David Cameron meets Helen Newlove

not bad for a man who get s a £1,000 a mounth from the tax payer to pay his council tax and £800 a mounth to pay his morgage from the tax payer ah poor we sole

we are trying to do more as a country and as a community, like cameron said, it's the goverment who are doing fuck all, don't blame us david please

Cameron is trying to score political points. There was a lot of cars thefts in the early 1990's where I live, and also young gangs causing mayhem and trouble on the streets in the mid 1990's. Who were in power then? The Conservatives. One day Cameron says "Hug an hoodie" and the next he is proposing to be tough on crime. Same as what Blair said in 1993, Tough on Crime, tough on the causes of crime. I thought Straw was arrogant and out of touch though with what he said.

Its important to recognise young people often hate crime and are the victims of crime too. Im 23 and gangs make me sick. So do yobs. Our criminal justice system remains extremely pro-criminal. I am not in the flogging-hanging brigade and I hate mob justice, what we need in Britain is real justice. Mr Cameron has done the right thing taking time to listen to someone like Helen Newlove rather than yet another bleeding heart group like Asbo Concern, hellbent on helping criminals avoid punishment.

Courageous woman

The evil scumbags who viciously killed Mr Newlove should die in prison. But as whole life tariffs are barely used, they probably won't. There is far too much time given to bleeding heart pro- criminal pressure groups like The Howard League for Penal Reform and Asbo Concern and not enough given to groups like the Victims of Crime Trust. I am also sick of excuses being made for young offenders and the notion that young people can't also be enraged by yobs. The issue is not poverty. Its attitude.

100% agree.

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i agree with points 1 to 10, i blame these do gooders that's why the system is fucked up. Mr Goverment why don't you try watching americas toughest prisions, ie bootcamp etc on there. There ain't no psp's where them guys are in the u.s.a. All in all scum bags are weak. But they can lock u up for not paying yer council tax, what the fuck is going on. Yours truly from warrington..

I cannot trust Mr Cameron on crime. He is soft on yobs one day; tough on them the next.