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I am an intelligent and rational-thinking person, who is amazed by how many suckers Masaaki Hatsumi has managed to rope-in to his global money-making scheme. I used to do Bujinkan, but then I woke up. The Bujinkan is said to be made-up of nine schools (three ninja, two super-deadly Chinese-derived systems and four battle-tested Samurai Ryu-ha). YET, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF FOR MOST OF THESE SCHOOLS EXISTING BEFORE TAKAMATSU. So, why the hell do Bujinkan practitioners believe Hatsumi's stories? He won't even allow his scrolls to be independently authenticated!!!

Because I have been asked why I did Bujinkan for ten years about fifty times, below is reply I recently gave; everyone who's interested can read it and hopefully see where I'm coming from.

I'M NOT PROUD OF MY BUJINKAN PAST. I WAS DELUDED, AND SO IS ANYONE ELSE WHO TRAINS IN HATSUMI'S SCAM OF A SO-CALLED MARTIAL ART.

When I started training in the Bujinkan, I was young and impressionable. I was ignorant about real self defence. All the THEORIES of Bujinkan Ninpo (as it was called at the time) Taijutsu seemed to make sense: distance, timing, not relying on strength, not getting stuck in kata, moving through kamae, etc, etc.

However, as the years rolled-on, nothing happened to make me feel confident at self defence.

I was graded faster than anyone else at my first dojo in the UK, and so ego was a part of my reason for training. It felt good to be the top student, and I was constantly being asked to demonstrate and write articles about our training.

*** That isn't to say I was only training to look good to others. My chief reason for training was to learn effective self defence. But, just like so many other cults, the Bujinkan massages the egos of its students just enough to keep them coming back. Also, its teachers invent techniques on the spot so that no matter haw advanced a particular student may be, they are always playing 'catch-up' in an effort to learn the latest 'secrets' ***

Anyway, I went to Europe and visited S.Bogsater and A.Cousergue, and traveled to the USA and trained with J.Hoban, B.Atkins and others.

They were all LARPers.

By this time (about five years into my training), I had spent thousands on travel, and I was frustrated by the glaring differences between dojos. Things I had been praised for back home in England were seen as being 'weaknesses' by Jack Hoban or 'incorrect' by Bill Atkins. Things I'd been shown by Arnaud (such as dropping to one knee when bringing someone to the ground), were outrightly criticised by others.

Not that I didn't want criticism. But, when one fifteenth dan told me one thing, and then another contradicted that, I concluded that Hatsumi wasn't being reliably represented outside Japan.

In short, there was no 'truth', just play acting.

So, I came back home, and decided to travel to Japan.

By now, I was simply going through the motions. I had been training for long enough to be able to see the advantages and disadvantages of the Bujinkan. The advantages were few, and could be learned in a few months at judo or a traditional jujutsu dojo.

The disadvantages were many, and the ones that annoyed me the most were the lack of resistance training, and the LARPing that EVERYONE did, regardless of rank.

Japan was my last hope.

The first time I want to Japan, was a huge let-down. I went to a Daikomyousai, and the room was filled with eccentric Westerners wearing customised gis.

For the entire three days of training, there wasn't a single instance of demonstration of 'advanced' techniques against resistance; not even by Hatsumi or any of the Japanese Shihan; it was simply LARPing for Hatsumi's birthday.

Afterward, at Honbu, I was graded to godan. I heard Hatsumi move. I flew home disgusted.

On returning home, I was a godan, and my status in the dojo was even more of an ego-massaging affair. Not that I was boastful. That's not me at all. But, I was only human and it felt good to be asked questions by people wanting to be as 'good' as me. Still, though, it was a hollow feeling because I knew how weak I really was, and I'd lost all respect for the abilities of my teacher (not to mention Hatsumi as well).

Then, my work saw me flying-off to Australia to live. Despite my by now stark realisation that the Bujinkan was a fake, training was such a habit that I sought-out Ed Lomax. I'd heard he was the 'real deal' and a no-nonsense kind of guy. He was funny, he hit quite hard, and he talked about fairly practical things. But, he still LARPed. It was still purely THEORETICAL and no-one ever realistically resisted him.I trained with him in Sydney, and met Tim Bathurst.

I went to Japan another couple of times, and things just went from bad to horrible. Hatsumi was talking about all kinds of ridiculous things such as water and wind and all manner of imagined and unproven bollocks.

The techniques got more and more ludicrous and ineffective, and kamae and kata weren't even discussed anymore.
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I was graded to rokudan by Hatsumi at Honbu. He walked up to me and, through a New Zealand guy who was translating, told me I was now rokudan. I paid up and went home.

The last year and a bit was spent mainly training with a couple of guys from my Australian dojo. We would go twice a week to the dojo, but experiment on the weekends and after work. We tried to make the techniques and principles work against resistance. We gradually broke ties with the dojo, and took-up judo.

Now, things became clear: we knew fuck-all about balance-breaking and effective throws, locks, etc AGAINST RESISTANCE.

Finally, I'll make this very clear:

*** I AM NOT CLAIMING TO BE AN EXPERT FIGHTER. ALL I AM DOING IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BUJINKAN, WHICH IS THAT IT'S A COMMERCIAL ORGANISATION THAT CLAIMS TO TEACH EFFECTIVE SELF DEFENCE, AND YET THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY TRAINING AGAINST FULL RESISTANCE.

IT ALSO CLAIMS TO BE BASED ON NINE ANCIENT SCHOOLS, WHICH ARE NOT PROVEN TO BE IN HATSUMI'S POSSESSION, NOR, IN SOME CASES, TO HAVE EXISTED AT ALL BEFORE TAKAMATSU ***

Regardless of my experience with the Bujinkan, the things I am saying about it are factual and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
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zaxarion (2 months ago)
3.- Philosophy is what makes us different from animals: With philosofy you don't have to lift a finger to be able to defend yourself. I wish you the best and hope you find your path... I would love to talk this things with you, but I guess it's not possible... One last thing: I've doubted many times, but when technikes work against people who aren't larping for me: GOD DAMN it feels good to train in Bujinkan... God Bless you. END.
zaxarion (2 months ago)
2.- have different life experiences and different ways of teaching and aplying the concepts of self defense. You should also find your path. If you're weak: Weight lift so you get stronger! Budoka weren't weak, they were strong! So train, make your own path in martial art and teach a better Bujinkan way. And one last thing: The thing about Hatsumi and wind and water... You should listen, that is why he is a master: It's not about hitting people, anyone can do that and don't need any "dojo" training for that: ...
zaxarion (2 months ago)
1.- I read your story and watched your videos and now I could write a book on how lost you are on this subject... But I'll only say: To every technike there is a counter and to that counter there is another technike. It is not LARPING it is called cooperating. If you use full strength, arms and necks break, I assure you. Every dojo is different, because every teacher is different and they give their own interpretation of the martial art: Haven't you ever heard how many stiles of karate exist? It's beacause circumstances and people are different and...
anarchopk (5 months ago)
the things that prove to me bujinkan is the real deal is the fact that i've heard stories from people in the martial art who HAVE used the techniques in real life situations and say they work extremely well. also the fact that Jack Hoban is one of the people who helped design the MCMAP which takes a lot from bujinkan and is a modern martial art used in the battle field, is a good reason to believe this is real. whats more, i've used some very basic techniques on people who don't know any martial arts and they definitely work. i really don't see how you've trained in this art for as long as you claim and not understand how it is effective.
Blakar (5 months ago)
As a reference: I knew a girl, aged 16 who practiced pentjak silat. She got raped and nearly murdered. She fled the hospital, was not even completely healed but she found him and put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. (And if you ask me: rightfully so). She took the initiative and she used the techniques she knew without rules. That's RL. Is it therefor the most spectacular Martial Arts form? Far from, but if you use it with the "safety off" it'll hurt and the same will apply to Bujinkan and others. You're only fighting when there are no rules or barriers, everything else is RP to some degree.
Blakar (5 months ago)
After reading all comments here and looking at some more videos I guess the problem mostly lies in the fact that you consider sparring to be real and purposeful RP teaching not. To be honest, I think all sports combat is not real. If I get into a fight on the street I'm not wearing any armor, the guy doesn't care if he rips my arm of ... Most martial arts have lots of beauty and show (unnecessary) consecutive moves. In RL if you are at a breaking point you push thru if you can and don't continue in another way. There are no "real" sport fights, they all are limited. RL has no rules and hence in the end you'll be disappointed with every martial arts. And if you want to, any martial arts teaching will be useful and will enable you to seriously hurt people.
TomiGizmo (9 months ago)
the point is that many things can be understood not only with time
and the Bujinkan enter more and more people who want to learn everything at once.
But only the dedication, strength and so-called three hearts allow us to add all the elements that want to provide us with our instructors.
not everyone can or want to pass in that gets called all the information in question which should result in us.
"Protection and the possibility to decide on the lives of others"
not only whether our next
but also of persons who attack us and to third parties:)
That they can see and each of those of persons use this information to give us your way.
Ninjiutsu - the art of endurance, perseverance art, the art of invisibility and the art of survival
everything you need to protect against evil people, or understand the problem and help that person can found its way
toastyzone (10 months ago)
hey I only had one confrontation since I practice JuJitsu and I threw the guy by Uchimata. :P It's pretty easy even if his is bigger (cause they don't know nage waza). But I'm not saying that bjj is useless, I don't think you gonna find too much floor in war. If I go to war I will learn tanto jutsu because the knife will be in the most of the fights. Lol
anyway bjj, judo, jujitsu, bujinkan are great. I prefer a lot more Bujinkan than Bjj that's all.
Tengu909 (11 months ago)
Hi I don't know much about the Bujinkan or even about the other ninjutsu schools. The only thing I know from the modern Ninjutsu world is that it's pretty fucked up...there are several different schools and everyone claims to have the real heritage from the old ones...After reading the description from your channel, I understand your point of view about spiritual powers & miracle things. After all these painful experiences you must have fear of being victim of another hoax. Ego is always born from suffering. I apologize if my reply may have seem harsh or condescending but I thought you were one of those pretentious self-called intellectual truth-owners
ninpo4life (11 months ago)
You have requested that I make a video of me sparring, which I will try my best to get to you. Now I would like to request the same from you. That is fair. You post a fairly convincing story on your channel about your history with the Bujinkan, saying you eventually broke ties from the dojo with a friend and started judo. Please post a video of you sparring judo with this friend, otherwise you're just making statements without proof... "like Hatsumi," as you say to me sometimes. We wouldn't want that, now would we?
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