very true about the bias thing but even if vegeta is radically stronger shadow still controls time and space so shadow still holds he advantage assuming he doesnt kill shadow right away either way sweet fight

well then if my theory is correct then ssj4 vegeta would own shadow and ssj2 gt vegeta is stronger than ssj3 z goku so ssj2 gt vegeta would probably beat shadow too because everyone in gt is drastically stronger than when they were 10 years ago seriously base gt kid goku is probably stronger than super buu

thanks bro now whenever you get around to it i would still like to know what you think about my ssj2 vegeta vs super shadow theory

yeah i have read most of the issues with scourge in them and BTW how much longer does anarchy beryl last compared to the chaos emeralds i know it last longer but by how much from what i gathered it last longer than 5 minutes as opposed to the chaos emeralds 2 minutes or less i know its based on a ring count for chaos emeralds but scourge had no rings when he transformed

thats cool bro i can wait also i just read about scourge he is a badass probably my fav sonic character

@MrDrMace you know i just realized something i know the chaos force is a pool of limitless power but based information its not clear how much of the chaos force can be accessed in a super form in all honesty i would think that you cant access too much otherwise sonic and shadow wouldnt have a hard time against anyone so wouldnt that mean they cant access too much of it? you yourself also say that if you sustain too much damage in your super form your pushed out of it quicker so wouldnt that mean ssj2 vegeta would beat super shadow im well aware they can access enough of the chaos force to beat a ssj but what about something far stronger like a ssj2 which is 7 times stronger than a ssj they chaos force may contain limitless power but that doesnt mean sonic or shadow can tap into all of it just a thought i would like to know if you know how much of the chaos force they can access

thanks for trying but he is still an ass hole and thanks for the compliment on my super emeralds theory :)

sweet thanks bro but you still didnt answer how do you like my theory about the super emeralds

@MrDrMace sigh again i have another idiot for you to deal with his name is bONz08r0nzan he thinks mario can beat sonic and goku and im done arguing with him and again you know a lot more about sonic than me so maybe you can convince him he is kinda retarded please help me

@MrDrMace i think i may have figured out the difference between the super emeralds and the chaos emeralds i think the super emeralds may give an increased speed stat higher than the chaos emeralds can also i think the super emeralds also provide true invincibility meaning protected from all attacks meaning the user wont lose rings do to being attacked considering the chaos emeralds provide unlimited power and not unlimited speed something tells me theres still something to gain meaning they might provide more speed and duribility since the chaos emeralds provide light speed, unlimited power, and close to full on invincibility the super emeralds must provide speed greater than light speed, unlimited power and complete invincibility considering they are called "super" emeralds they have to provide something the chaos emeralds dont provide let me know what you think about my theory