Cheers for the info on CG 2.0, should provide some good reading!

@RealOldOne2
Did you watch the latest Greenman video on Kirkby and the Cloud experiment?
Greenman wants to show us the uncertainties of that physical experiment (which can be repeated again and again with the same results) and clouds in the climate system. Confirming what Svensmark already showed with his research and paper. While on the other hand he dismisses all the uncertainties of CO2 increase with climate warming and accepts the IPCC GCMs as true science.
That's a religion!

@RealOldOne2
I hope your last remark was meant to be funny. I deliberately leave science out of my page as much as possible. Especially climate science.
Reason: I don't want to spend too much time on childish and irrational people like mphello. Btw Iceman and Honeycutt are nicer to deal with.
Youtube was meant to be a little bit of relaxation to me. On the way I somehow plunged into these climate science discussions under Greenman's videos.

@robbieopen Yes, mphello reacts w/childish irrational adhom attacks when shown real science that he can't refute. His own words convict him of being an irrational fanatical believer in CAGW.

mphello said:"To the trolls who continue with this "plants grow better with CO2 in the air" lie: Bullshit. Plants grow better with the C in the ground. Fact."
Really? All those commercial greenhouses are just wasting their money by increasing the CO2 to >1000ppm?

mphello also said:"I don't take sides on (AGW). . . I am completely rational and objective"
But on greenman's Water Vapor & Climate crock mphello said:"I don't waste my time trying to prove anything to these fanatics anymore. I go/think outside the box and ATTACK and BELITTLE and doubt them on ANYTHING they say about ANYTHING. . . Treat them with ABSOLUTE DISRESPECT."
Doesn't take sides? Rational & objective? Hardly!

BTW Rob, your website is very nice. Real science there.

To mphello (also my previous comment) So mphello: If you want to be taken seriously may I suggest to prove your claims with credible evidence/sources if you want to take part in an adult discussion.
Goodbye!

It was the elite, who bankrupted Greece. Not coal and oil.
In the UK it was just some teenagers who were bored to death. Nothing to do with coal and oil either.
In Libya and Egypt it was the removal of two tirannic dictators who treated their citizens like .... .
America is on the brink of becoming bankrupt and preparing to be declared BROKE. That always will turn out in some fights and demonstrations. History proves that over and over.

So you see: The examples you gave here have nothing to do with the coal-oil-gas system. If you can prove me wrong I suggest you give some credible sources please which state clearly that these fights in these countries have everything to do with being freed from the coal-oil-gas system.

@mphello It would be wise for you to read the June 2011 issue of the National Geographic and read the article by Bill McKibben (the alarmist) on China's Green policy. Find out what the percentage of wind and solar power will be for the future.
It turns out that wind and solar is not able to replace the ever growing demand in energy. I can give you page after page after page, but it won't change your conviction.
Besides wind and solar do not get me from London to New York.
The reason why you are just shouting on this page and not contributing anything substantial to the scientific discussion at all is a sure sign that you feel somehow threatened/cornered in your belief of catastrophic climate change. If you want to take part in an adult conversation I suggest: Grow Up!

RealOldOne2: you don't know shit about science or reality.
Nobody's going to take you seriously on subjective matters like politics and economics.
Nobody's going to care what you have to say or listen to you.

Anthropogenic global warming (AGW) deniers are unpatriotic cowards who would sell out their countries for a few bucks. World populations are rising up, in Greece, in UK, in Libya, in Egypt, in America, in Canada and fighting back against the coal-oil-bankster-corporate-we­lfare elite! They are courageously fighting the tar sands oil extraction. They are demanding a revolutionary against the coal-oil-gas industry stranglehold on our lives and governments, and overthrowing the coal-oil-gas system with wind-and-solar-based power.

But thanks for your reply!