskin (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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the mere fact that i can disobey god proves that he is not god.
condorito29 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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the mere fact that you can disobey god, proves that God has created a FREE being.

FREE to be a fucking IDIOT.



why am I arguing withyou?????
errskin (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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"the universe CANNOT have brought itself into existence?" - but god can, right? the god explanation is immune to the logic that you apply to everything else, that way it all fits together without having any evidence at all.
condorito29 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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God is the uncaused cause.

The source of life and truth itself.
It IS life and truth.

This good and perfect god brought the universe into being out of nothing.


and since we KNOW from science that the universe is FINITE, and had a definite beginning, whatever caused the unverse to happen, must, I repeat MUST, have been metaphysical.

Do you know what that spells?
T....O...U....G....H....S...H. ..I...T.
errskin (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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i dont like people being stupid, thats what i dont like.
condorito29 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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look in the mirror, pal.
errskin (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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thats hilarious, did you stay up all night thinking that gem up? or did you read it in a holy book? was this comment inspired by god? because if it was then i wont take it literally.
condorito29 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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You really expect me to force you to accept that TRUTH is an inherantly METAPHYSICAL reality, which we believe in every friggin' day, and yet which ATHEISTS cannot acount for??

You expect me to force you to accept that wrong and right do NOT exist in an atheist framework?

these are all YOUR fucking problems, my friend, NOT MINE.

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