there is no orthodox bahai just bahai

- the Guardian nominates someone, and
- the Hands of the Cause elect from their own number nine, and
- the majority of the 9 chosen Hands agree to the choice in a secret ballot, then
= we have a new Guardian.

If there is no assent from the Hands, there is no new Guardian: it is simple, and clear in the Will and Testament, leaving no room open for doubt, and this one fact refutes all the arguments of all the claimants.

You are the Church of Ephesus. Repent of your ways and accepts the return of Jesus, and the UHJ under the Davidic King. Yet you hate the words of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

I'd like to comment that I am a Baha'i that DOES NOT accept Joel B. Marangella as the authentic Guardian of the Faith. Marangella IS NOT an Aghsan & therefore cannot take up such a position. This is a FALSE GUARDIANSHIP! Mason Remey did not adopt him, therefore, he cannot create make his claims.

In respect to some of the comments spoken here, I'd like to say that there's "only 40" of such "covenant breakers" isn't accurate at all. In fact, none of the numbers many Baha'is might give are really accurate. The number of Baha'is who identify with the break in the Sacred Writings with respect to the Guardianship cannot be ignored. When the Sacred Writings say that the Guardianship COULD potentially end--that is prophetic verses on the fate that the BLOODLINE ascendancy of the Branches (Aghsans) would indeed end. However, this possible stagnation (which has happened or is happening) in the Guardianship is obviously possible--but all points is that it IS to be established forever as part of the Baha'i Faith Covenant!!

Allahu Abha

The "Center of the Cause" is truly the Guardianship or executive branch President designated to work harmoniously with the legislative 9 elected council members. This Guardianship is fulfilled through the establishment, through His Imminence Shoghi Effendi Rabbani, of the BIC, which he wrote would be the embryonic Universal House of Justice (with the Guardian or President) being established & leading the Administration. The only Branch (descendant of Baha'u'llah) that could possibly fulfill the presidency of the UHJ executive branch authority is Abdu'l-Baha's adopted son.

Allahu' Abha :)

In book of Aghdas Baha'ullah said:feed your family first than if you have more give them to your relative than if any left give that to poors.(in fasting rule section)poor say to him oh my glory Baha thanks for all your left over LoL, please don't get angry that is in Baha most hooly book of Aghdas look up is there , Jesus said give everything you have to the poor so you can walk in to kingdom of God ,not your left over,i guss Baha son of royalty couldn't feel what is mean to be hungry and down.

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Notice how all of these covenant breakers videos are all against the beloved Universal House of Justice.

Now, do you see Baha'is doing videos against covenant breakers?

These guys are in danger of being extinct (40 followers in the U.S.) and they are getting desperate.

You should check out covenant breaker "hands of the cause" to see prime examples of 21st century pitiful attempts at covenant breaking.

Seriously guys...Yaḥyá did a much better job than you and he didn't have internet.

Peace

They are one of the covenant-breaker sects in the USA. They belive that there are further guardians after Shoghi Effendi, even though the Kitáb-i-Aqdas, the Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Bahá, the Handy of the Cause and the Universal House of Justice clearly states that this is not possible. So be aware of them Bahá'ís.

Very Nice ,Thanks

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but what is orthodox Bahai?