@SDC121986 The Romans crucified Jesus Christ,...the Romans burned the library in Alexandria that contained priceless historical data,...the Romans fed Christians to the Lions. Is this your Idea of making things happen? It took Constantine (born near Nis Serbia) to make things happen,...to legalize Christianity,...to move the Capital from the rot that was Rome to Constantinople and to bring an age of enlightenment. The Roman Catholics have fought against this every step of the way,...need I remind you of the atrocity's that were committed against Orthodox Christendom during the 4th crusade???

Rome was Rome is and Rome always will be a black mark on human history. Time uncovers all lies and reveals all truths,...time is the ultimate judge and jury. Rome has been found guilty as charged.

poli kala.

geia.ti kaneis?

And that's the subtle difference - Greeks do not feel the need to disparage any other culture or civilization in order magnify their own.
I could put just as well the Roman history through the wringer but I can do without that since I don't suffer from inferiority complexes.
And no, I don't regard the Greek laws for the protection of the youth or the laws against homosexuality as a "Stain".
Your so far comments are nothing but hot air. You did not even explain WHAT makes the Romans superior to Greeks. And dont give me that "stain" again, Rome is stained to the bone.
Compile your list. I'm dying to see that.

It cannot be denied that the Byzantine Empire came as a result of the Romans. That's why it's called the Eastern Roman Empire. I'm not trying to put Greeks down. They were pretty important 5,000 years ago. However, Rome had the bigger impact on society today. The Greeks might have had the original concept, but it took the Romans to actually get things done. Also the Roman legacy isn't stained by all the negative stereotypes that have the Greeks (pederasty, infanticide, diseases, etc.). I just wanted to point that out in contrast to the bold statement you made saying that Greeks were greater than the Romans. You know that to be false! Other than that, I'll give it to the Greeks. In terms of importance in the days of antiquity, I'd rank them up there just behind Rome and Egypt. I respect them and I respect you. You have much to be proud of. Thanks for the comments. It would mean a lot to have my invite accepted already!

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1. What had the Byzantine Dynasties to do with Rome?
2. What had the Greek Orthodox church to with the Roman Catholic one?
3. Have you also missed the chapters about Justinian, Nicephoros I etc?
4. Constantine the Great lived at a time when the Roman Empire still existed, so whats your point?

Cut it short 'cause i have no time for your flitter

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Christopher Celenza - Johns Hopkins Univ. "Renaissance Hellenism"

This talks presents examines the emergence of Hellenism in the Renaissance by focusing on a mixture of ideals, texts, and historical confluences that, together, allowed Renaissance thinkers, ever hungry for things ancient, to appropriate the Hellenic world. In the fourteenth century, both Petrarch (1304-74) and Boccaccio (1313-75) made attempts, ultimately unsuccessful, at learning Greek. There and then, a university chair was established for Greek instruction, and it was filled by Manuel Chrysoloras, a Byzantine diplomat, with whom a number of humanists studied. As one of them, Leonardo Bruni (1370-1444), put it as he was deciding to quit his legal training, the lure was irresistible: "When you have a chance to see and converse with Homer and Plato and Demosthenes ... will you deprive yourself of it?"

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At the beginning of the fifteenth century, most major works of Plato and Plutarch were known only by reputation. By the end of the century, Europeans found themselves in possession of almost all of the Greek works we possess today. Beyond the textual acquisitions, however, there lay significant social and historical matters associated with Hellenism. Though the humanist program wound up affecting most educated Europeans by the middle of the sixteenth century, in effect it was primarily Latinate; knowledge of Greek remained in the custody of a select few. The anxiety of influence that pervades ancient Roman literature made itself felt in the Renaissance as well, as the Hellenic world remained a source of mystery, wisdom, and enticement. Proceeding chronologically, this talk focuses on key figures, institutions, and cultural moments that shaped early modern Hellenism.

by Richard Evans

"There are three stages in the history of scholarship during the Renaissance. The first is the age of passionate desire. Petrarch poring over a Homer he could not understand, and Boccaccio in his maturity learning Greek, in order that he might drink from the well-head of poetic inspiration, are the heroes of this period. They inspired the Italians with a thirst for antique culture. Next comes the age of acquisition and of libraries. Nicholas V, who founded the Vatican Library in 1453, Cosmo de' Medici, who began the Medicean collection a little earlier, and Poggio Bracciolini, who ransacked all the cities and convents of Europe for manuscripts, together with the teachers of Greek, who in the first half of the fifteenth century escaped from Constantinople with precious freights of classic literature, are the heroes of this second period. It was an age of accumulation, of uncritical and indiscriminate enthusiasm."