A Conservative's Critique of U.S. Foreign Policy Under Bush

This guy teaches at Haravard?

Wait! All you conservowhackos! I thought academia is full of liberal communist radicals!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Fucking idiots.

Right... So according to you, the WORLD isn't able to form opinions of American incompetence, arrogance and stupidity, all by themselves.... You have obviously never been out of your little suburban bubble... Do us all a favor, and stay there.

No, I just said the "world" as we are referring to here [which is really just a certain type of person whose life has very little meaning if they aren't feigning outrage over some aspect of US policy] forms their opinions based on slanted media coverage of the US and then we wonder why certain people "hate" us. Also, and I'm not even sure WHY you brought this up, I've studied in Europe and live in DC- so my "bubble" may be much bigger than your "reality."

Well then you obviously know that anti-Americanism is not a result of the American media that most people in the world do NOT even watch, or have access to.

Imagine then, that in the larger "world" (those who don't approve of American policies) people who do not live to "feign outrage" but actually have hostility for America because their countries are destroyed by American sponsorship of dictators (Chile, Guatemala, Egypt), or are directly killed by our military (Iraq, Afghanistan).

I never referred to just "American" media. Aside from that - have you ever viewed CNN International or the BBC consistently? They put Rupert Murdoch to shame in editorials masquerading as news. The US is blamed when we tacitly support rightist dictators on the logic that the alternative is worse [Pinochet, Franco, Mubarak] and we're blamed when we oppose dictators because THAT"S IMPERIALIST [Saddam, Milosevic, Ahmadenijad]! It's heads you win, tails we lose. The "world" ought to grow up.

Also, you're faux, wide-eyed innocent invocation of people "directly killed by our military." You think this happens in a vacuum? What love have you, o concerned citizen of the world, for the Taliban govt in Afghanistan or Ba'athists in Iraq? Indeed, the WHOLE REASON we are in the midst of messy counter-insurgencies in those countries is because we removed the regimes with kid gloves because we were so concerned with NOT taking innocent life that we left alive many people hostile to us.

Completely separate point and you know it. And I ain't no "citizen of the world" - I'm an American pal, more than you will ever be.

I believe in both interventions - and I've got friends there right now - but to say that it doesn't create anti-Americanism is fucking stupid.

You started by saying that the American media is responsible for spreading anti-Americanism... I've made the case that it isn't so. Finish your point kid, or fuck off back to your bubble...

Its impossible to prove that youre more American than I. If youre a veteran then you CAN say youve contributed more to our freedom than I have. If you merely have friends in the military than that doesnt mean much for you. I can make that claim too. I would have to say that, in order to kill your enemies, you have to risk "anti-Americanism." I'm referring here to "world" anti-Americanism. Not incurring collateral damage in Iraq or Afghanistan- thats understandable but also unavoidable.

Also, I never said JUST the American media spreads this vile tripe- it's worldwide. Sometimes they're state controlled media doing what they're told, sometimes it's the BBC that does it out of ideological dedication. I referred to the American media "class" but then made myself clearer in subsequent postings. You certainly haven't made your case at all and you've resorted to swearing at me and referring to this imaginary "bubble." What IS it with that nonsensical reference?

if we leave they'll have a mega war? so we stay for ever? till every american soldier is dead and every american dollar is spent?
i dont think alqaeda would exsit in iraq if the states leave, and if they do let the people is iraq get rid of them... bring our troops back and lets fix our health care and education instead of invading countries for oil and arm deals