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Wow SG55OVCam (I mean reggie)! You have no life at all do you. You looking up every comment I ever made so you can stalk me and respond to me? Really?
i enjoy going to baseball games quite a bit. i eat a lot of hotdogs and drink plenty of beers. the thing is, the combination of those two things really make me gassy. it's not all bad though. there's something about leaning forward and farting into that crack in the seat down there. when i hear the people behind me ask one another, "what the hell is that smell?" I find it deeply satisfying.
"He was FUCKING BEGGING" And yet he was still resisting arrest.
Is begging a reason not to arrest someone? What about a DUI driver begging the cops not to arrest him? How about a rapist caught in the act? When did "begging" become "license to resist arrest."
"Hitting him with a taser was perfectly legitimate in that circumstance." << fixed it for you.
demonhoopa - You use "electrocution" because it is an emotionally charged term chosen to make people panic. Are you a liar, or just ignorant?
"You know damn well what I meant" I am not a mind-reader. Are you? Does the TV answer you when you talk to it? Is your dog telling you to do terrible things?
"The point was, there was no need for it." The point is that the police policy allowed them to use it. And they did.
And demonhoopa if you are going to use words like "electrocution" you should know what they mean.
Electrocution = DEATH by electric shock. So your statement is ignorant... stupid in fact.
The taser is safer than the other means of submission available to the police. Of course if you anti-taser cultists would prefer we could return to the traditional methods. Batons, tear gas, pepper spray, dogs, rubber bullets, beanbag guns, stingballs, stun grenades, simple physical domination.
Could you be anymore disingenuous? You know damn well what I meant and nit picking the Websters definition of electrocution does not change what you know I was getting at.
And enough with the intellectual dishonesty about the safety of the taser. The point was, there was no need for it. The guy was very obviously scared and NO THREAT TO ANYONE. He was FUCKING BEGGING for chrissakes. Hitting him with a taser was gratuitous and cowardly. The "safety" (or not) is a non point for me.
The discussion of tasers is irrelevant to the issue. Meyer violated the rules of the forums & was ejected. He resisted & created this confrontation by resisting arrest.
His free speech rights were not violated. His rights don't supersede the rights of others. When he violated the rules of the forums and refused to leave & started disrupting the forums he violated the rights of everyone else there.
They were justified in removing him & he had no right to be heard or hear Kerry's answer.
demonhoopa - Take it up with reggieworth. He is the one who keeps saying things like "no-one is disputing the organizer's right to eject him" immediately followed by "ejecting violated his rights to free speech."
Of COURSE it could have been handled better. You throw him out the first time he breaks the rules. You manhandle him if you have to, but you do it in no uncertain terms.
That having been said. The taser was used in a perfectly legitimate and legal way.
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ROFLOL!
Is begging a reason not to arrest someone? What about a DUI driver begging the cops not to arrest him? How about a rapist caught in the act? When did "begging" become "license to resist arrest."
"Hitting him with a taser was perfectly legitimate in that circumstance." << fixed it for you.
"You know damn well what I meant" I am not a mind-reader. Are you? Does the TV answer you when you talk to it? Is your dog telling you to do terrible things?
"The point was, there was no need for it." The point is that the police policy allowed them to use it. And they did.
Electrocution = DEATH by electric shock. So your statement is ignorant... stupid in fact.
The taser is safer than the other means of submission available to the police. Of course if you anti-taser cultists would prefer we could return to the traditional methods. Batons, tear gas, pepper spray, dogs, rubber bullets, beanbag guns, stingballs, stun grenades, simple physical domination.
And enough with the intellectual dishonesty about the safety of the taser. The point was, there was no need for it. The guy was very obviously scared and NO THREAT TO ANYONE. He was FUCKING BEGGING for chrissakes. Hitting him with a taser was gratuitous and cowardly. The "safety" (or not) is a non point for me.
His free speech rights were not violated. His rights don't supersede the rights of others. When he violated the rules of the forums and refused to leave & started disrupting the forums he violated the rights of everyone else there.
They were justified in removing him & he had no right to be heard or hear Kerry's answer.
Of COURSE it could have been handled better. You throw him out the first time he breaks the rules. You manhandle him if you have to, but you do it in no uncertain terms.
That having been said. The taser was used in a perfectly legitimate and legal way.