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derapfelstrudel
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derapfelstrudel
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Greenspan: US Can Pay Any Debt It Has Because It Can Print Money To Pay It
Airing Date Aug.07, 201
Greenspan On Meet The Press Today: US Can Pay Any Debt It Has Because It Can Print Money To Pay It! Meet The Press
HAHAHHA og god I've watched this like 5 times... I LOVE the look on the other guys face when Greenspan says it. Wonder what's going through his mind...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
The Internet: a place where nothing that is not followed by a smiley is a joke and everything that is followed by a smiley is a joke.
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Nice to know you're e-stalking me, you creepy fuck. If I catch you going through my trash I shoot to kill...
And finally some actually valid critique of TZM! Yes, indeed it has done little else, and I truly hope that will change ASAP.
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Sorry if I offended you, but I've had people there act confused about why sweatshops are bad thing, even after being shown evidence of the horrid conditions and maltreatment. Not in the sense that they understand why people are upset but disagree and see goo points, but in the sen...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@TheWingflyer
Ah, put the reason those third-world societies are so oppressive is because they still cling, in some small way, to government regulation! The answer is MORE market control, not less! Those places would be a paradise then! Take starvation for example. Why if it wasn't for pesky go...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@TheWingflyer
Oh, logic is given! However it is deductive logic expressed not formally but through verbal analysis. That means both that a) the premises are unproven and unprovable, they must be accepted on face value and b) the analysis is prone to error because, well, FFS it's VERBAL!
They pu...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
3. For your own sake, don't be arrogant and assume you know more than everyone else, even about their own world-view. Doesn't it say something that most of the "debates" you've had here haven't been actual debates, but consisted largely of people telling you that your assumptions ...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
2.No leaders does not mean no order, no cooperation, no governance, no planning or goals. The idea that there are enough resources to satisfy everyone's needs, i.e. an abundance, is a cornerstone of anarchist-communism.
And local governance does not mean that global management (re...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
1. You are quite serious about this? You are going to insist on educating an anarchist about what anarchism is? Is proving the other person wrong so important to you that you are willing to disregard facts?
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
1. I was encouraging you to read up on the general ideas, that are different but similar.
And yes, anarchism does seek to create abundance, that is a basic tenet. You'd know this if you actually took my advice instead of replying "lol" and relying on prejudice and ignorance.
Reg...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@FoodOrFail
You seem to have, at least, some sense of reason. Please forgive my harsh language, and do us all a favour and try to read up on TZM/TVP, and left-anarchism in general. Every objection you've had so far stems from a misunderstanding, and your position is far closer to TZM than you re...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@FoodOrFail
2. You remain, despite me stating it very simple and plain english, incapable of grasping the concept that "the spiritual/moral beliefs of the individual" are not independent of their environment. Surely you acknowledge that a child who grows up in a poor neighborhood without a fath...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@FoodOrFail
1. The difference between TZM and you is that it asks the question "what causes people to have the moral/spiritual convictions that they have?" and argues that this too is a result of the environment and culture.
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
3. That would mean that nature IS steady-state. If fact it is an excellent example of a steady-state system. While it is dynamic, and changes and adapts, left by itself it remains at or below the carrying capacity and does not exceed ecological limits.
Please, please, please at least skim the wi...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
2. Thirdly, try to please at least read the wiki on steady-state; it does not mean a frozen, static world where nothing may change. It means an economy on a "sustainable scale that does not exceed ecological limits", i.e. "at or below the carrying capacity" of the Earth. It doesn't mean that for...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Also, good job on managing to weasel out on arguing for how infinite growth in possible on a finite world. Still owe me that one...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Yup I just took it from the wiki. Forgive me for not wanting to go through "A Handbook of Economic Anthropology" at 4 o'clock in the morning. I have it right beside me, if you absolutely insist on another few examples.
Good job on demanding I present those when you could've just ...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
You seem to have memorized some typical free-market arguments and are now just spewing them whether they apply or not. You have so far not properly understood a single argument I've made, or responded to a single direct question. Still waiting on that explanation on how infinite g...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@FoodOrFail
Spiritual BELIEF is not the same as "spiritual deficiency" - spiritual belief is a part of culture and I agree that I affects human behaviour.
"Spiritual deficiency" to me implies an actual spiritual explanation, for instance "sin" or "lack of faith", which is what I reject.
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
-What? You sure have a talent for misunderstanding. My argument, this time, was with FoodOrFail over whether negative human behaviour is the result of a "spiritual deficiency" or culture and environment. I was not advocating living in such a society.
-"Always the other person who...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
You are a horrid person and I will not continue debating with you.
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
The Holy Trinity of Alex Jones: Jesus, Whiteness and Capitalism
Pray tell, what causes this spiritual deficiency? Eve eating an apple? Satan? Cause if so, GTFO.
Or can it be that society is structured in such a way as to encourage greed? Interesting idea, right? I wonder, can we find examples of...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Their advocacy of it gives the idea some weight; it does not make it true, but it does mean one cannot just dismiss it out of hand.
I am, for the moment, not arguing for a moneyless economy, but for steady-state in general.
I am therefor requesting the following from you:
a) ...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
I am going to put this very simply. I never used Keynes' model. Ever. I merely stated that since many prominent economists, for EXAMPLE Keynes and Mills, speak of steady-state, you can't just toss the idea aside without even an argument.
Then I presented my own argument: that in...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Except I don't. I haven't actually asked you to prove or disprove anything, my only request has been for you to actually argue against my claims and not just dismiss them in one sentence. I.e. explain WHY steady-state is impossible and don't just say it's "fiction".
Also, you acc...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
strawman. I, again, wasn't using Keynes or his model to defend the RBE idea. Just the general idea of a steady-state, i.e. non-growth economy. An idea you declared impossible. You did not declare it possible "if it uses money", or claim that a specific form of steady-state is impo...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Are you high? No, really?
-I invoked Keynes, yes, as a way to show that the idea of steady-state is taken seriously by even great and celebrated economists. Thus you cannot dismiss THE IDEA (not Keynes, the IDEA of steady-state) by just calling it fiction, you need to actually A...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
WHY ARE PEOPLE UPVOTING COMMENTS BY AN CRAZY RACIST TWO THINKS THE JEWS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11??
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
I used Keynes because he is a well-known economist, and takes seriously even by his opposition, to show that the idea of a steady-state economy, in and of itself, is not "fictional" or silly that can just be dismissed outright.
Now, what you just did, THAT'S a straw-man - you clai...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@danieljliversLXXXIX
Big deal since you claim to know what they're about.
@justintempler
-I never said he is right because he is celebrated, I said that it requires something on your part to dismiss him other than just claiming he is wrong with no argument or evidence.
-A "straw-man" is misrepr...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
It's called the Venus Project. Jesus, at least get the name right before you dismiss it, this way you only demonstrate that you know absolutely nothing about it...
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derapfelstrudel
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5 months ago
The Last Word on Utopia
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
http://www.corbettreport.co...
The masses have always wanted the quick fix, the wave of the magic wand that will fre...
@justintempler
Please at least read the wiki on steady-state, so you don't embarrass yourself. It doesn't literally mean everything must remain as it is, but that consumption is stable and remains at or below the carrying capacity of the Earth. There s an entire scientific field devoted to this...
Luigiano Paals audition - The X Factor UK 2011 (Full Version)
Luigiano comes from the Netherlands. He was previously involved in xfactor in the Netherlands and there was the sixth. Now he wants to win xfactor uk.
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derapfelstrudel said:
>come here from Shaun Smith video
>"Wow, that guy could really sing! Let see how this Luigiano cat sounds..."
>fucking black people.... why God was I born white??
Current 93 - As Real As Rainbows
So when and where
Were the revolutions?
The deserts now
Are full of the comas of stars
Bone and memory of fallen faces
Killing stars and wine
So wh...
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derapfelstrudel said:
@mentalholocaust
Really? I find it hard to think of her porn stuff at all - it's like this is so far away my mind just can't connect the two. I love her vocals on this actually. Somehow it's a good thing that it's not perfect and doesn't fit 100%, kinda fits the feeling of the song.
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