TYSON '86-'88 BOXING LEGEND
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MIKE TYSON DESTROYING PRIME GEORGE FOREMAN
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Mike Tyson vs George Foreman
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It's not just who a boxer fights but how he performs; the skill that he demonstrates in the ring, this is what determines a boxer's ability and capacity.




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Mike Tyson '86-'88 was the complete boxer- pin point accurate extremely fast and powerful combinations and extraordinary defensive skills; with near perfect timing and reflexes. Ali and Frazier were great but Tyson '86-'88 was greater. Ali had a better career than Tyson but Tyson '86-'88 would dominate prime Ali and humiliate Frazier.

As usual I expect the old-timers (and young fans who are clueless) to sling insults at me. Tyson '86-'88 greatest hw boxer ever!

Tyson '86-'88 was not simply a swarmer, he could counter extremely well and was a complete boxer.

Tyson dissenters incorrectly assume that Tyson would swarm Foreman (and don't give some crap like? Tyson always swarmed because Tyson '86-'88 didn't always swarm); he out boxed people as well. Foreman would get out boxed by Mike it is as simple as that.

Tyson HATERS overlook something called COMBINATIONS, Tyson '86-'88 could throw three punches? for every one punch of Foreman and Tyson as Holmes admitted is extremely accurate as Holmes found out the hard way. Ali would get hit right on the button (the temple) as Holmes got hit and get hit with the follow up punches. The combinations would overwhelm Ali. Shavers could not throw pin point accurate combinations like Tyson '86-'88.

Even if Ali can withstand Tyson '86-'88's combos, Tyson wins at least 9 out of 12 rounds (or 11 out of 15 rounds) for UD.

Don't make the mistake of confusing Tyson '86-'88 with Tyson post '88 too many people suffer from this confusion; liberate yourself if you have not already; know the difference.

Tyson '86-'88 would outbox Ali. Just watch his fights. Tyson '86-'88 is a superior boxer. Ali would not be able to evade Tyson's combinations and Tyson would rack up points and win most of the rounds. Tyson '86-'88 would evade Ali's punches. If Ali decided to go toe to toe with Tyson, Tyson would KO him. But, that's not Ali's style; he doesn't go toe to toe with a boxer with great punching power. Thus, the fight might go the distance. If so, Tyson would win on points and dominate Ali. But even if Ali ran, Tyson would catch him with a big combination and "destroy" Ali via KO.




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Holyfield's "Triple Threat Strategy" (I am the originator and sole owner of this phrase): 1) use steroids (as documented by ESPN and other media), 2) head-butt a lot, 3) and hold excessively (in clear violation of boxing rules but for some reason perhaps because of Holyfield's "good guy" image, the refs don't enforce the rules, this applies to the head-butting as well).

長いボクシングの歴史の中においても、マイク・タイソンは確かに­1番だ!
I'd love to see prime Tyson fight prime Foreman and show him how to actually box. Tyson in his prime would make Foreman look like a complete buffoon by countering him and destroying him with FAST combinations. The Tyson that fought Biggs and Spinks would murder Foreman. Foreman is exactly the type of fighter Tyson was talking about when he said "how dare these boxers with their primitive boxing skills try to challenge me. They're as good as dead."

Foreman is not a top 5 boxer ppl sorry to all the Foreman fans out there (either is Frazier). No disrespect to Foreman fans. This is how I see it.

Prime Tyson, Louis, Ali, L. Lewis, and Holmes would make Foreman look bad (much worse than Jimmy Young did).
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Top Prime Hws All Time
1. Mike Tyson '86-'88
2. Joe Louis '38-'41
3. Muhammad Ali '64-'67
4. Lennox Lewis '99-'02
5. Larry Holmes '78-'83

Mike Tyson Timeline

*Tyson, the prodigy:
Tyson clearly was a prodigy; the youngest heavyweight champion, he won WBC heavyweight belt in November of '86 at the age of 20 years and 4 months old in his 28th match. Looking at the pace and frequency that he fought at from '85-'88 (see below) and comparing this with his inactivity after '88 and the fact that he no longer trained with trainer Kevin Rooney; and also the young age of Tyson and the rate of his success; should it really be a surprise that he went steeply downhill after that point?

Tyson began training with Cus D'Amato at the age of 14. Also, Tyson was trained by Kevin Rooney starting by about age 16.
Tyson competed at the 1982 Junior Olympic Games, where he won a silver medal, after the loss in the finals against Petr Palecek, an amateur Czech boxer. He holds the Junior Olympic quickest knockout record with 8 seconds. In addition he won every bout at the Junior Olympic Games by knockout.

He fought Henry Tillman twice as an amateur losing both bouts under controversial and close decisions. Tillman went on to win heavyweight Gold at the Los Angeles Olympics.
The decisions were controversial because many believe the judges failed to take into account the power punches of Tyson in making their decision.

Later as a professional Tyson knocked out Henry Tillman in the first round in June of '90.

*stamina and childhood history of asthma; Tyson from amateurs to pro until '88 trained and fought throughout the calendar year; most of time of the year. As a child Tyson was asthmatic and of course his stamina was affected by this. But, as an amateur and for the first three years of his professional boxing career he was able to overcome this by intensive and constant training (see Tyson vs Ribalta match where he fought 10 rounds of non-stop boxing in '86 and Tyson vs Tucker, Thomas, Tillis and Green, all matches won by decision between 10-12 rounds).

When Tyson first turned pro in '85 he fought in 15 matches in 9 months; sometimes fighting every 2 weeks; in 86 he fought in 13 matches; in '87 he fought four times but with only about 2 months in between each match (in '87 his first match was in March and the last in October, so on average he fought about once every two months); In 88 Tyson fought 3 matches in the first 6 months (about once every 2 months on average).

After the match with Spinks in June of '88 Tyson had a 8 month layoff until his next match.

Tyson vs Bruno, 02/89, first fight without long-time trainer Kevin Rooney and 8 months after Tyson knocked out Spinks in the 1st round in June '88. Against Bruno, Tyson's head movement and peek-a-boo style was mostly gone; the 8 month layoff was also a factor.

Tyson only fought twice in '89 because of promoter Don King who wanted to further market and increase consumer demand for the matches.

Tyson fought Bruno on 02/89, and months later he fought Williams on 07/89, and then seven months later he fought Douglas on 02/90.

Tyson's defensive and offensive skills and stamina progressively deteriorated after the Spinks' fight. This was very clear when Tyson fought Bruno on 02/89; Tyson took significantly more punches in that fight than in any other previously; his stamina and skills were not as before. This was because of the long layoff, lack of training and lack of proper training now without trainer Kevin Rooney.

After the Bruno, Tyson fought 5 months later. He fought Carl Williams and was able to knockout Williams in the 1st round. And then, Tyson had a 7 month layoff until the match with Douglas in 02/90.

By no stretch of imagination was the Tyson that fought Douglas the same Tyson that fought in '85-'88. Anyone that believes otherwise needs to watch Tyson's fights of '85-'88 (see Tyson vs Tucker, Biggs, Thomas, Ribalta, etc. and ANY fight during '85-88; he was clearly a different fighter then when he fought Douglas in 02/90.

Tyson's prime was 86-88, a 3 year period, during which he was very well conditioned, had very good stamina, excellent reflexes and skills (see Tyson vs Tucker, Thomas, Spinks, Biggs, Holmes, Ribalta, Smith, Berbick, Fravier, Tillis, Green, Ferguson, etc.)(see my favorites on the top left side)

After Tyson was released from prison 95, Tyson fought 16 matches from 95 until 2005, none of which went to decision and his stamina progressively worsened.

Tyson was a prodigy like most prodigies he had phenomenal success at a young age but burned out and was not the same after his early remarkable success. Despite this his earlier accomplishments should not be overlooked or overshadowed by later events. Many view Tyson 86-88 as capable of defeating any boxer in history. To those who doubt this perhaps further study of his early fights and the context and background concerning Tyson would allow you to develop a more informed opinion.
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What boxers did Tyson beat who were good/great boxers? Biggs,Tucker, Thomas, Spinks, Ribalta, Smith, Berbick, Fravier, Tillis, Holmes, etc. Feel free to watch these boxing matches by clicking on the videos on the right side.
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Ganstaz003 (3 weeks ago)
DW bro. And fuck all the haters, Mike Tyson is simply the greatest boxer to have ever stepped into the ring. I agree with just about everything you have written in this channel about Tyson. After the 90's, Mike was never quite the same boxer ever again.
Ganstaz003 (1 month ago)
Great videos mate! Fellow Mike Tyson fan.
28rampage (3 months ago)
ah not bad bro, been training hard and i'm ready to fight again at 75kg, dropped almost 2 stone since june and feeling good, fight last week fell through so next date is dec 4th so fingers crossed bcos i'm starving from the dieting lol, i give up trying to explain the tyson shit now, people can't understand simple facts?
28rampage (3 months ago)
long time no hear bro hows things?
Tysonisthebestever (3 months ago)
Tyson would destroy Ali. Ali is overrated; Tyson is under-appreciated. You fail to grasp the abilities of prime Mike Tyson.
PrimeAliProductions (3 months ago)
Haha you think Tyson can "OUTBOX" Ali? Lol. Do u even think Tyson could last the distance with Ali? Ali would tear him apart.
2pacisthebest90 (6 months ago)
he doesn't know anything about sports PERIOD.
kmesprtan (7 months ago)
tyson with rooney and jacobs backing him gave him the mental support that he so desperatly needed in big name fights...therfore tyson without rooney and jacobs is not a PRIME TYSON DONT YOU FUCKING HATER FUCKS GET IT....
Tysonisthebestever (7 months ago)
hey consta (aka combatesdeboxeo), back for more punishment are we? Thanks for all the memories consta; owning and baiting you has been great fun!!!!!! Questions: how does a boxer 'support punches'? Also, how does a boxer 'win' another boxer (e.g. 'Ali win Frazier")???? Please do tell!! I'll be waiting for your reply, my dear....
yerty2000 (7 months ago)
Constaaaaaaaaaaa! So glad your impoverished, free-loading, third-world government has turned your electricity back on... Soon you'll have running water too (providing the EU bails you out - again).
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