Just a Block of Wood

I find it amazing that without even a word spoken in this video, people understand that this is a message about life. Remarkable as well considering that the unborn can't speak, either. May God forgive us for what we as a world have done to so many children.

shackleton12 you have issues. All life is precious where ever it is. I personally think it is a great sculpture.

I believe in womens rights to choice. I wouldn't take it upon myself to dictate to somebody else how they should feel about their potential baby, and I don't expect the state to impose that kind of value judgment on me.
This video is essentially campaigning for the removal of a freedom - the freedom to make your own moral judgments, to take responsibility for your own actions, and to make your own decisions.

So you think you make moral judgments for yourself? When you go to a shop and buy something do you make that choice in isolation of the state or do you do that with the knowledge that the state is ensuring that the company you buy from will not put led in your potato? Alos, by the way... The woman had a choice... she could have asked her man to use a condom. See I also believe in a womans right to chose... I don't think the vid. is "essentially" anything you call it.

Shackleton12: this is what the website people want: "Lowering of the twenty-four week upper limit for abortion for social reasons as a result of much clearer evidence now available that a child born at or before 24 weeks has a good chance of survival." You know why this is logical? I think I read somepalce that the european standard is 13 weeks not 24 weeks...
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First it's lowered, then it's banned. I'm going to go all hard line on this, and stick to my point. This kind of thing is between the doctor, the woman and the fetus. The state shouldn't come into this at any stage.

You are right to say that the fetus comes into the equation about between whom the decision is made, but since the fetus has no voice and because the woman and doctor do not operate in a societal vacuum the state can and should play a role in the protection of those who cannot be protected. Ideally of course I would like it if the family and the doctor would make it easy for the woman not to have to consider abortion. But when that responsibility is abdicated the state needs to intervene.

The state has to intervene on something so undecided and divisive as when a baby is born? There is no consensus on this issue, so for the state to enforce christian ideas about conception is simply wrong.
If there is no clear consensus on an issue, you cannot legislate without being anti-democratic and anti-freedom. The idea of when a person is a person is hotly debated - are they a person when they an egg? At the moment of conception? When the embryo starts looking a little like a baby? Birth?

I am against abortion but I am also for the right for choice. But people need to make informed decisions. They have the right to information so their decisions can be informed. This video is not 'campaigning for the removal of a freedom', but presenting one side of the argument.

Everybody is against abortion. I mean, I've yet to meet somebody who will say 'Hey guys, let's kill babies'. The issue isn't about whether abortion is bad - of course abortion is awful. The issue is about whether the choice is the mother's, or the state's. Remember that the state is a group of bored bureaucrats and dishonest politicians. Would you trust such a fundamental moral choice in the hands of these men, or would you trust a mother to make the right choice about her own child?