I know you guys probably have your own copy of the 98% Beta. You'd be fools to destroy it after all the work you put in. Treasure it, because you guys made a helluva of a game.

This is the kind of sequel that this series needed. If SE came out with a sequel now ,it be hard to actually have anything better than this.

I know you'll never release the 98%, but I'm glad you made the movies. At least it provided the necessary closure.

Continuation, then I'll shut up :)

Yes, SE has the right to do what they did, but antagonizing your customers is bad business, and sooner or later it comes back to bite you. What would SE lose by allowing CE to be released? Unless they're planning to release their own Chrono sequel along the lines of CE, which, based on their tepid attitude toward it as of late, I highly doubt. Allowing CE to continue would, in my opinion, have been a show of good faith to the many Chrono fans SE has neglected for the past several years.

That being said, the CE team made the right decision to comply with SE's demands. I have no doubt SE would have gone forward with some type of legal action, and no matter how much I wish I could have a copy of CE, it would not be worth it for the team to suffer the immense financial and personal consequences for my own entertainment.

chachmeister20,

Yes, you're correct that that CE does violate SE's copyrights, since they're using SE's original work and then modifying it to their own ends. Legally and morally, they were in the right in stopping CE. However, SE's actions in this case show what I've found to be a broad-based problem with companies, particularly software companies: more and more, they are treating their paying customers and fans as criminals, rather than as their bread and butter. One need look no farther than draconian copy protection schemes for all kinds of software.

That being said, the best thing these guys can hope for is for Square to see this and as you said, buy the rights from them and distribute it, or even just buy the story idea, make all the changes they deem necessary and platform it for the Wii. Again, that also seems somewhat farfetched (no offense to the CE team), but at the very least we can watch the playthrough and enjoy what these guys put together, cause it simply is stunning, and I commend them on a job well done. If Square put half the time and effort into this, they would barely even scratch the surface on some of the plot devices and characterization that went into this (and currently, I'm only on part 30!). Excellent job CE team, you guys have given old Chrono Trigger/Cross fans a real treat with this. Brilliant work! Let's hold out for hope Square-Enix just goes "damn, these guys had a good deal going here".

Totalchaoz,

I definitely agree with what you're saying, but a project like this totally undermines the whole point of copyrights. It's an unfair system, and I definitely agree that with no profit intended from this, it's complete and utter crap that these guys aren't even allowed to let others enjoy the fruits of their labor. But what's to stop someone who grabs the ROM from decoding it, putting some of their own stuff in it, and then trying to sell it? Not even just some hack kid from Nowhere, USA, but another gaming company? Someone in another part of the world getting credit and profit for everything the CE crew did where the U.S. copyright laws don't reach? I know, seems unlikely, but that's what the C&D is all about, cause there are some assholes out there willing to spoil the good time for everyone else.

SquEnix really stepped in it, putting a C&D on you guys for this. They don't bother doing anything new with the Chrono series for years, but suddenly when someone wants to pick up the ball they dropped, not for profit no less, they shoot you down. They're like a little kid who has an old toy he never wants to play with until his younger brother wants it. Seriously, they should buy Crimson Echoes off you (for a good rate, given all the fantastic work you put into it) and resell it, instead of spending all their time remaking and reselling FF1 and FF2 for the umpteenth time. I'd be willing to pay $50 for it, just from watching these videos.

You know, if I were the guy who made this, I'd have just given Square Enix a big middle finger and distributed this. Let them send their hit-men, I wouldn't give a fuck. You spent a good five years working on this, and then SE decides to buzz-kill your work cause they're kleptomaniacs? FUCK THEM.

Seriously, man. If you still feel compelled to go with their bullshit C&D order, do at least something to get back at them. They totally deserve it.

Guys and gals, we've been getting a lot of requests for the 98% beta over PM. Please understand that the CE team has made a decision to comply with Square Enix's C&D, and will absolutely not be distributing it. Chrono Trigger: Resurrection never made it into circulation, and neither will this. All we have are the videos and the memories.
--FW

Crimson Echoes was surley ingenious!..I'm sure you get that alot. The guy below me, I also believe they did not completely destroy it -wink winks as well...- How much you want??? lmfao, jk

your CE rocks i loved it. it fits and everything and im pretty sure they did that because you got the idea first and im sure you guys didn't really destroy everything -wink wink- lol but yeah i was awesome i give you guys kudos for the game really really great. wish i could have played it cuz CT is my favorite game ever so maybe someday theyll call you guys to redo it... its really great to have someone come up with what happend between them.