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Hell Greater Than Redemption?
Hell Greater Than Redemption?
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8 months ago
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
@xWhiteLightning The mechanism of salvation is still Jesus (for all), universalists arent pluralists. // Another assumption - that you believe Mark 16:16 is referring to the future (ie when we die). It's referring to Now. Look at the Jews (our roots), they arent caught up with heaven/hell future...
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8 months ago
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
@xWhiteLightning The mechanism of salvation is still Jesus (for all), universalists arent pluralistics.
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8 months ago
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
@xWhiteLightning Assumption. Dont equate the lake of fire with hell. 2 seperate terms.
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8 months ago
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
i really like your reflections and style, that comes from the heart... and Gladitator music in the background, love that track, very moving
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tintinworld
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8 months ago
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
i really like your reflections and style, that comes from the heart... and Gladitator music in the background, love that track, very moving
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8 months ago
God Loses And Satan Wins! Pro Universalist Video
If modern theology is correct , then God loses as Satan outsmarts and overpowers God. God's loving purpose for mankind is not realized as Satan thw...
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
assumption alert! I've assumed for Rev 21, lake of fire = hell, but why? especially as hell (gehenna) goes into the lake of fire to be destroyed... comments?
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
@snowshop thanks bob, it really does help. particularly listening to your thoughts on corrie ten boom, i am moved by it
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
@snowshop I follow my heart - my intuition & there's something about the traditional hell view doesnt fit inside, gut reaction, but I've never had a scripture to back it up, so I have unwillingly believed in it. // Now there's a new understanding & I'm keen to learn & test it! // Ps 30:5, 103:9 -...
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
@snowshop /// Thanks for your insight, I do have a judgement. I am ok with god creating hell... but not ok with god creating a certain version of hell that is "forver" and "tormenting".
My judgement is that God is 2-faced (which is a projection of the splits in my soul) & my feeling about this ...
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
To expose my heart - I am unsure if I have ever met someone who in their heart believes in a forever torture punishment hell (and for most of the human race). By "belief" i mean, it naturally fuels action and shapes the person continually... Wouldn't believing this create a mental illness? Person...
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
I want to add, I do believe in Sin - making wrong moral choices. It's something that I do and am doing.
But, for this, I'll experience being tortured?!
And it goes on forever?!
And the same god that sent jesus to die for the world is actively involved?!
It's not a paradox of gods love/justice...
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tintinworld
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
@truth4U2C Maybe we have different definitions for words, but I see my conscience is a wholey unreliable source or guage. It's programmed with strange guilts and irrational fears - see child development biology // I think an unhealthy conscience might end up with a forever hell doctrine, as it wo...
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tintinworld
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
@truth4U2C "princible of punishment" - punishment is the hard corrective judgement of a father // (second part) Yes. A forever hell is unjust, and more - it's evil. It makes no sense of the bible as a whole. It doesnt fit my experience of god. It doesnt fit my experinece of the goodness I see in ...
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8 months ago
Theological Review of Rob Bell's "Love Wins"
full review found on www.prchdaword.wordpress.com
@prchdaword If the "forever" view of hell's heart was exposed, what would it contain?
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tintinworld
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8 months ago
Theological Review of Rob Bell's "Love Wins"
full review found on www.prchdaword.wordpress.com
@prchdaword It seems that you have a naturalised filter of calvinism in your critique. Are you a calvinist? Whilst I ask, I am not intending to label you, rather raise a question for your self-awareness of the way you set up an argument.
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8 months ago
Theological Review of Rob Bell's "Love Wins"
full review found on www.prchdaword.wordpress.com
So you judge Rob as "wrong" on the basis he isnt a Calvinist? Seems like what you're saying, please correct. // I like an open theists question, "yes god is sovereign, but what type of sovereignty does he have?" // All the OMNI's are greek ideas, not hebrew ideas // Traditional evangelical view o...
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tintinworld
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8 months ago
Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
Maybe we've different definitions for words. I see my conscience is a wholey unreliable source or guage. It's programmed with strange guilts and irrational fears - see child development biology // I think an unhealthy conscience might end up with a forever hell doctrine, as it would connect with ...
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Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
thanks for asking snowshop, I have an understanding of post-modernism, and yes, I see the fit. // Culture does influence our assumptions we bring into reading the bible, for good and for worse. // Do you also see a Dark Ages (pre-modernity), Dualism (Decartes) and a Plato influence on a forever p...
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Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
thanks snowshop, Matthew scripture - if "eternal" doesnt mean "forever" and if "fire" is godly process (purification and transformation - see below), then you have a different take on this verse. I read it as a seperation, but a forever painful experience, no.
Re "Fire" - the H.S comes in fire, w...
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Love Wins - Rob Bell Video & Book Review
Finally! all the confusion about Rob Bell can be put to rest, Yes he is a Christian Univesalist...So be warned that what he teaches is not from Go...
assumption alert "truth4u2c" - eternal being = eternal punishment - why link these 2?
also, eternal is now only. there's no such thing as time outside the now moment to experience, that's only memory or an intellectual concept of future.
He denies teaching universalism
I dont think he's teachin...
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Love Falls Short in Rob Bell's Love Wins and The Shack by Paul Young
Rob Bell, pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church and author of Love Wins and William P. Young, author of The Shack have been the center of attention on t...
to add, this Love Wins message is only the second time in the last decade there's been an explosion of joy and a YES!!! the last one was from Clark's book, I mention below. I am excited about this redefinition of hell.... very excited... makes me believe that god really is good, which is a huge r...
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Love Falls Short in Rob Bell's Love Wins and The Shack by Paul Young
Rob Bell, pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church and author of Love Wins and William P. Young, author of The Shack have been the center of attention on t...
God is Soverign, but what kind of soverignty does he have - cause there are many types of soverignty - and accordingly different ways to define this word. Clark Pinnock has some helpful ideas on this, it's called the openness of god. I recommend it. Thanks for your work.
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8 months ago
10 Reasons Why "Hell" is false pt 1
Note that what I mean by "hell" is the modern evangelical conception of a customized torture chamber where those who die without accepting Christ a...
I have an idea for you, for a video. 10 made-up beliefs that "Traditional Hell" doctrine use to support their beliefs.
(1) The catchphrase "sin against an eternal being requires eternal punishment" - Biblical?
(2) The children-opt-out idea, "It's only after you reach the age of 7 years, that a ...
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8 months ago
I think this video is very good, to the extent can I encourage you to re-record with better sound.
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Is Hell really in the Bible??
What does the Bible really say about hell. Please Christians, try to understand with an open mind and heart. For some atheists, maybe this will ch...
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8 months ago
Love Wins But Not From Rob Bell's Critics
Comments regarding Rob Bell's Book "Love Wins" and observations about his critics.
This is a great article on what Universalism isnt - "Bell's Hells: seven myths about Universalism." by Robin Parry, google it!
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Response to Love Wins and Hope Beyond Hell
Don't you think when God says "depart from I never knew you"... that he might be talking to people who were only trying to escape hell? If you just...
Cool!
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8 months ago
Why "Love Wins" by Rob Bell is NOT Universalism
Former missionary, Gerry Beaucheman author of "Hope Beyond Hell", explains: Why "Love Wins" by Rob Bell is NOT Unive...
this is superb!! thank you for taking the time to release this video, James
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LOVE WINS - Rob Bell
TRAILER for Rob Bell's controversial book, Love Wins: Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived.
It's amazing how no one has read ...
@JesseGrieshaber - I cant see how reading Rev 22:11 leads to the comment "so there will be no second chance" - other than you already have a set of assumptions you're working with before you read this verse.
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LOVE WINS - Rob Bell
TRAILER for Rob Bell's controversial book, Love Wins: Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived.
It's amazing how no one has read ...
logic kills god?
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LOVE WINS - Rob Bell
TRAILER for Rob Bell's controversial book, Love Wins: Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived.
It's amazing how no one has read ...
spot on, "What we believe about heaven and hell is important cause it exposes what we believe about the nature of god" - Robs view is the first view i've heard that reconcilled this.... i'm a grateful for your insight, thank you
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Dear Rob Bell
Video response to Rob Bell's video "Love Wins".
Jesus hardly ever gives a straight reply in the gospels.
Jesus often asks questions to questions - loads of examples.
Post-Modern - doesnt mean truth cant be known, rather truth can only be subjectively appropriated ie objective truth is irrelevant, except for being a signpost (can point you in ...
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Rob Bell Love Wins (my thoughts)
My thoughts on Rob Bell's new book that is coming out...
redefine the words - what if "hell" is a purging, not a punishment?
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Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
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tintinworld said:
@ronathanedwards "You error again" and "and do scholarly work" - Let your persuasive points do the talking, these comments suggest to the reader you are not confident in your arguments.
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
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tintinworld said:
@ronathanedwards Have you listened to any of Greg's ideas, or read much of his work?
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
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tintinworld said:
@ronathanedwards There is No Difference. To me it reads as if there is a difference. The Voilent God (Jesus) of the OT seems not to be the dont-take-up-arms / go-to-the-cross God (Jesus) of the NT.
Psalm 137:9 = Child Abuse
So it must be my intrepretation that is incomplete... Am looking for mo...
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
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@ronathanedwards So, it's theorticial for you, as you have answered using concepts rather than first person experience. I was & am interested in hearing your heart.
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
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tintinworld said:
This bible teacher, Greg Boyd, is trying to reconcile the OT God of Violence with the revelation of Jesus and his teachings on Non-Violence. I find some of Greg's ideas helpful, this is one of his blog entries - gregboyd.org/blog/jesus-repudiation-of-old-testament-violence // let me know if you h...
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
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tintinworld said:
@ronathanedwards Hi, from reading the last 10 pages of posts between you and @Lightmane321 / @phillip78, I feel sad that you express a particularly low view of the goodness of people.
Is this theoritical, or do you distrust people's goodness?
Does this belief support you?
Ignore my questions ...
Can GOD Save ALL Men From HELL?
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning, great is your faithfulness." Lamentatio...
1,672 views
tintinworld said:
@Lightmane321 have you come across Clark Pinnocks work - the openness of god. Roger Forster had a conference on this about 10 years ago, the tapes of this are amazing... I think you'll love it, if you havent come across it. It talks about Calvanism and Arminianism, and presents an alternative pos...
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