Thomas Seymour and Elizabeth Tudor

Oh and I'd take Weir over Starkey when it comes to British Tudor history.

Starkey is a complete bore.

To Gwyn142:

I believe that Dudley was weak and stupid in his ambitions because he did not have enough sense to get out of his own way and often times caused Elizabeth a great deal of personal and professional pain with his actions. As for loving her, I'm sure he did and she loved him as well, but he lacked discipline and common sense, in my opinion and Elizabeth was wise not to make him (or any man) her consort...

Let me add in my comment to Gwyn142 that I do not appreciate my opinions being referred to as stupid. Can people not disagree without throwing around school yard insults like five year olds these days? I have a right to say what I please, within reason, as do you and anyone else. I try to make discussions pleasant, even engaging, so please show me some respect and I will show the same...

if i was Elizabeth I sister i would have done everything to protect her and keep her safe in my arms from everyone who tried to do harm to her..then i would have those hanged, drawn, and quartered..and have them remember their alliegiance to Elizabeth I.

Mary should have taken her head off. Elizabeth isn't admirable at all. She went to mass all during Mary's reign just to save her own neck. She was not willing to die for her religion, that's for damn sure. Constantly throwing herself at Mary's feet, sobbing big dramatic tears....give me a break.

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No. She was shrewd, tactical and clever. She knew what she was doing and she also knew what she needed to do to survive. Her ambition was to become Queen. Dying for her religion isn't gonna help is it. To do so seems rather stupid really. Elizabeth was thinking and planning the future. Furthermost she ruled with her head and not with her heart.

It's human nature to do what's neccessary to survive..Who's to say you wouldn't do the same in her position..

Don't say you know how you'd react, because you will most likley never be threatend with exectuion by your half sister.

"Little King Edward the 6th had stepped into his father's shoes, but they were several sizes too big for him."

Yeah. Imagine if he stepped into his father's clothes. :-D

women were blamed for all of men's evils back then.

For a man who was supposed to be handsome and sexually appealing, this Thomas Seymour was pretty creepy looking.