Michael Horton "What is the Gospel?"

eugene peterson? isnt he the creator of the hellish message "bible"?

Romans 7 is about the current state of struggle that Paul has. It is not about Paul prior to his conversion, nor is it a hypothetical unbeliever. The unrepentant sinner does not "delight in the Law" and so would not have a struggle between the flesh and the spirit. This was laid out in Rom. 1-3. Paul as a Pharisee called himself "faultless" (Phil 3) and would not have had a struggle with sin because he believed he was justified by his keeping the law.

Jesse, concerning original sin, I am curious as to how you see God's words of promise to Noah in Gen. 8: "Never again will I curse the ground because of man, even though every inclination of his heart is evil from childhood." The Hebrew for childhood is Na`uwr, which refers to the time between infancy and adolescence. Do you think God exaggerates the situation? Or do you think that every infant survived the flood because they were innocent? Tough problem requires a tougher savior.

Great points, xxsolascripturaxx. I doubt Jesse will answer.

Are you stating you deny the doctrine of original sin?

Correct, it is a free will choice but we have inherited a sin nature from Adam. A baby is not innocent. Here's why: You don't have to teach a baby or a child to be bad. You have to teach them to be good. I'm right. You're wrong. That was easy.

So when Paul said that we are to confess our sins daily, he meant everyone but JesseMorrell because JesseMorrell doesn't sin, right?

Positionally we are declared righteous (by Christ's work) but in practice, we still sin.

I hope to someday go to a church like that. I'm presently attending a Wesleyan church (because of my new wife) and it's just so appalingly man-centered. Thank God for the White Horse Inn!

Are you saying you don't sin every day in thought word and deed? Finney didn't believe in original sin. And that's just one of his many problems. Do you believe in original sin, Jesse?

Praise God for men like Dr. Horton and the countless others who are dedicated to the clear teaching of God's Word. Soli Deo Gloria

You couldn't be any more wrong. Finney IS the heretic. We need less like him. Today's church in general is a result of Finney and clearly the modern church has a major problem.