Sad? Why speak this way?

I have a war-obsessed neo-nazi on my channel: specops24th. He is completely obsessed with WWII and Adolf Hitler war divisions. He proposes a National Socialist political system for us all....and then I got MrChador a bible-thumping conclusions machine who espouses NO absolutely NO supporting premises, whirring about in circles. I tag them both colloquially 'fascists'. Ha! The world is too broad and vast for these petty ideologies which deny the engulfement of all things in uncountable eons and the fluidity between petty little boundries set up by human mind and grammer. Ridiculous!

No Paul, 2012.

God this, God that... you've still yet provided a reason why I should even think there's something outside the Universe, consciously mining it, and why this should affect my life in any way. Instead, like the usual Christian spiel, you hide behind rosy tinted words and phrases. You've no reason to tell others to seek answers when you gave up long ago.

What the hell are you on about? You keep typing and yet you're not saying anything. A low statistical probability doesn't mean anything when that something has already happened. You take the event for granted and think that's the only way it could've happened.

And what does this have to do with anything, then, if you're not using it to argue for something outside the Universe? (Only things that exist can reveal themselves to us).

The other post which you call "overly pious" I was just trying to answer your questions a couple posts further down. What then if there is a God and how are our lives any different. And I began by encouraging you to seek the answers because I think that is part of the process - to ask God what He asks of us. There is the old Baltimore catechism which gives a short answer that are purpose is to know, love and serve God. Jesus told us the two greatest commandments are to love God and neighbor. So that broadly answers the question. But I think much joy is found in seeking God's specific will for you, what gifts He gave you and how He might want you to use them.

Ok, that's fine, Daniel. I appreciate your just expressing you're not as interested. And no, I didn't say this argument alone is certain proof for God, and certainly not the Judeo-Christian God who we would not know much about if He did not choose to reveal Himself to us. In science anyway we often speak of probabilities and gaining confidence in a theory, not proof. Roger Penrose puts it one can see it as a probability, in this case that the odds of the low entropy occurring by chance are 1 in 10^123. So that's great odds it didn't occur by chance and one can place much confidence in it. The example was just a classical one I believe from Boltzmann that illustrates the idea of useful potential energy which one can see is true in the universe.

A connection that you were wrong to make. I really don't care about physical decay. I care about social decay. I've only pointed out how believing that this somehow vindicates a believe in a god (especially a certain Judeo-Christian god) is nonsense. No, your water mill example doesn't work. It's like those who try to use a painter to argue for a creator. The painter and paint - the water and the mill - are just results of the Universe. Using them to make some wishy-washy metaphor about something that exists outside of them fails.

What is this? Thinking God? For what? Your overly pious feelings toward this is absurd.

Filthy language such as this will not be tolerated on my channel.

We're the way we are because of evolutionary and environmental factors. You just make one presumption over another without substantiating any of it.

Regarding what if there is a God? It's a good question.  And i hope you'll seek answers more. I agree we're still the way He made us. for me, knowing there is a God means there is a purpose to our lives, and hope. I believe He wants us to love Him and our neighbor, and to seek and do His will. Jesus said His yoke is easy and His burden light. For what it's worth I was an agnostic til I was 29. It's not that life was awful then, but even then I sought something, including love. Looking back now, I truly see how I was blind in many ways, buffeted around more because I think I relied more on others and now more on God.