@MrBrownns This is like a abusive parent saying, hey I hit you and smack you all the time... but you wouldn't be fed without me... Is that an argument for the abusive parent?
@badvariance Or perhaps we are a little too driven to "defend a country with force." What if a woman came to power over Mao, Stalin, and Hitler? It would have been a good thing.
@MrBrownns This is like a abusive parent saying, hey I hit you and smack you all the time... but you wouldn't be fed without me... Is that an argument for the abusive parent?