A Wetback?! Oh Man, I nearly cracked a rib laughing at that one!!!!

BITCH! U ARE THE ONE THAT TRASHY! BITCH! TUPAC IS A FUCKING LEGEND! YOU DUMB BITCH! IN U POOR WHITE TRASH! OR A FUCKING WET BACK.

Fair enough, the British are no more nor less degenerate than anyone else. Perhaps having lived away from the country for a while I am referencing my experiences through a warped lens.

I personally do firmly agree with the Dalrumple essay though. An ectopic pregnancy doesn't mean rape of course, but it DOES mean underage sex has taken place, which still IS against the law. The US system is f**ked up but they would not be so laissez faire about a pregnant 15 year old; they would get to the bottom as to who knocked her up pretty darn quick (perplexingly, even regardless of the girl feelings).

The Old Bill was bent and the system broken, and that was what permitted a twisted, sick, inbred animal as Fred West to continue with his depravity.

I read the full article and I disagree with a lot of the points made. Ectopic pregnancy does NOT mean rape. As I said before, underage sex has always been common; no doubt in the States as well. The police obviously turned a blind eye because they were Rose's customers. It's also notable that most of the victims were dropouts and runaways. Of the two examples given, Lynda Gough's parents gave up looking for her and Juanita Mott wasn't even reported missing.

Regardless, if there was a degree of "keep it in the family" it's not symptomatic of the British personality. You could find similar situations in towns all over the world. The recent incest cases in Austria being a good example.

Look, my comment was not meant as an insult to the Brits or this specific community, I can clearly seen that you have taken it that way and I apologise for any offense caused.

But, in fairness, having spent the first 28 years of my life in the UK I think that I have had enough personal experience to comment on the culture, especially having grown up in a community just like this (even stranger still, the village that I grew up in started with a 'Much' too, although that is all I'll say to save the place the shame).

Incest and in-breeding was a common feature in the village I lived but there was just this uncomfortable attitude of 'keep it to yourself and keep it in the family'. I think that this is born of embarrassed politeness.

Sadly it has unforeseen and at times very destructive consequences.

Walter and Daisy allegedly sexually abused their children so of course they did nothing - in their eyes, Fred was doing nothing wrong. Where is your proof that Rena Costello knew about McFall? Rena wasn't even around most of the time. If she had suspected Fred, she wouldn't have left the children with him or come back to visit him. As for Anne-Marie's pregnancy, underage sex is very common so there's no logical reason to suspect incest.

It's insulting that you could say that Fred West's crimes were allowed to happen because of an "embarrassed community." You obviously haven't spent much if any time in Britain.

Charming. I'm not an idiot.
Fred West told his mother and father, Daisy and Walter West about the murder and subsequent burial of his first victim Ann McFall. They did nothing. It was also strongly suspected that Fred's friend and fellow pimp Rolf, helped him dispose of the body in fingerpost field.
Rena Costello even knew of the fate that befell Ann and she did nothing (the sad reality is that perhaps if she had said something to the authorities then she would not have met with the same ending herself).

Anne-Marie even ended up in the hospital with an atopic pregnancy at 13, as a result of incest rape by her father. Why were no questions asked about the underage pregnancy? Perhaps if these issues had been dealt with sooner, much of what happened later could have been prevented.

What are you talking about? No one knew the murders were happening you idiot.