Cosmology Quest 2 - Plasma Cosmology - Part 3 of 5

faith....blind religous faith.

It's not wrong. It's common knowledge. In the Principia Mathematica he literally says that god controls the orbits of planets and that it can't be explained.

"The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets could proceed only from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent, powerful Being."

Anyway, how is this a straw man? It's your red herring. Only thing Newton has to do with cosmology is that one could have derived the Friedman equations from them directly.

He only recognized his impotence. This doesn't mean he didn't use the extent of his ability.

P: "Without dark matter, why does the earth not fall into the sun?"

B: "Before anyone mentioned dark matter, Newton explained planetary motion."

Yes, he didn't completely explain it, but he did explain the basics (orbits: the reason why the earth doesn't fall into the sun). If you're thinking of gravitational radiation, the energy is almost too small to detect at our tech level.

You aren't making any sense. First off, gravitational radiation is still merely a prediction.

Secondly, without dark matter gravity has to be different. It has to be somehow stronger to keep galaxies together. And if gravity is stronger the earth will fall into the sun.

Just trying to put it into laymen terms so you can understand.

Specify. What have I said that doesn't make sense?

You claimed the topic was my red herring, but I quoted you as the initiator.

Gravity waves have not been directly measured, but their effects have. Look up Joseph Taylor and Russel Hulse. They measured and quantitatively confirmed the predicted period shift of pulses from neutron star pairs over time. This prediction was made by Einstein. His basis: gravitational radiation. Just as accelerating charges radiate, so do accelerating masses.

Ooh wow. So you support plasma universe, but you gladly accept gravitational waves?

And no, you can't adjust the gravitation equations to account for everything observed.

If by 'invisible space dust' you mean ordinary matter, that's not possible. Because it would block some kinds of radiation but not all. Also, it's insane amounts of dust needed. If there is so much dust it would gravitate together.

Only way it works is to introduce dark matter, which also explains a lot of other stuff.

I don't support the plasma universe theory. I only agree that dark matter is bullshit. Gravitational waves are based on general relativity. Hell, you don't really need GR.

Of course you can't. It would be absurd... like introducing new kinds of matter or something.

I don't mean "ordinary." It's special... invisible or black or whatever. Then again, there has to be more of it than all the matter we see, so perhaps that would make it more ordinary and would make our matter extraordinary.

What if electromagnetic interaction of plasma over vast distances accounted for the shape of galaxies? Then we wouldn't need to invent 'dark matter' to support the failed cosmic gravitation model. But I can't prove that dark matter doesn't exist so it must exist along with garden gnomes.

How can you believe in gravitational waves and not in dark matter? Dark matter has been observed and fits the theoretical models. Gravitational waves are merely predicted. It wouldn't make sense if we don't find them. But compared to dark matter, it's still a huge difference. The one is still fictional. The other is observed.

It's not that gravitational waves do a lot anyway. Dark matter caused the formations of galaxies and represents 30% of the energy density.

Without dark matter, the shape of the gravitational potential could be modified to account for those distant bodies. This would have the same effect as introducing a uniform distribution (or even randomly distributed pockets) of invisible space dust. This is what makes dark matter Ptolemaic.