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The Evolution of the Flagellum

BEHE CONCEDES IC SYSTEMS CAN EVOLVE Here I present a theory first published in 2003 by Nicholas Matzke. For more details one can view his work at http://www.talkdesign.org/f... This theory is d...  
 
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bencubed (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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This evolutionary theory is full of logic and reason.

The creationists are going to hate it.
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JohnLittle112993 (6 hours ago) Show Hide
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So what evidence is supporting the idea that this actually happened?
Zyxro (5 days ago) Show Hide
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Great video. Though I am left wondering what (more specifically) is the Tol-Pal system.
ExtantFrodo (5 days ago) Show Hide
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tell me, do your calculations include all functionally equivalent variants of your 100 amino acid sequence?
kusalaviro (6 days ago) Show Hide
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So you admit there's a chance. Fantastic, that's all we need. As long as the chance is not zero...
CodeSculptor (6 days ago) Show Hide
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Wow, so, in other words, you didn't read the paper.
And you don't understand valence and polarity, or you'd know the chances are actually much higher. Nice try though.
nottebaccio (6 days ago) Show Hide
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I understand valence and polarity well enough to know that they could be used by an intelligence but can not substitute for intelligence. Are you aware of the incredible amount of information needed for the simplest form of life. There is also the tiny little problem that DNA relies proteins for its production, and proteins rely on DNA for their production. Which came first, one must already be in existence for the other to be made. Nice try.
CodeSculptor (6 days ago) Show Hide
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Ahh.. who said DNA was in the first life-forms? Most scientists (in the field) think RNA came first.
So the probability thing is out the window. The odds of amino acids combining to form a protein. So, the odds of a 400 peptide (amino-acid) sequence long protein forming are about one in (assuming we have all the amino acids avail) 3000 (ish). Wow, that's really unlikely, dunno how that could ever work out.
nottebaccio (5 days ago) Show Hide
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If oversimplification is your comfort zone go for it. Keep the faith, you need it.
CodeSculptor (5 days ago) Show Hide
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That's ok Notte, when you can't come back with proof, resort to the pithy and baseless.
Extant, I know that my calculation did not include functional equivalents.. partly because it was way easier to do a hand-cranked calc and cross-check it with current papers and second, cause I have no clue how to algebraically formulate such and equation-set.
I supposed it could be done with horse-power via some bioinformatics algorithms (maybe?). That's a wicked challenge though.

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