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Noam Chomsky On Gaza - 2009.01.13 - MIT (1 of 11)

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hjpschaab (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Yes, zionism is the nationalist movement.of the Jewish people. They have established their ONLY state in their old homeland. The Arabs have 22 states but cannot live with that Jewish state.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Actually, some Israelis can live with a Palestinian state but some can't. You are maybe one of them. The Arabs recognize an Israel that recognizes Palestine per the UN resolution 242 and 338 i.e. to make peace with your Palestinian relatives who converted from Judaism to Islam.
hjpschaab (6 days ago) Show Hide
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Dear Quintus Maximus. I guess most Israelis can live with a Palestinian state (by the way, there are many Palestinian Christians!!!) if that REALLY means the end of the war and hate and terror. In fact, Israel wants nothing more than peace with its neighbour(s). Look at the size of the country!!! And then the size of the Arab world! But will the (Islamic) world really accept Israel? That is still the central question.
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Yes one jewish zionist state. A state that is involved in an illegal military occupation, war crimes, and numerous human rights violations. A state that secretly has nuclear weapons but refuses to sign the NPT. And a state that refuses to accept UN resolutions passed on it. One jewish state indeed.
hjpschaab (6 days ago) Show Hide
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yes, only ONE Jewish state. A state that the perfidious British tried to prevent before, during and after the holocaust, a state that the Arab states and the PLO, Hamas etc. tried to smother in blood in 1948 and many times after. But that awful Jewish state just refuses to die. How dare they defend themselves so well!!!
rencrow (5 days ago) Show Hide
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Illegal military occupation, war crimes, and  human rights violations are not self-defense. It might be in the israeli definition of "self-defense" but trust me it isn't.
hjpschaab (1 week ago) Show Hide
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What is "Palestinian land"? Palestine was the name given by the Romans to the old Land of Israel. The PLO was founded in 1962 to destroy the Zionist State (Israel). That is stil what unites the 22 Arab states: their hate of that one Jewish state.
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The PLO was founded in 1964 actually. Thats 15 years after the independence of Israel. If like you say the PLO was formed to "destroy the zionist state" why didn't they form earlier? Why 15 years later? I'll give you a hint.....PLO stands for the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
hjpschaab (6 days ago) Show Hide
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OK Rencrow...it was 1964. The PLO was formed to destroy Israel, not because I say so, but because THEY said (and still say) so. And about their so-called "liberation of Palestine": there was never a Palestinian state or people. They even refused that name: they considered themselves part of the great Arab nation. Btw, the Arabs refused to share the land in 1947.
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You seem to have blithely forgotten that before 1949 there was no Israel. It was called Palestine. When a group of foreign immigrants gang up and steal land from the indigenous population then don't be surprised to see resistance.

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