"The only thing new in the world is the history you don't know."
-Harry S. Truman

"The hasty reader of my History of the Swiss Revolution, has said that I gave full credit to the stories of Robison and Barruel, and that I attributed to the Illuminati, the fatal disasters which have befallen the nations of Europe; while in my letter, addressed to Judge Addison, of Pennsylvania, I have appeared inclined to look upon the relations of the French Jesuit and the Scotch Professor, only as tales, or the fabrications of artful men. But this is an inference made without either due consideration, or proper attention to what I have written."

(John Wood, "A Full Exposition of the Clintonian Faction and the Society of the Columbian Illuminati." [Newark, New Jersey: Wood, John. 1802.] p. 22.)

"In some respects, the meeting that convened in the middle of spring 1981 bore the marks of thousands of board meetings going on at the same moment in every daylight country of the world. Beyond glass-paneled double doors, a conference between seven men was in progress. A folder bulging with reports lay in front of each man. At each man's elbow a full carafe of water topped with a glass was perched. Anyone happening to glance in might have said that the men gathered there were absorbed in the sort of hushed but free-wheeling discussion typical of board meetings everywhere. But this was not the sort of meeting most people have ever witnessed, or even glimpsed through shut, glass-paneled doors. This conference room was on the third floor of the Palace of the Popes on Vatican Hill.. [cont.]..

.[cont]..The report folders were red damask and emblazoned in gold with the Tiara and Keys. Outside the door, a secretary and two Swiss Guards in traditional uniform were on duty to block all intruders. Seated at the conference table were the Pontiff of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and six of his most powerful cardinals, the movers and shakers of the Vatican, a cameo of its most formidable strength. And the subject of discussion between them was the life or death of the Society of Jesus: whether, in other words, the Order headed by Father General Pedro Arrupe should be allowed to go on as it was, or be reorganized and reset according to the often-repeated wishes of three Popes, or be officially done to death by the power and under the authority of Pope John Paul II."

(Malachi Martin, "The Jesuits: The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church" [Simon & Schuster, Inc., New York, New York. 1987.] pp. 79-80.)

@universe The reason we dont agree is, youre looking at this from your own opinion according to your interpretation of biblical prophecy. I dont believe the pope is the antichrist. But as far as Freemasonry goes, it is a moral compass for life, its not a religion. If you come to the conclusion that Christianity is the "true light," then be a Christian. Freemasonry is about civil and religious freedom. Its about tolerance. It doesnt matter what religion you are, as long as youre a decent and caring person, with morals.

@universe I know we pretty much dont agree most of the time, but youre always respectful to me, and I mean no disrespect, but, no one can agree on the exact meaning, could be a phoenix, but thats just speculation. But saying the "Masonic Luciferian Phoenix" is a little much. Theres a few explanations, such as: "...the double-headed eagle is a Hermetic symbol, representing the divine generative potency, and productive capacity of Nature. Like the human figure with two heads, one male the other female, - God and Nature; the Egypian Osiris and Isis."

But where it comes from?:
"The double-headed eagle was probably first introduced as a symbol into masonry in the year 1758. In that year the body calling itself the Council of Emperors of the East and West was established.. " The double headed eagle was adopted in reference to the double jurisdiction the Council claimed. Then the Council of the East and West was absorbed by the Scottish Rite.

the masonic doubleheaded eagle its not an eagle but a  PHOENIX

the video is called//////  MASONIC DOUBLEHEADED PHOENIX

here is the masonic double headed eagle video i made http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=lGFlYBXVDUg

For in much wisdom there is much sorrow; whoever increases knowledge increases grief.

-Ecclesiastes 1:18