Chomsky On Obama's Foreign Policy, 1.13.09 (1/2)

ElectricMelon; I'm curious - you seem to be pretty down on the US. What nation or nations do you admire?

Chomsky is amazing. Extremely open. Will talk to anyone at anytime.

Most of the people killed by Norwegians in WWII were from the Soviet Union. The Norwegian Waffen-SS divisions were some of the most feared on the Eastern Front. Certainly they were not terrorists, most of them volunteered because they remembered the Soviet attack on Finnland and hated Communism. They didn't commit any atrocities or anything.

Wow, you gotta be kidding me...You think the last 2 statements are absurd...Fucking Christ, we really are in trouble. This is a man who spent his whole life analyzing history, media, government, & politics. You have one elk video on your profile. Who do you think is gonna be right? Well I can tell you from reading some of the things he wrote, and hearing some of the things he said- he is. America has supported & even created terrorism. It was founded on it for chrissake!

I admit I'm not a professor of history, but at least I know that terrorism existed before the 18th century and that America was founded on the principles of liberty.. I mean Noam Chomsky agrees with me on that, so I think you should cool it..

Founded on the principles of liberty...Riiiight. Who lied to you? We made our open debut by committing mass genocide. Killing Indians. Then British soldiers. One blood bath after the next. 200 years later, we have people like you sugar coating it. Saying it was for liberty, freedom, etc. Bullshit. It was for resources. And all the shit we're in now goes back to 1913 & 1932. America no longer stands for those same principles you think it once stood for. It stands for: Manipulation, Greed, & Power

I generally agree with you, but you need to brush up on history yourself, ElectricMelon.

The USA made its debut killing Indians THEN British soldiers?!? You seem to seriously misunderstand the American Revolution: We didn't fight to gain our independence from the Cherokee Nation. Before we ran off the British, there was no USA.

The founding of America was based on liberty. It was colonists versus their imperial masters. Everything else came after, even Manifest Destiny.

the problem is that the US consistently violates its own constitutional principles of liberty, life, and justice, i.e., the very principles it purports to defend. on this topic, see Howard Zinn's comments on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman.

I agree with that. It's the ideas that I support.