I'm done explaining this. From now on, every theist who claims there is no logical reason for atheists to have absolute morals will be pointed here. If you have been pointed here, you have succeede...
I'm done explaining this. From now on, every theist who claims there is no logical reason for atheists to have absolute morals will be pointed here. If you have been pointed here, you have succeeded in annoying me.
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Good Atheists go to hell and burn for eternity and BAD Christians go to heaven, Religion impedes one's ability to empathize and without empathy morality exists only by threat, Christianity provides that threat. A dog that doesn't bite, only because it will get beaten, is not a good dog. Does this mean that Christianity has a lot of bad dogs. Atheists are good for the sake of being good. Doen't that make them better?
Mathew 7:12: "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Jesus)
Amazing that through science, you came to the same conclusion that Jesus was preaching then. There are a lot more amazing connections that I would be willing to share between Science and Christianity.
and what is odd is that we have an extreme need that there be an objective purpose, that our reasons for behaving morally extend to something other than survival
He's explained why we naturally have morals. I've heard this before.
I'd like to hear more discussion about why we should continue to be moral, though.
It seems like it all leads down to opinions, like the one that our species should be continued, becuase we feel like it should, and for no further reason.
If physical reality is all which exists, there are no objective moral values. We have selfish reasons to behave morally, but don't claim that they're objectively good when they're not.
You're right, there no objective reasons to be moral. I am good to people around me because I want others to treat me right and because it feels too. I don't need more reason than that.
While it illustrates very well the idea of a poor jump in reasoning, the "and" in the first sentence of my first post should read as "to". This should clear matters up.
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This isn't in God's salvation plan.
Religion impedes one's ability to empathize and without empathy morality exists only by threat, Christianity provides that threat.
A dog that doesn't bite, only because it will get beaten, is not a good dog.
Does this mean that Christianity has a lot of bad dogs.
Atheists are good for the sake of being good. Doen't that make them better?
Mathew 7:12: "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Jesus)
Amazing that through science, you came to the same conclusion that Jesus was preaching then. There are a lot more amazing connections that I would be willing to share between Science and Christianity.
I'd like to hear more discussion about why we should continue to be moral, though.
It seems like it all leads down to opinions, like the one that our species should be continued, becuase we feel like it should, and for no further reason.
If physical reality is all which exists, there are no objective moral values. We have selfish reasons to behave morally, but don't claim that they're objectively good when they're not.
Atheist answer: Because the water's been heated to 100 degrees centigrade resulting in a change in state from liquid to gas.
Christian answer: Because I want to have some tea.
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