AFAIK, Naturalism/Sociology has never been able to explain why people should have objective morals without an Absolute moral source. I've heard that Good is decided by what brings the most happiness to people, but no one has explained why anyone needs to follow that idea, or why choosing not to live by that is considered Evil or Wrong.

What was the precondition that Good = Happiness and Evil = Unhappiness. So a deed's nature is decided by the level of happiness? And if so, why is that the case? What if someone disagrees with that system? If Society just arrived at this conclusion and placed these ideas on themselves, then morals are nothing more than conventions accepted among men; completely open to interpretation and variance without authority to justify either.

"Stein explained how intrinsic order of the universe and sociology would account for the (not necessarily universal or absolute) laws of logic and science and morals"

Responding by saying, "The Universe is uniform, because that's just it's nature," is not an answer. How does Stein's world view (WV) account for the Universe's natural uniform order? Scientists paint us a picture of a universe that didn't begin by having intrinsic order. The theory of Evolution itself testifies to a lack of intrinsic order for its beginnings.

"Christianity, through it's absurdity and vagueness ultimately arrives at immorality. Man can come to this conclusion using the logic God gave him"

You seem to be holding believers morally culpable for not relinquishing their belief in God..How does one do this, given Naturalism's lack of a transcendent moral source, which is a major issue for that world view? Also, arguing from a WV which deprives one of an objective moral source, how can one arrive at the conclusion that Christianity makes men immoral? Please, explain.

Greg Bahnsen was a heretic.
Bahnsen and Van Til both defended Norman Shepherd, who was dismissed from Westminster seminary (Pa) for teaching the Roman Catholic view of Justification By Faith And Works.

Van Til and Greg Bahnsen both rejected the Calvinist teaching on the Trinity, for they taught that God was one person in three persons.

Van Til and Bahnsen also rejected Sola Scriptura, for both of these neo-orthodox heretics taught that all the teachings of Scripture are "apparently" self-contradicting.

Finally, Van Til and Bahnsen are not even presuppositionalists . Both fools give an argument for God's existence (transcendental argument), and both maintain that the classical arguments are valid in "some sense", but a real presuppositionalist does not argue for God's existence, but starts with Scripture Alone.

I support apologetics...i'm just concerned if it's legal to upload Dr. Bahnsen's material...pls help me out

I greatly appreciate your posting of Greg's material. You have performed a much needed service for Christ's church in the area of apologetics.

Science is not a lie... It's much closer to any truth than your imaginary friend. Christianity comforts you and you hold scorn for your fellow man. You look down on those that don't aspire to the standards of your imaginary God. And in choosing to be Christian, you've readily admitted that belief without evidence is OK. Christianity, through it's absurdity and vagueness ultimately arrives at immorality. Man can come to this conclusion using the logic God gave him

Atheists are complete morons! To think you can know how the universe began without divine revelation! Dr Bahnsen kicks some serious scholarly ass!

"he beat Stein and Smith fair and square".
No he didn't. he presented the TAG argument, Stein explained how intrinsic order of the universe and sociology would account for the (not necessarily universal or absolute) laws of logic and science and morals. Then Bahnsen pretended he didn't answer, and reiterated the chalenge. Then Stein explained his point again, then Bahnsen continued to assert that Stein hadn't given an answer without givin any reason at all why the answers given were invalid.

Playing deaf and repeating something over and over again doesn't make someone right.

God bless you:)