There's always a police (RIOT) in patriot act.

I think you saw were I called they cowards. But i did side with someone(just for that one comment), But I'm back now. I say we send 200.000 more and get the shit over with. And any country helping these terrorist. Bomb them back to the stone age. oh and make sure all these protesters are in the middle of it so they can report how it's don't. but press badges mean nothing there neither.

"Our troops died for nothing"? You mean your President killed those troops for nothing, and yes, that's accurate.

"Just"? You make it sound like I want them out tomarrow. Haven't we been training the Iraqi army for years now, haven't the republicans been saying that the surge has worked?  Then why can't we leave?

"country falls back into chaos... our troops died for nothing". We made sure there was no threat of WMD's, most Iraqis hate Al'Qaeda, the Iraqis held an election, they have a surplus of $79mil... what's failed about that? Would you rather have more and more soldiers killed then?

The failure part will come when Iraqi insurgents (not Al Qaeda) retake parts of the country after we pull everyone out. Deja vu Vietnam. Yes a lot of Iraqis hate Al Qaeda, but some of them hate Americans more.


The reality is we already have lots of soldiers killed. So the question really is are we going to pull out to avoid further losses and possibly fail our mission, or weather more losses but possibly achieve our objective?

Tough decision.

Tough decision yes, but one that we really have no say in. The UN mandate of American occupation is almost up, when it is we'll be asked to leave. Iraq is a sovereign nation, if they don't want us there then we have no right to be there.

Achieve our objective? Excuse me but I don't buy that crap any more. That goal post has been moved countless times since the beginning of the war.

Besides all that, many Iraq vets are speaking out against the war. More than 8000 AWOL Iraq vets, etc.