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darkchocolate132 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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but then they could screen. they've actually revamped it to where it follows the new guidelines. theres always a way to stop an offense though, maybe you're right.
troyjgrice (2 months ago) Show Hide
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No its not illegal. NFL only requires 7 men on the line. You can put them anywhere you want. The numbering restrictions will stop you from creating the mismatches though. INeligible linement must be numbered in 50s, 60s, 70s,
CerebralPrince10 (2 months ago) Show Hide
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Exactly, the NFL's restrictions on legal formations makes it so that only a preset five men can go pass the line of scrimmage
trojanhorse3745 (2 months ago) Show Hide
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The A-11 IS illegal. The National Federation of State High School Associations closed the loophole in February. Wikipedia "A-11 offense" if you want to see it for yourself. I played in Iowa and my school used it last year against some of the tougher opponents (we play in the toughest conference of the largest class in the state of Iowa). It is illegal to use, but some coaches are looking for loopholes. again.
troyjgrice (2 months ago) Show Hide
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Anyone who has any depth of understanding about football knows the difference between a "formation" and an "offense". The A11 "formation" is not illegal per se. It's the last second shifting of the EMOL with nebulous jersey numbers that is illegal as it should be.
trojanhorse3745 (2 months ago) Show Hide
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I can tell you right now that I know more about football than you do. But if you want to be a whiney little hair-splitting bitch about it, I welcome that too.
trojanhorse3745 (2 months ago) Show Hide
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Yes, scrimmage kick. I know that the Scrimmage Kick eligibility rule (which HAS been changed, in order to outlaw the A-11 formation) used to allow "covered" players on offense catch passes (I've seen one school that ran a fake punt and threw the ball down field to the long snapper for a first).  I will try to find specific rules citing this, but if I can't, I'm probably just misinterpreting something, haha.
troyjgrice (2 months ago) Show Hide
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There's no reason why a snapper can't receive if he is the end man on the line (EMOL). Polecat offense does this. Neither symmetry nor proximity to the snapper is recquired in any formation- just a min of 7 men on the line. The A11 FORMATION has not been outlawed nor should it be. It's not even "new". Tiger Ellison and BYU used forms of it in 50s and 60s.
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HS rules allow for ALL scrimmage kick players to release to cover after the snap (it's after the kick in NFL). But if you attempt a pass you will have 2 infractions: 1) illegal man downfield, 2) ineligible receiver.
troyjgrice (2 months ago) Show Hide
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True A11 is within the framework of the rules IF only EMOLs go out. That is not the case in this video. A11 uses formation shifts to confuse the defense as to who is eligible causing mimatches which is great! Unfortunately, it confuses weak refs as well since there is no numbering limit on receivers in HS like NFL. (That is why linemen must "check in" on tackle eligible plays, making refs aware.)

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