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ThanToFadeAway commented 6 months ago
William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
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@KBrimstone It's not fallacious, it's an inescapable ramification of omniscience. If the future is entirely known, it is set and unalterable. Free will, neither ours nor gods, can exist simultaneously with omniscience. To say otherwise is literally saying 'The future is both perfectly known an...
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ThanToFadeAway commented 6 months ago
William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
Transcript of the debate:
http://www.reasonablefaith....
http://www.bethinking.org/c... - Don't forget about...
@KBrimstone No, I'm pointing out that you've never given any reason why any fundamental force of the universe should've been different than it is right now. 'It should have been different because I can't conceive of it existing as it does now' is an argument from incredulity.
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William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
Transcript of the debate:
http://www.reasonablefaith....
http://www.bethinking.org/c... - Don't forget about...
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ThanToFadeAway said:
@Birdieupon If he only knows the possibilities of what we can choose then that's not perfect knowledge. The point remains that if what you're going to do was known beforehand then you can't freely choose to do it without contradicting supposedly perfect knowledge.
If I say 'I know that you're ...
William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
Transcript of the debate:
http://www.reasonablefaith....
http://www.bethinking.org/c... - Don't forget about...
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ThanToFadeAway said:
@Birdieupon I've explained exactly how. I've told you that perfect foreknowledge actually means that it's not a choice because choice would necessitate that options were possible. The knowledge itself doesn't amount to a cause, the fact that the knowledge can be had means that the future is pre...
William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
Transcript of the debate:
http://www.reasonablefaith....
http://www.bethinking.org/c... - Don't forget about...
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ThanToFadeAway said:
@Birdieupon If my decisions affect gods knowledge then he's not omniscient.
William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
Transcript of the debate:
http://www.reasonablefaith....
http://www.bethinking.org/c... - Don't forget about...
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ThanToFadeAway said:
@Birdieupon If it were known to happen then it's not a free choice. If god knew I was going to wear my black shoes instead of brown today then I couldn't have worn my brown unless I were able to contradict gods foreknowledge.
William Lane Craig vs. AC Grayling (The Debate That "Never Happened"?)
Transcript of the debate:
http://www.reasonablefaith....
http://www.bethinking.org/c... - Don't forget about...
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ThanToFadeAway said:
@walkingphilosopher Actually what we're doing is not allowing theists to shift the burden of proof. If you claim god exists, the onus is yours to show it.
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