I agree the buildings probably could have withstood being hit by the planes, but there is the matter of the jet fuel. As to the bombs being installed with the alarm system wouldn't you think people working on other systems since it was installed might have noticed all the explosives. Hell people noticing people working in areas they shouldn't have been? No they're all part of the conspiracy right and nobody felt guilty about what they did and kept their silence. Maybe they were murdered too?
Silverstein reworked the insurance policy for WTC because that's what any smart investor would do. "Making sure if was covered for acts of terrorism".....this would seem suspicious to me if the Trade Center hadn't already been targeted by terrorists in 1993. 4.68 billion awarded to SPI but ironically enough the estimated cost of rebuilding (including clean-up and furnishing) is around 31.5 billion--not including 10 yrs of lost revenue...please take this into consideration before demonizing him
@blackjerryboymetal Lol dude I fuckin love you! I've finally found someone who doesn't drink the kool aid. I always tell people congress voted for the war in Iraq and the always say "no they didn't.". That's just a claim they make to demonize US troops and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of these fucks calling me a murderer and a coward just cause I'm in the army.
The top two comments look like either a foreign hadji wrote it, or a 4 year old. From my experience in and around the military, I don't recall any soldier killing a civilian, that's what the extremists do.
(Al-E-Imran) Say, (O Muhammad, to mankind): If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (31)
Criminals is the word that comes to mind when I think about the present administration. The Federal Reserve as well as the Treasury is CORRUPT. TIME TO DISMANTLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO NOT FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. It is high time to bring The Declaration of Independance back. Read the Redemption Manual 4th Edition pdf (Google it). KNOW YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE....
0.12 Moisture free steam. Moisture free steam. Moisture. Steam. Moisture. Steam. Is that guy high? I hope I never walk into a building he's fit pipe in.
There is a videotaped account of 9/11 NYC that is from one videographer, from one vantage point that is in real-time, and captures all but the first strike, an over two hour account.. with footage minutes before the North Tower was even struck. It was released after 9 years and is available on dvd. It is taped from one of the most iconic vanage points. It is the most inclusive account known to exist, and is positioning for a feature release for all this year: 'Tuesday Morning in September'.
Where to the truthers find these people? do they just go to the first bar and find the dumbest drunk there and give them a script to read? If you people dont like the U.S. Government then feel free to GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!
9/11 was a massive conspiracy between elements of the bush administration and multi billionaire businessmen like Silverstein. So many powerful people have proifited from 9/11, not least, George Bush himself. It's about time Bush was held to account for indirectly killing 3000 of his fellow citizens.
@taylorhendrickson1 thats because we have a representative democracy in which we must vote for the best candidate, but we had no good candidates to choose from in the beginning it was just a group of bad choices and you must pick out from them. if we had a direct democracy in which we all have in the lawmaking where citizens rule power over the gov this place would be pretty hectic but at least we wouldnt have tyrants taking lives away just for oil and money.
VladTepes is a Moslem faggot, living in France, who constantly spams the same comments on every Youtube site he can find. Check his web page -- this identical comment shows up in multiples -- it's his only posting.
Mark him as SPAM. He's just covering for his Moslem butt-buddies.
I can't believe the insurance company coughed up for this,that Silverfish Silverstein knows alot about this and i can't believe the government are not questioning all these rich Zionists in their gov and banking sector as these are the people behind this whole criminal atrocity also i wonder how much of that $7 billion insurance payout Silverstein donated to all the sick workers at the clean up site,i'll bet zero
What would you say if I told you I have picture of ground zero during the clean up that were most likely taken nearer to September 21, 2001! None show any melted steel beams, most of the beams in these pictures are straight, with a few being slightly bent. The jet fuel burned of at impact, and jet fuel is nothing more than Kerosene!
@edwardtang1977 your saying you wouldnt get pissed if people the audacity to call you a mass murderer of your own people. That the government wouldnt be personally offended by it.
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Hilarious shit.
These Truthie jerkoffs think that a government that couldn't keep Clinton's blowjob secret (with no witnesses at all) somehow managed to pull off the largest, most complex conspiracy in history, and thousands of people kept it secret for 8 yrs.
@ChopperSix hey asshole, you are an idiot and obviously you do not know shit. do you know about the freemasons and their goals..? do you know that war is buisness for Halliburton and many other corporations that profit from it... you are a jerkoff for believing everything you see on t.v. ... i'd bet that if you see a magician making magic tricks like pulling a rabbit out of a hat , you would believe that the magician has really magical powers you dumb fuck.. fuck off you are just a moron.
so governments lie! WOW!! who would have thought it. Doesn't mean you believe every bullshit conspiracy theory going. Bush couldn't arrange a piss up in a brewery yet he masterminded the greatest deception of all time????? WTF???? Get real.
The world trade center was insured by AIG for terrorism only a few moths prior to 9/11.. An interesting fact is that AIG was recently given 175 Billion by the federal govt. in the corporate bail-outs. There was no stipulation that the money had to be paid back and AIG arrogantly continued to award bonuses to it;s ceo's and throw lavish parties at tax payer expense. Sounds like pay-back to me!
Watch the History Channel program all you conspiracy morons! Steel loses half it's strength at 1,100 degrees. Instead of having prospective NFL players take the Wonderlic Test, they should just ask them if they think 9-11 was a conspiracy or not. If they answer "yes" then they FAIL the test. Hopefully they run the 40 in 4.3 because I don't want a slow idiot on my team.
@BladeJones Sorry Mr. Jones but steel doesn't change until 2600 degrees. Other building around the world burned for days and never fell. YES DAYS! It's not the Free Masons, or the Illumnoti, its a group of the rich of the richest called Builderberg. They have secret meetings around the world and discuss how they are going to change what industry in what country next. The first thing was to gain control of all money, Hence the Central Banking of all Nation, and the death of the Gold Standard.
9 11 press for truth please go to my page look up my playlist and look for that film i made into a playlist thats a very good film and please if you wish share it with all your friends on twitter facebook myspace etc etc!!!
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many times has Loose Change been edited for errors and re-released?
If WTC 1 & 2 were destroyed by demolition & not by fire, how do you explain video of the exterior columns buckling under heat and stress loads 15 minutes after impact?
Since demolition experts estimated it would take over 100 men 4-6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7, how come no one witnessed any strange activity of strange boxes?
and you have every rite to ask these questions you just stated here. All im tryign to do is make people think for themselfs and stop just goign with whatever they are told. ctcole77 please go to my page and look up all my playlists watch a few of them the ones that catch your eye just please think for yourself a lil more if your not doing it already!!
@ctcole77 The elevators were being "upgraded". This was a major construction project. How come the professor was fired from Berkley because he said he found thermite in the dust from the fall of WTC's? I have pictures of the debris of 9-11 and I see NO twisted or melted steel. My cousin was a Trucker hauling away the debris. He said they were finding supports angle cut as they were exposed. No torchmen went before him!
Listen, think, consider, and question everything, "BOTH" ways. And most of all - have a little humbleness here, will you? We do not know what really happened that day, whatever the angle you see it from, and whatever proof you think you have. I stand on objective soil in this matter, and I've studied every piece of material regarding "9-11" I could come across - and I still do not feel I know THE TRUTH. Calm down your mind, and reconsider your view?
BULLSHIT!!!! I can smell it a mile away and Youtube is overflowing with it. The crazier the conspiracy theory the more likely the kids (and the vast majority on youtube are kids) are to believe it earnestly.
Remember people with schitzophrenia REALLY BELIEVE in stuff that isn't real too. Doesn't make it real.
(please copy and paste the above message on every conspiracy theory page on youtube til it eats itself)
"Remember people with schitzophrenia REALLY BELIEVE in stuff that isn't real too."
ok boy, so u believe, that in shanksville (and pentagon) a REAL PLANE CRASHED VERY REAL IN THE GROUND.
Yea, its REAL because its on TV.
so i think that u are the schizo one..
oh my good u are just one another idiot of the 70%stupididiotblindpeople who believes in everything what they get told. get education man.. or go play on the highway, maybe its fun there...
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why aren’t truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?
If there was no flight 77, please explain the over 130 witnesses who saw a plane?
Ok, one main point is that the "truther" movement is quite varied and many people believe many different things. There're guys who say there were no planes, the terrorists were working for the CIA, the terrorists were just scapegoats, the planes were distractions, thermite bombs, etc. Asking a question to all truthers is like asking all christians why they are against using condoms (catholic reference). I'd answer you too, but character count's a bitch here.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's 1202 architectural and engineering professionals have experience in structural engineering, high rise construction, or controlled demolition?
What did Hani Hanjour’s flight instructors have to say about his flying ability?
Who was Ali Mohamed and what is his relationship with Osama Bin Laden and the CIA?
@ctcole77 anyone who does not swallow the whole official storyline about 9/11 lock, stock and barrel is labeled a 9/11 truther, implying that one believes every one of the most outrageous stories about holographic planes, or space aliens, or whatever. this is a fraudulent tactic, designed to discredit anyone who questions the official storyline. There is no official set of beliefs that define a so-called 9/11 truther - the term itself is a very poor and inaccurate one, one of convenience.
a plane flies fuckin fast! you dont need explosives to cut threw steal witha damn plane! the pres. before bush thought there was going to be a attack thats why the guy put insurance on it, its common sence. and if bush didi it then wat the hell was his motivation? he likes to blow shit up and watch thousands of people die?! you all are fucked up!!!
So, US troops, under the Bush administration, killed thousands of iraq citizens.... for... nothing? What was the real interest of Mr Bush & friends in invading Iraq, in violation of internation law?
BILLIONS (1 billion = 1000 millions) of dollars have been spent ... to make benefit Texan Oil companies, and Bush friends, who owns these companies?? US Debt increased... american people are suffering from the crisis, with no help from the Bush administration... Good Mr Bush is no longer President
@vladtepes10000 Yea basically fucking our lives just for oil and money for his friends businesses , look up a video its an interview with iraq's president or some gov official saying how everyone in iraq knew osama was in DC with the Bush family when all this went down and the moment he said this the interviewer from the u.s cut him off and changed the subject saying it was a preposterous statement to bring up.
@vladtepes10000 it was not for nothing but the real reason is not what you where led to believe. Follow the money...who would gain? Just ask honest questions that occur to you to ask. Don't take anyones word for it, just do your own research.
@vladtepes10000 its simple, america was expanding their underground empire. building a new military base in iraq. thats all. most likely to be a launch pad for the next war: Iran
@vladtepes10000 Wouldn't Bush's friends profit from drilling for oil here and not overseas? Why didn't they just frame someone in Iraq's intelligence service so they could invade Iran and not Afghanistan where there is no oil?
A lot of these explosions heard inside the buildings were probably due to high-voltage transformers either cooking off from heat, or getting shorted out when the wiring was torn up, either from the plane damage, or collapsing building sections.
If you haven't heard a high-voltage transformer blow, Google up some examples on Youtube or elsewhere. It's like a damned cannon, or an antitank mine.
"Was this mysterious, silent explosives, developed by the Illuminati & Jew bankers?"
Apparently nos1r's new theory is that the people inside the WTC and right outside heard the explosion(s), but the people a few miles away were too scared shitless to notice a couple of tons of explosives going off.
You sir, are a fucking clown. Don't pretend to tell me what my "theory" is.
If you want to get down to it. It is said that the beams were cut with Thermite, which actually DOESN'T make a large BOOM.
I'm still laughing because you are siding with those that called for "witnesses that were miles away". IF you won't even admit that that is pretty fucking retarded then I'm not really interested in what you have to say.
Were there masses of panic stricken people, fire engines, police, ambulances, and general bedlam breaking out in the streets when you watched this controlled demo?
No?
Sorry but I don't subscribe to this "Witnesses that were far away" conspiracy theory. If you were to go into court room and tell the judge that all of your star witnesses happened to be the people FURTHEST from the incident, and none of them happened to hear anything, you would be laughed out of the courtroom.
Smarter? How are you being smarter than truther? You use no FACTS to back up your statements...
None.
At all.
You make a bunch of assumptions while claiming that your statements are based in logic. And then when that fails you the first thing you do is run and hide behind some random person with a Ph.D, and when THAT fails you resort to hurling insults.
If you promised to do some research,
I'll promise to stop pointing out that you haven't researched anything for yourself.
interesting video. strange at end where biulding owner said to ""pull it"take biuling 7 down? it takes a lot of time to set up the wiring for demolition since fire will not take down steel and cement structure, also firemen are not trained demolition contractors obviosly. the work has to be preset or you have to have an army of people to do that on standby? I figiure a billionare should be able to pay for better classes on how to lie using truthfull facts hahaha.then again most people are stupid
Moisture free steam? And his proof is that a fire that would have burned a good deal hotter melted pipes that could take 800 degrees with no problems. Wow.
9/11 is the same example for the so called german war it was funded by the same elite groups who started the war and finished the war so really no one lost the war or won the war, the holocaust was created for only one reason to suppress humanity but not the zionist jews or in other words it was the zionist that created the holocaust war, and who was the one funding the war the central bank of america which is ran by the rockefeller family,central bank of a USA gave 20million to german in ww
i don't believe bush was in charge of this at all. i won't completely throw away the idea of a conspiracy, but why would bush do it? why? no one has ever been able to explain why bush would do something like this. but i don't buy that at all. but i could believe the conspiracy theory, i just need more proof.
Possibly for power? Or maybe as a distraction so the world would focus on that instead of...something else? I don't know, I'm just throwing up ideas. I'm not sure I buy into the whole conspiracy idea, but I do find it interesting.
i think it's because, it's a great reason to back up having a war in the middle east, wouldn't you be pissed if you lost Family and Friends because "terrorist" killed them? wouldn't you want "revenge?" many americans joined the military after being told that terrorist were involved, and congress approved the invasion of Iraq, i guess its the powerful and cheap way to confiscate the Middle East's Oil... his family is involved the Oil Business.
Your lack of English skills and complete ignorance of history pretty much gives away the fact that you're a fourteen-year-old twat that will be taking Wood Shop instead of Physics & Calculus.
why are you so butt hurt? did one of your family members die in 9/11? all you do is: get pissed at people that are stating their opinions on a youtube video.
people get butt hurt over it because when you put "terrorist" and "revenge" in quotations like that, not only do you make it look like you're saying terrorists aren't capable of hijacking a plane and ramming it into one of the tallest buildings in the world (which mostly everyone agree is possible), you give the people who are responsible for the massacre a pass. Even if you didn't lose someone in 911 it sounds despicable. And you have yet to name another suspect so what the fuck.
Its not that much people necessary. You just need A handfull, and some, which dont know all, just do their work, but not getting the whole picture. For people with money and power its no problem to manage this.
You knew as well, that WTC was full of asbestos? And a caculation to fix this all, was a couple of hundreds millions dollars? So whats easier AND more rentable? destroy, get the money of the insurance, build new and get a big profit! A couple of lifes? just numbers, not important at all!
As for the physics end of it, I have not said anything that would require one to know any high degree of physics, simply that WTC7 fell at free fall speed. Which it did.
You should of learned the formula for calculating free fall speed in the 9th grade...
As for explosives. I have no clue about that. What I do know is that what I am being told happened by the government COULDN'T of happened.
Last thing I would like to point out is your excessive use of referring to "experts".
When someone is overly dependent on the work of "experts" all they are really saying is: "No, I don't want to think. Could you just find someone to do the thinking for me?"
And if you want to play the "credibility" card. All I have to say is, in a climate where you can lose your job, status, or "credibility" for saying the wrong thing, the mere state of being "credentialed" makes your claims suspect.
"the mere state of being "credentialed" makes your claims suspect"
So this is your excuse for the fact that no structural engineer in the WORLD will embarrass himself by backing up any of the Truther claims? Even the N. Korean, Chinese, or Iranian struct. engrs (who really love Bush & America) ?
Not a theory, it's a fact. I hate to bring this up as an example, but could you trust credentialed historians and scientists in Nazi Germany when it came to Jews?
NO, OF COURSE NOT.
Why? Because if they said the wrong thing they would lose their position and possibly their life.
This same sort of climate exists around the official story of 9/11. If you, as a scientist, go against it, you are labeled "insane" and marginalized. The accuracy of your findings plays no mitigating factor in this.
And on the note of marginalization, the fact that you would even be bold enough to say "no Structural Engineer in the WORLD would embarrass" demonstrates it completely.
Not, not many would, specifically for the fact that they WOULD be attacked with claims such as "they are embarrassing themselves".
I mean, you speak as if Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth isn't a REAL organization. Or wait, is that also just a conspiracy theory?
No Truther does, which is why they swallow this thermite bullshit.
I'll make it simple:
It wasn't an explosive of ANY type, since no loud BOOM was heard all over Manhattan. No explosives -- none.
Thermite doesn't make much noise, but it can't be used for controlled demo, and never has been. Ever. Its corrosive action cannot be timed to the split second (obviously), which makes it useless for this.
"DOZENS of people that claim they heard explosions"
Yeah -- mostly INSIDE or right next to the buildings. Big surprise, with collapsing floors & exploding diesel tanks, propane, acetylene, CO2, NO2, etc.
How about MILES away, like with any controlled demo?
Zero. Zip. Nada.
Drag up all your brain power and see if you can tell the difference.
They kept diesel, propane, acetylene, CO2, and NO2 tanks in the upper stories of the World Trade Towers? Or do you mean the ones that were reportedly in the basement? Are you going to try to tell me that the plane in fact hit the bottom of the building?
And I find it funny how you are asking for WITNESSES that were MILES away.
Drag up all of your brainpower and think about that.
You want WITNESSES that were MILES AWAY.
Fuck the ones that were RIGHT THERE! You want MILES AWAY.
"diesel, propane, acetylene, CO2, and NO2 tanks in the upper stories"
Medical & dental offices, maintenance areas (located every 5 - 6 floors), restaurants (like the giant WoW on the top floor), snack bars, office kitchens.
Plus all the emerg. generators backing up separate corporate offices and infrastructure (elevators, emergency lighting systems, etc)
Controlled demos are ALWAYS heard miles away. That's what he refers to.
You're talking about people INSIDE and close by. Irrelevant.
Sorry, I'm going to need to see evidence of your claims of "Medical and Dental offices" and I find your claims of "Restaurants" existing within the towers to be utterly ridiculous. You are starting to sound like a Moonbat conspiracy theorist.
"I find your claims of "Restaurants" existing within the towers to be utterly ridiculous"
Because, like most Truthers, you're too lazy to even use Google:
tinyurl (DOT) com/mewxqp
"After the terrorist attacks, the Windows workers and others from food businesses and corporate cafeterias at the World Trade Center formed a nonprofit organization called The Restaurant Opportunities Center of New York"
I used to pick stuff up from law offices in both buildings, and I never saw a law firm that didn't have its own little kitchen and cooking area - stove, fridge, cabinets, tables & chairs.
I saw the board in the lobby enough times to know there were medical and dental offices, but didn't count them.
Most hi-rises have lots of medical and dental since it's guaranteed customers in the building.
"I just checked what you said and it turned out to be complete bullshit"
Checked, my ass. You can't come up with anything that says the asbestos had to be removed from the WTC because it DIDN'T, something even beginners here know.
He caught your lie, and you run away like a typical truther pussy.
sorry, blueshark. I just try to find the truth for myself, ok? I am angry, confused. And i am not alone. Its a big movement. There are evidences, cant remember where i saw this, that there was asbestos in the buildings. And in thousands of buildings the Asbestos had to be removed, cause of the danger for the health. Everywhere, but not in the WTC?
And please, try to be sober. Doesn't look good, when you attack other people with a other opinion than you have. Thats fascism
This is pretty good but check out the video on my channel guys its even better in my own opinion the only thing that was left out of this was the ELEVEN conspiracies
The air frame of a 747 is made of aluminum. The skin is aluminum sheet rivited to the air frame. The structial supports of the TT were steel. Also from my machine tool expeience I know that machining properties fo alum. hot and cold rolled steel. So the next time you tear off the aluminum foil from the grill, be careful that foil don't destroy the grate since the Gov. says that the air frame and heat caused the whole building 1, 2, & 7 to fail! Imagine no heat sink effect from other floors?
"the Gov. says that the air frame and heat caused the whole building 1, 2, & 7 to fail"
And every published engineering analysis, by engineers from countries all over the world, says that the combination of plane impacts and the uncontrollable fires (fuel and office contents), caused the collapse.
JFK did 2 things tha got hime killed, he was pulling the troups out of Nam by 1965, and printed $4.25billion using our silver reserves. He told Marlin who wrote this in her missing journal. When JFK was killed, Marlin told Bobby. Bobby acepted the nom, and before he cold get ou the building, he was dead! MILITARY bases in the middle east. An army trained in urban warfare, to be sent ANYWHERE to quell the disidents. Connect the dots! For the people to be behind the Gov to engauge in War!
im open to all ideas and i think more info is needed not just theorys spinning around.
the part i dont get is if bombs were put in the building this would have needed time like weeks to prepare as first you would need people to go through alot of the floors planting the bombs and hiding them and wiring them and connecting all of them up. im neither pro or against the conspiracy but real scientists and educated people need to to study the whole thing.
Soniq, thats a good point, I had similar doubts untill I've seen a Vid in which some of the occupants of WTC (SURVIVORS) reported to have heard drilling noises in early mornings and late nigths for weeks.
WTC is not the matter of concern if one wishes to study WTC conspiracy. The real and evident grey area is Pentegon. Sometimes I refuse to belive it is not a inside Job. But the everytime I look the clips or think about at the Pentagon, I end up thinking otherwise..
Italy's former President Francesco Cossiga has told Italy's "most respected newspaper" [Corriere della Sera] that the 9-11 attacks "were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies."
the 911 attacks do puzzle me as there is not good enough evidence to support conspiracy theorists yet there are alot of un answered questions. your correct on the pentagon attack it looks sus.
thats realy disturbing if your own government can do such horid things. id like to see this investigated properly
Not as much as you would think! Arron Russo was told about 911 by Nick Rockfeller 11 months before it happened! Think those elevator upgraders might have been up to no good for the 9 months they upgraded those evevators? While a Bush Family memeber was the head of security at TWC.
i know what your saying and im open to ideas but i cant understand how the so called 911 conspiracy to blow up the towers could be planned and acheived..do you know how much time you would need plus all the people you would need to organise this tragedy? im surprised even if the conspiracy did happen why hasnt any info been leaked by numbers people who have had to set the plans,bomb experts,flight pilots,cia, who supposedly involved?
this sort of conspiracy plan would need alot of people.
OMG. people that think 9/11 happened are stupid. i live in carolina and i can assure you that 9/11 never happened. all three towers are still there. 9/11 was a ghey conspiracy by bush so that he could invade iraq and force them to supply wal mart with cheaper products every day. i know this. bush told me. im his dad.
ctcole77 is walking proof that intellect is NOT education! MD13 The steel was hauled to a scrap yard and destroyed! My cousin was driving one of the trucks! Not a year later, as it came from the cleanup! He also told me that the basement was full of melted steel to the point that some of the slag ran into the hall! Follow the money to the Fed! They are getting all that interest loaning the US worthless paper. NWO get a base in the mid east, army practices live fire urban warfare!
Mad Dog 13: While cleanup was being done, there was a photo of about 20 beams angle cut jutting out of debries!
And between the first plane ans the second plane, there were people 2 women and a man inside in the hole left by the plane! No evidence of this mass fire. They didn't seem too worried or in a hurry to get out of that area! Kerosene just isn't that volitile! Same fuel used for torpedio heaters! Didn't see flames inside hole either, so where is the mass fire?
But again, I could go on. The 9/11 truth movement is a crock that failed long ago. You've had 8 years and you've proven nothing and what you think you proved, you've just lied.
rino: your very arguments are flawed, illogical, and flat out wrong
The steel was kept for well over a year, examined by thousands of people, out in the open.
There WAS NO molten steel. The picture you're most likely referencing was a picture whose color was tampered with. The glow was actually a flash light.
The beams were cut as part of GETTING THE BUILDING OFF OF THE SITE. That's how you move things, YOU CUT THEM.
I used to believe in Thermite and Molten Metal - and I though Sofia, Steven E Jones and others were helping us to find the truth.
Sadly, this now seems not the be the case as they, like NIST, are unable to explain the evidence. Google Hurricane Erin and 9/11 or look at my videos if you are interested to know more.
Magnet dragon 13: Architects and physicists are looking into the fall time! Until the scientific data was concluded, the debris are to be stored by law, yet they were destroyed, illegally! How come the spars at the base were all angle cut (clean up photos). Explain the mouton steel in the basement! How does jet fuel burn so hot as to melt steel? Jet fuel is just D1, or kerosene, which is less volatile than gasoline. How come other buildings which had more damage didn't fall?
Dressed Mary: The Feds destoyed the debris befor any true scientific data coul be obtained! The building started colapsong, adn I started a stopwatch 6.379 seconds fro the start of colapse to the end of colapse! This is a average speed of 147 MPH! This is near freefall speedand since it started aout from 0 I'll bet it well went over 160 MPH! Where does this fit in to your seismic data? Rooftop to ground1368 ft. /6.4 sec. =147 MPH! Explain why the standing didn't offer resistance?
The seismic record from Columbia University's observatory in Palisades, NY (21 miles away) provides indisputable proof that massive explosions brought down those towers. At the precise moment the South Tower began collapsing, a 2.1 earthquake registered on the seismograph. At the precise moment the North Tower began collapsing, a 2.3 earthquake registered; however, as the buildings started to crumble these waves disappeared. Your info is spoonfed...open your eyes and find out 4 yourself.
4. 9/11 truthers are the last people who think freely. Look at your leaders, question their motivations. Who DIRECTLY makes money off of your belief? How many things does Alex Jones sell on his site? Jim Marrs? Jim Fetzer? AE911? Something to think about. (and before you start the "well, your government makes money off of 9/11, dur dur dur, bs", its conjecture and based on what one believes actually happened. Your leaders get your cash directly sent to them. Not the same thing.)
Mary Drecin13: Your done arguing, but you are like the Goverment, You talk on for ever and say NOTHING! Answer my question! "What does seismic data have to do with speed of fall? " Seismic data tells how much the earth shook! You could hide musch in seismic data! BTW ther Mary did you know that the elevators underwent a total upgrade? I must say that you must be a fed agent debunking people who think freely? Hum imagine that NO free thinking?
rino: Oh, making my name into a girls', oh, you got me. Woohoo, did I get burned there. If I ever give a shit, I'll be sure to tell you how I feel about that. Don't wait up, though.
1. do you even understand seismic data?
2. show proof of this upgrade, and how it factored into a controlled demo. and....go.
3. Oh, I disagree with crackpot theories, so I must work for the gov. Never heard that before. FAIL of an argument
Ummm, no. The investigation showed what really happened and that some people wouldn't believe in air. Its not my fault people believe garbage like conspiracy theories and can't back them up whatsoever.
troops killed since 9/11 and this video - which i think is off since fighting has gone on...
civilians killed during 9/11 -- which i think that number is rounded up, wikipedia has a slightly lower number of 2,974 - which doesn't include the 19 hijackers
Hey MaryDrecin 13: What does seismic data have to do with speed of fall? Seismic data is how much impact was recorded! Did you personally retreive the seismic data from the recording machines? DId you see it first hand
I also suppose you got to vote on the seatbelt law, manditory Insurance, and the AIG Group bonuses! Because my government says so, it is written in concrete! What a maroon! Thats right MAROON, because you are too thickheaded to be just a moron!
And this is based on what proof? Where's the proof? Where's the science? Where's the engineering? Where's the FACTS. Accusations are wondrous things, anything can be claimed, but only true things can be proven.
Don't tell me its raining and not show me puddles.
Oh, and citing the American Free Press is like citing craigslist ads, they have the same journalistic merit.
magnes i would love to see the science, proof, and engineering you have found to back up your statement! Bet you will not find on scientist not associated by the government stating the same words you claim to call "FACTS"
So do you know anything about physics or are you just winging it at this point?
First, your argument was that they fell at "near free fall speed". They didn't.
Now you're saying the lower floors didn't put up much resistance if they fell in 15 seconds. 1. its not free fall speed 2. you have to take into account the pancaking of floors (1 falls onto 2, 1 and 2 fall onto 3, 1 2 and 3 fall onto 4, 1 2 3 and 4 fall onto 5 and so on) and how much momentum that creates, plus factoring in gravity.
It's funny how you leave out the nano-thermite that was found in the dust.. if you've actually looked into both sides. you can find quite a few well known scientists now unemployed for making their evidence known.. Why would the government need to hide the fact that explosives were used? don't be hypocritical when it comes to physics either because the pancake theory wouldn't work on a STEEL building! You're an idiot.
110 floors of steel in 15 seconds isn't free falling? GET REAL! Also did you know there is ALSO scientific evidence that the chances of the heat getting high enough to even BEND steel in that situation are extremely unlikely to happen... Now when you DOUBLE those chances, what do you get?.. it is physically impossible! back to physics with ya :D
I AM some guy on youtube, but I'm not saying listen to me, I'm saying listen to THE EXPERTS WHO SHOW HOW THESE THEORIES ARE BUNK. Do so actual research, learn some science, don't go with the "I agree with it, so it must be true" crowd.
Wrong again. I've done the research (and continue to do so), I've looked at independent sources, structural engineers, clean up crew, firefighters, you know, people who actually know what they're talking about (and aren't named Alex "government did it" Jones) and I've came to my own conclusion that these conspiracy claims are bunk. Look at the science, look at the math, look at the engineering, it's all there. These paranoid ravings are nothing by madness set to a catchphrase.
Amazing how they think we're absolute idiots lol If the medias story made any sense what so ever, than 60% of americans wouldn't belive 9/11 was an inside job. The people who don't know that truth, simply can't comprehend the idea because they're brainwashed, or they didn't take enough time looking at the ACTUAL evidence. They're basing their facts on something that has no proof behind it and preach it to us like they have no doubt in their mind they may be wrong. Pure ignorance ..
The NWO depends on people being labeled as nutcases! Anonymity is their greatest weapon. Follow the money. The Fed wants it all! They won't stop until we are all chipped, meaning the V-Chip! I thought like you at one time, until doing research in a totally different area led me here! True Fact! I believe Nick Rockefeller did tell Aaron Russo that 9/11 was a hoax to get military bases in the Middle East! REMEMBER You heard it here first but the next place we will invade will be Venezuela!
I agree the buildings probably could have withstood being hit by the planes, but there is the matter of the jet fuel. As to the bombs being installed with the alarm system wouldn't you think people working on other systems since it was installed might have noticed all the explosives. Hell people noticing people working in areas they shouldn't have been? No they're all part of the conspiracy right and nobody felt guilty about what they did and kept their silence. Maybe they were murdered too?
WhiteTrashBarbarian 4 weeks ago
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Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 3 months ago
Silverstein reworked the insurance policy for WTC because that's what any smart investor would do. "Making sure if was covered for acts of terrorism".....this would seem suspicious to me if the Trade Center hadn't already been targeted by terrorists in 1993. 4.68 billion awarded to SPI but ironically enough the estimated cost of rebuilding (including clean-up and furnishing) is around 31.5 billion--not including 10 yrs of lost revenue...please take this into consideration before demonizing him
615guitarplayer 4 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Lol dude I fuckin love you! I've finally found someone who doesn't drink the kool aid. I always tell people congress voted for the war in Iraq and the always say "no they didn't.". That's just a claim they make to demonize US troops and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of these fucks calling me a murderer and a coward just cause I'm in the army.
xtremejohnny69 6 months ago
The top two comments look like either a foreign hadji wrote it, or a 4 year old. From my experience in and around the military, I don't recall any soldier killing a civilian, that's what the extremists do.
xtremejohnny69 6 months ago
LOVE IS ALL WE NEED
568popcorn 9 months ago
Do this, pass it on and you are then a soldier of L.O.V.E
568popcorn 9 months ago
(Al-E-Imran) Say, (O Muhammad, to mankind): If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (31)
568popcorn 9 months ago
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568popcorn 9 months ago
Will you join Michael and I in The Army of L.O.V.E?
568popcorn 9 months ago
Criminals is the word that comes to mind when I think about the present administration. The Federal Reserve as well as the Treasury is CORRUPT. TIME TO DISMANTLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO NOT FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. It is high time to bring The Declaration of Independance back. Read the Redemption Manual 4th Edition pdf (Google it). KNOW YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE....
psalm91forgee 11 months ago
ok well thats not much evidence there to get people to believe bush had part in an inside job 911
RandyFoxKiller 11 months ago
quit bulking out the videos with music...
DropDeadLeaa 1 year ago
0.12 Moisture free steam. Moisture free steam. Moisture. Steam. Moisture. Steam. Is that guy high? I hope I never walk into a building he's fit pipe in.
KidMeatball 1 year ago
There is a videotaped account of 9/11 NYC that is from one videographer, from one vantage point that is in real-time, and captures all but the first strike, an over two hour account.. with footage minutes before the North Tower was even struck. It was released after 9 years and is available on dvd. It is taped from one of the most iconic vanage points. It is the most inclusive account known to exist, and is positioning for a feature release for all this year: 'Tuesday Morning in September'.
tuesmorninginsept 1 year ago
Where to the truthers find these people? do they just go to the first bar and find the dumbest drunk there and give them a script to read? If you people dont like the U.S. Government then feel free to GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!!
GhOsTvAmP06 1 year ago
MURDERERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gringapolska 1 year ago
I've just realised that truthers are one of the most boring groups of blow-hards ever seen on Earth.
Resenbrink 1 year ago
9/11 was a massive conspiracy between elements of the bush administration and multi billionaire businessmen like Silverstein. So many powerful people have proifited from 9/11, not least, George Bush himself. It's about time Bush was held to account for indirectly killing 3000 of his fellow citizens.
parttimelaver 1 year ago
why were many of the f16s or fighter planes so far far away?arizona i think. practise run was it?
BigWillyBrennan 1 year ago
why were many of the f16s or fighter planes so far far away?arizona i think.
BigWillyBrennan 1 year ago
LOGICAL CONCLUSION:
WTC: A PERFECT DEMOLITION WORK WITH THERMITE AND TNT.
THE IMPACT OF AIRCRAFT: NOT SHEAR THE STRUCTURE OF STEEL AND NOT PULVERIZE CONCRETE.
QUESTIONS:
- quantity of explosives needed to implode the towers?
- WHO, WHEN AND HOW TO SUCH HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES WERE INSTALLED?
- AS A HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES Wander into the WTC without being detected?
- WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY OF WTC AND WHO WERE DOING PART OF THE TEAM OF SECURITY?
WawsestilL 1 year ago
WTC: AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, THE ORGANIZED CRIMINALS
(THE REAL SECRET NORTH-AMERICAN SOCIETY) HAS ABILITY TO DO TO ACHIEVE ITS OBJECTIVES...
- CALL THE SUPERMAN!!!!
WawsestilL 1 year ago
obama busch everybody that was pres are war profetiers and liars
taylorhendrickson1 1 year ago
@taylorhendrickson1 thats because we have a representative democracy in which we must vote for the best candidate, but we had no good candidates to choose from in the beginning it was just a group of bad choices and you must pick out from them. if we had a direct democracy in which we all have in the lawmaking where citizens rule power over the gov this place would be pretty hectic but at least we wouldnt have tyrants taking lives away just for oil and money.
TheKtran95 1 year ago
Black water had access through Marvin Bush. They had months to prepare with full access to the whole building.
onewholearth 1 year ago
Fucking Coors light commercial, I don't want to stare a some dudes ass and a dog's butt when I'm trying watch a video!
TheAlexander356 1 year ago
@vladtepes10000
VladTepes is a Moslem faggot, living in France, who constantly spams the same comments on every Youtube site he can find. Check his web page -- this identical comment shows up in multiples -- it's his only posting.
Mark him as SPAM. He's just covering for his Moslem butt-buddies.
pilot101st 1 year ago
I can't believe the insurance company coughed up for this,that Silverfish Silverstein knows alot about this and i can't believe the government are not questioning all these rich Zionists in their gov and banking sector as these are the people behind this whole criminal atrocity also i wonder how much of that $7 billion insurance payout Silverstein donated to all the sick workers at the clean up site,i'll bet zero
73mandala 1 year ago
What would you say if I told you I have picture of ground zero during the clean up that were most likely taken nearer to September 21, 2001! None show any melted steel beams, most of the beams in these pictures are straight, with a few being slightly bent. The jet fuel burned of at impact, and jet fuel is nothing more than Kerosene!
rino1359 1 year ago
wow the last few moments of that vid were sobering!
pinchej 1 year ago
who has the knowledge that the air forces won't be able to respond on that day? How did the terriosts know that?
how come two planes hitting from different directions end up having the buildings fall downwards with no difference ?
What kind of government gets pissed at people trying to look for what happened?
Their anger sure do tell a lot
edwardtang1977 1 year ago 19
@edwardtang1977 well they kinda would get pissed when one ever believes them
Beastica17 1 year ago
@edwardtang1977 your saying you wouldnt get pissed if people the audacity to call you a mass murderer of your own people. That the government wouldnt be personally offended by it.
highflya9290 1 year ago
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Hilarious shit.
These Truthie jerkoffs think that a government that couldn't keep Clinton's blowjob secret (with no witnesses at all) somehow managed to pull off the largest, most complex conspiracy in history, and thousands of people kept it secret for 8 yrs.
How fucking idiotic is that?
ChopperSix 1 year ago
@ChopperSix hey asshole, you are an idiot and obviously you do not know shit. do you know about the freemasons and their goals..? do you know that war is buisness for Halliburton and many other corporations that profit from it... you are a jerkoff for believing everything you see on t.v. ... i'd bet that if you see a magician making magic tricks like pulling a rabbit out of a hat , you would believe that the magician has really magical powers you dumb fuck.. fuck off you are just a moron.
KeMoniito 1 year ago
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"history channel discorver national geographic thats all bull shit "
But all the idiotic crap and nonsense on conspiracy websites are completely true?
You're a gullible moron, like most Truthy Club freaks.
ReemYoranus 1 year ago
"youd see Mr. pearlstein ADMIT ...that he pulled the plug on tower 7 "
You're one of those ignorant cunts who think "pull it" is some term used for explosives, even though not ONE demo pro has ever heard it used that way?
Too stupid to find the online professional demo journal, ImplosionWorld, where they laugh at the controlled demo idea?
You're apparently stupid enough to think that a TENANT in a bldg -- Silverstein -- has the authority to demolish it.
Explain that to your landlord.
ReemYoranus 1 year ago
so governments lie! WOW!! who would have thought it. Doesn't mean you believe every bullshit conspiracy theory going. Bush couldn't arrange a piss up in a brewery yet he masterminded the greatest deception of all time????? WTF???? Get real.
atrueirishman 2 years ago
The world trade center was insured by AIG for terrorism only a few moths prior to 9/11.. An interesting fact is that AIG was recently given 175 Billion by the federal govt. in the corporate bail-outs. There was no stipulation that the money had to be paid back and AIG arrogantly continued to award bonuses to it;s ceo's and throw lavish parties at tax payer expense. Sounds like pay-back to me!
scarllett5 2 years ago
Watch the History Channel program all you conspiracy morons! Steel loses half it's strength at 1,100 degrees. Instead of having prospective NFL players take the Wonderlic Test, they should just ask them if they think 9-11 was a conspiracy or not. If they answer "yes" then they FAIL the test. Hopefully they run the 40 in 4.3 because I don't want a slow idiot on my team.
BladeJones 2 years ago
@BladeJones Sorry Mr. Jones but steel doesn't change until 2600 degrees. Other building around the world burned for days and never fell. YES DAYS! It's not the Free Masons, or the Illumnoti, its a group of the rich of the richest called Builderberg. They have secret meetings around the world and discuss how they are going to change what industry in what country next. The first thing was to gain control of all money, Hence the Central Banking of all Nation, and the death of the Gold Standard.
rino1359 2 months ago
@rino1359 Now you are arguing with facts of science regarding steel. FAIL.
BladeJones 2 months ago
9 11 press for truth please go to my page look up my playlist and look for that film i made into a playlist thats a very good film and please if you wish share it with all your friends on twitter facebook myspace etc etc!!!
marxbroths 2 years ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many times has Loose Change been edited for errors and re-released?
If WTC 1 & 2 were destroyed by demolition & not by fire, how do you explain video of the exterior columns buckling under heat and stress loads 15 minutes after impact?
Since demolition experts estimated it would take over 100 men 4-6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7, how come no one witnessed any strange activity of strange boxes?
ctcole77 2 years ago
and you have every rite to ask these questions you just stated here. All im tryign to do is make people think for themselfs and stop just goign with whatever they are told. ctcole77 please go to my page and look up all my playlists watch a few of them the ones that catch your eye just please think for yourself a lil more if your not doing it already!!
marxbroths 2 years ago
@ctcole77 why ask it was private property before the"attack" and the employees that saw them are now all dead or locked away so yeah.
tony38727 1 year ago
@ctcole77 if there is a will there is a way....... keep that in mind
831Chelsea 1 year ago
@ctcole77 The elevators were being "upgraded". This was a major construction project. How come the professor was fired from Berkley because he said he found thermite in the dust from the fall of WTC's? I have pictures of the debris of 9-11 and I see NO twisted or melted steel. My cousin was a Trucker hauling away the debris. He said they were finding supports angle cut as they were exposed. No torchmen went before him!
rino1359 2 months ago
And everybody seems to know the truth.
Listen, think, consider, and question everything, "BOTH" ways. And most of all - have a little humbleness here, will you? We do not know what really happened that day, whatever the angle you see it from, and whatever proof you think you have. I stand on objective soil in this matter, and I've studied every piece of material regarding "9-11" I could come across - and I still do not feel I know THE TRUTH. Calm down your mind, and reconsider your view?
Thnx.
Funkadelic2 2 years ago
BULLSHIT!!!! I can smell it a mile away and Youtube is overflowing with it. The crazier the conspiracy theory the more likely the kids (and the vast majority on youtube are kids) are to believe it earnestly.
Remember people with schitzophrenia REALLY BELIEVE in stuff that isn't real too. Doesn't make it real.
(please copy and paste the above message on every conspiracy theory page on youtube til it eats itself)
atrueirishman 2 years ago
@ atrueirishman
"Remember people with schitzophrenia REALLY BELIEVE in stuff that isn't real too."
ok boy, so u believe, that in shanksville (and pentagon) a REAL PLANE CRASHED VERY REAL IN THE GROUND.
Yea, its REAL because its on TV.
so i think that u are the schizo one..
oh my good u are just one another idiot of the 70%stupididiotblindpeople who believes in everything what they get told. get education man.. or go play on the highway, maybe its fun there...
sir4ki 2 years ago
@sir4ki so you saw the plane hit the pentagon?
tony38727 1 year ago
TOP FIVE 911 TWOOFER LIES
1) Nanothermite (aka paint chips from PPG)
2) No flight 93 (despite 95% of plane debris recovered)
3) No flight 77 (even though over 130 witnesses saw a plane)
4) Marvin Bush WTC security (never happened)
5) Free fall speed (absolutely no building collapsed at freefall speed)
ctcole77 1 year ago
@ctcole77
Get your head out of your ass !
CamIAmSo 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why aren’t truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?
If there was no flight 77, please explain the over 130 witnesses who saw a plane?
ctcole77 1 year ago
@ctcole77
Ok, one main point is that the "truther" movement is quite varied and many people believe many different things. There're guys who say there were no planes, the terrorists were working for the CIA, the terrorists were just scapegoats, the planes were distractions, thermite bombs, etc. Asking a question to all truthers is like asking all christians why they are against using condoms (catholic reference). I'd answer you too, but character count's a bitch here.
227Morgan 1 year ago
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's 1202 architectural and engineering professionals have experience in structural engineering, high rise construction, or controlled demolition?
What did Hani Hanjour’s flight instructors have to say about his flying ability?
Who was Ali Mohamed and what is his relationship with Osama Bin Laden and the CIA?
ctcole77 1 year ago
@ctcole77 anyone who does not swallow the whole official storyline about 9/11 lock, stock and barrel is labeled a 9/11 truther, implying that one believes every one of the most outrageous stories about holographic planes, or space aliens, or whatever. this is a fraudulent tactic, designed to discredit anyone who questions the official storyline. There is no official set of beliefs that define a so-called 9/11 truther - the term itself is a very poor and inaccurate one, one of convenience.
freedomaintfries 1 year ago
@ctcole77 130? after of new york saw that thing!!!
truthers need to get into the real world, some politicians may not have hearts but i bet some of them would do the right thing
Beastica17 1 year ago
a plane flies fuckin fast! you dont need explosives to cut threw steal witha damn plane! the pres. before bush thought there was going to be a attack thats why the guy put insurance on it, its common sence. and if bush didi it then wat the hell was his motivation? he likes to blow shit up and watch thousands of people die?! you all are fucked up!!!
kingjoshj8 2 years ago
So, US troops, under the Bush administration, killed thousands of iraq citizens.... for... nothing? What was the real interest of Mr Bush & friends in invading Iraq, in violation of internation law?
BILLIONS (1 billion = 1000 millions) of dollars have been spent ... to make benefit Texan Oil companies, and Bush friends, who owns these companies?? US Debt increased... american people are suffering from the crisis, with no help from the Bush administration... Good Mr Bush is no longer President
vladtepes10000 2 years ago 13
@vladtepes10000 Yea basically fucking our lives just for oil and money for his friends businesses , look up a video its an interview with iraq's president or some gov official saying how everyone in iraq knew osama was in DC with the Bush family when all this went down and the moment he said this the interviewer from the u.s cut him off and changed the subject saying it was a preposterous statement to bring up.
TheKtran95 1 year ago
@vladtepes10000 it was not for nothing but the real reason is not what you where led to believe. Follow the money...who would gain? Just ask honest questions that occur to you to ask. Don't take anyones word for it, just do your own research.
InfiniteMischief 1 year ago
@vladtepes10000 Tbh wont be better with Obama...
warpspiderfr 11 months ago
@vladtepes10000 its simple, america was expanding their underground empire. building a new military base in iraq. thats all. most likely to be a launch pad for the next war: Iran
KaiserJonOfMusic 6 months ago
@vladtepes10000 Wouldn't Bush's friends profit from drilling for oil here and not overseas? Why didn't they just frame someone in Iraq's intelligence service so they could invade Iran and not Afghanistan where there is no oil?
WhiteTrashBarbarian 4 weeks ago
Hey Geniuses....
Securacom did NOT do security for the World Trade Center.
WTC security was handled by the New York City Police, New York Port Authority division. That's because the owner of the WTC is the NY Port Authority.
Securacom provided EQUIPMENT as a subcontractor to the security team. But they were fired 2 years before 9/11.
JonathonMoseley 2 years ago
A lot of these explosions heard inside the buildings were probably due to high-voltage transformers either cooking off from heat, or getting shorted out when the wiring was torn up, either from the plane damage, or collapsing building sections.
If you haven't heard a high-voltage transformer blow, Google up some examples on Youtube or elsewhere. It's like a damned cannon, or an antitank mine.
legalboxer 2 years ago
"Was this mysterious, silent explosives, developed by the Illuminati & Jew bankers?"
Apparently nos1r's new theory is that the people inside the WTC and right outside heard the explosion(s), but the people a few miles away were too scared shitless to notice a couple of tons of explosives going off.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago
You sir, are a fucking clown. Don't pretend to tell me what my "theory" is.
If you want to get down to it. It is said that the beams were cut with Thermite, which actually DOESN'T make a large BOOM.
I'm still laughing because you are siding with those that called for "witnesses that were miles away". IF you won't even admit that that is pretty fucking retarded then I'm not really interested in what you have to say.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"Controlled demos are ALWAYS heard miles away"
I watched one in Vegas -- we were two miles away, with binoculars, and the loud BOOM was unmistakeable.
No damn way this was demo, esp. as sloppy as it was, busting up lots of other buildings around it.
LancedeBoil 2 years ago
Were there masses of panic stricken people, fire engines, police, ambulances, and general bedlam breaking out in the streets when you watched this controlled demo?
No?
Sorry but I don't subscribe to this "Witnesses that were far away" conspiracy theory. If you were to go into court room and tell the judge that all of your star witnesses happened to be the people FURTHEST from the incident, and none of them happened to hear anything, you would be laughed out of the courtroom.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"none of them happened to hear anything"
None of the hundreds of Youtube videos showing Ground Zero on 9-11 has the gigantic BOOM that accompanies a controlled demo.
Did the CIA sneak in and erase all those sounds on all the media and private videos?
You say it was controlled demo -- where the hell is the boom?
Was this mysterious, silent explosives, developed by the Illuminati & Jew bankers?
ROFL
MsgtSpook 2 years ago
Ok, so why did Building 7 fall?
n0s1r 2 years ago
"using insults in place of facts to back up your claims"
If Truthers promise to be smarter, maybe we'd promise to be nicer.
blueshark69 2 years ago
Smarter? How are you being smarter than truther? You use no FACTS to back up your statements...
None.
At all.
You make a bunch of assumptions while claiming that your statements are based in logic. And then when that fails you the first thing you do is run and hide behind some random person with a Ph.D, and when THAT fails you resort to hurling insults.
If you promised to do some research,
I'll promise to stop pointing out that you haven't researched anything for yourself.
n0s1r 2 years ago
interesting video. strange at end where biulding owner said to ""pull it"take biuling 7 down? it takes a lot of time to set up the wiring for demolition since fire will not take down steel and cement structure, also firemen are not trained demolition contractors obviosly. the work has to be preset or you have to have an army of people to do that on standby? I figiure a billionare should be able to pay for better classes on how to lie using truthfull facts hahaha.then again most people are stupid
rbel88 2 years ago
"Your lack of English skills and complete ignorance of history"
Which pretty much defines the average Truther dipshit.
Most of these retards still think thermite explodes and that steel has to melt before it fails.
Like they said earler -- Wood Shop students instead of college-prep.
Bulldog7046 2 years ago
Moisture free steam? And his proof is that a fire that would have burned a good deal hotter melted pipes that could take 800 degrees with no problems. Wow.
olstar18 2 years ago
9/11 is the same example for the so called german war it was funded by the same elite groups who started the war and finished the war so really no one lost the war or won the war, the holocaust was created for only one reason to suppress humanity but not the zionist jews or in other words it was the zionist that created the holocaust war, and who was the one funding the war the central bank of america which is ran by the rockefeller family,central bank of a USA gave 20million to german in ww
ify1979 2 years ago
i don't believe bush was in charge of this at all. i won't completely throw away the idea of a conspiracy, but why would bush do it? why? no one has ever been able to explain why bush would do something like this. but i don't buy that at all. but i could believe the conspiracy theory, i just need more proof.
operagirl529 2 years ago
Possibly for power? Or maybe as a distraction so the world would focus on that instead of...something else? I don't know, I'm just throwing up ideas. I'm not sure I buy into the whole conspiracy idea, but I do find it interesting.
TechnomancerMorhion 2 years ago
i think it's because, it's a great reason to back up having a war in the middle east, wouldn't you be pissed if you lost Family and Friends because "terrorist" killed them? wouldn't you want "revenge?" many americans joined the military after being told that terrorist were involved, and congress approved the invasion of Iraq, i guess its the powerful and cheap way to confiscate the Middle East's Oil... his family is involved the Oil Business.
CaIamlty 2 years ago
Your lack of English skills and complete ignorance of history pretty much gives away the fact that you're a fourteen-year-old twat that will be taking Wood Shop instead of Physics & Calculus.
Go play in the shallow end of the pool
Bulldog7046 2 years ago 2
why are you so butt hurt? did one of your family members die in 9/11? all you do is: get pissed at people that are stating their opinions on a youtube video.
CaIamlty 2 years ago
people get butt hurt over it because when you put "terrorist" and "revenge" in quotations like that, not only do you make it look like you're saying terrorists aren't capable of hijacking a plane and ramming it into one of the tallest buildings in the world (which mostly everyone agree is possible), you give the people who are responsible for the massacre a pass. Even if you didn't lose someone in 911 it sounds despicable. And you have yet to name another suspect so what the fuck.
wolfumz 2 years ago
Its not that much people necessary. You just need A handfull, and some, which dont know all, just do their work, but not getting the whole picture. For people with money and power its no problem to manage this.
You knew as well, that WTC was full of asbestos? And a caculation to fix this all, was a couple of hundreds millions dollars? So whats easier AND more rentable? destroy, get the money of the insurance, build new and get a big profit! A couple of lifes? just numbers, not important at all!
buhava 2 years ago
"WTC was full of asbestos"
Only a small part of the WTC had asbestos. The standards changed while it was being built, and most of it was non-asbestos fireproofing.
And there is not ONE bit of evidence that Silverstein OR the real owner, the Port Authority, had to remove any asbestos.
Ignorant fucks just keep parroting this shit, hoping the really stupid will believe it without checking.
They obviously had you pegged right.
TankMonster105 2 years ago
If this was a trial, the weight of circummsantial evidence is so heavy that there would be little doubt on the verdic.
darrellmellissa 2 years ago
I just checked what you said and it turned out to be complete bullshit...
Seems the only ignorant fuck parroting bullshit and hoping the really stupid will believe it without checking is... You...
Feel free to freak out and start hurling insults at me. The most you will get in return is blocked.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"I just checked what you said and it turned out to be complete bullshit"
If you're talking about the asbestos in the WTC, you're a fucking liar.
Which is why you can't come up with one reference to anyone having to remove any asbestos.
People insult you because you're stupid.
Bulldog7046 2 years ago
Who said anything about asbestos?
n0s1r 2 years ago
I sure as hell didn't... I was responding to the fact that he is using the usual tactic of claiming something and hoping that nobody will look it up.
You are using the same tactic combined with the tactic of using insults in place of facts to back up your claims.
All you have expressed is your belief that people who don't subscribe to the official story belong in "wood shop" instead of "physics".
I would like to know how you draw this conclusion...
n0s1r 2 years ago
As for the physics end of it, I have not said anything that would require one to know any high degree of physics, simply that WTC7 fell at free fall speed. Which it did.
You should of learned the formula for calculating free fall speed in the 9th grade...
As for explosives. I have no clue about that. What I do know is that what I am being told happened by the government COULDN'T of happened.
n0s1r 2 years ago
Last thing I would like to point out is your excessive use of referring to "experts".
When someone is overly dependent on the work of "experts" all they are really saying is: "No, I don't want to think. Could you just find someone to do the thinking for me?"
And if you want to play the "credibility" card. All I have to say is, in a climate where you can lose your job, status, or "credibility" for saying the wrong thing, the mere state of being "credentialed" makes your claims suspect.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"the mere state of being "credentialed" makes your claims suspect"
So this is your excuse for the fact that no structural engineer in the WORLD will embarrass himself by backing up any of the Truther claims? Even the N. Korean, Chinese, or Iranian struct. engrs (who really love Bush & America) ?
Now how fucking lame is that theory?
blueshark69 2 years ago
Not a theory, it's a fact. I hate to bring this up as an example, but could you trust credentialed historians and scientists in Nazi Germany when it came to Jews?
NO, OF COURSE NOT.
Why? Because if they said the wrong thing they would lose their position and possibly their life.
This same sort of climate exists around the official story of 9/11. If you, as a scientist, go against it, you are labeled "insane" and marginalized. The accuracy of your findings plays no mitigating factor in this.
n0s1r 2 years ago
And on the note of marginalization, the fact that you would even be bold enough to say "no Structural Engineer in the WORLD would embarrass" demonstrates it completely.
Not, not many would, specifically for the fact that they WOULD be attacked with claims such as "they are embarrassing themselves".
I mean, you speak as if Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth isn't a REAL organization. Or wait, is that also just a conspiracy theory?
n0s1r 2 years ago
"you speak as if Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth isn't a REAL organization"
You mean that collection of oddballs & phonies, none of which are either a structural engineer or a demo expert?
Their group photo: tinyurl (DOT) com/jtjsv
blaupunkt455 2 years ago
I think Stevie Jones is the one wearing the orange sash.
TankMonster105 2 years ago
1) Fake site.
2) When they don't agree with the official story THEN all of a sudden they are oddballs and phonies.
3) None of which are a Structural Engineer? You just pulled that out of your ass.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"As for explosives. I have no clue about that"
No Truther does, which is why they swallow this thermite bullshit.
I'll make it simple:
It wasn't an explosive of ANY type, since no loud BOOM was heard all over Manhattan. No explosives -- none.
Thermite doesn't make much noise, but it can't be used for controlled demo, and never has been. Ever. Its corrosive action cannot be timed to the split second (obviously), which makes it useless for this.
Leaving only magical demo elves as a theory.
blueshark69 2 years ago
No loud boom was heard? Actually I have seen witness testimony from DOZENS of people that claim they heard explosions.
But all those people are crazy and should be ignored right? Right. Of course. Because if they go against the official story well they MUST be crazy.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"DOZENS of people that claim they heard explosions"
Yeah -- mostly INSIDE or right next to the buildings. Big surprise, with collapsing floors & exploding diesel tanks, propane, acetylene, CO2, NO2, etc.
How about MILES away, like with any controlled demo?
Zero. Zip. Nada.
Drag up all your brain power and see if you can tell the difference.
blaupunkt455 2 years ago
They kept diesel, propane, acetylene, CO2, and NO2 tanks in the upper stories of the World Trade Towers? Or do you mean the ones that were reportedly in the basement? Are you going to try to tell me that the plane in fact hit the bottom of the building?
And I find it funny how you are asking for WITNESSES that were MILES away.
Drag up all of your brainpower and think about that.
You want WITNESSES that were MILES AWAY.
Fuck the ones that were RIGHT THERE! You want MILES AWAY.
n0s1r 2 years ago
I'm sorry but you are forcing me to no longer take you seriously.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"diesel, propane, acetylene, CO2, and NO2 tanks in the upper stories"
Medical & dental offices, maintenance areas (located every 5 - 6 floors), restaurants (like the giant WoW on the top floor), snack bars, office kitchens.
Plus all the emerg. generators backing up separate corporate offices and infrastructure (elevators, emergency lighting systems, etc)
Controlled demos are ALWAYS heard miles away. That's what he refers to.
You're talking about people INSIDE and close by. Irrelevant.
Bulldog7046 2 years ago
Sorry, I'm going to need to see evidence of your claims of "Medical and Dental offices" and I find your claims of "Restaurants" existing within the towers to be utterly ridiculous. You are starting to sound like a Moonbat conspiracy theorist.
n0s1r 2 years ago
"I find your claims of "Restaurants" existing within the towers to be utterly ridiculous"
Because, like most Truthers, you're too lazy to even use Google:
tinyurl (DOT) com/mewxqp
"After the terrorist attacks, the Windows workers and others from food businesses and corporate cafeterias at the World Trade Center formed a nonprofit organization called The Restaurant Opportunities Center of New York"
The Windows restaurant alone employed 140 people.
Let me guess -- you never saw the place.
MsgtSpook 2 years ago
"corporate cafeterias at the World Trade Center"
I used to pick stuff up from law offices in both buildings, and I never saw a law firm that didn't have its own little kitchen and cooking area - stove, fridge, cabinets, tables & chairs.
I saw the board in the lobby enough times to know there were medical and dental offices, but didn't count them.
Most hi-rises have lots of medical and dental since it's guaranteed customers in the building.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago
"I just checked what you said and it turned out to be complete bullshit"
Checked, my ass. You can't come up with anything that says the asbestos had to be removed from the WTC because it DIDN'T, something even beginners here know.
He caught your lie, and you run away like a typical truther pussy.
Bulldog7046 2 years ago
"WTC was full of asbestos"
Horse shit.
Give one bit of evidence that asbestos had to be removed from the WTC, you lying piece of shit.
blueshark69 2 years ago
sorry, blueshark. I just try to find the truth for myself, ok? I am angry, confused. And i am not alone. Its a big movement. There are evidences, cant remember where i saw this, that there was asbestos in the buildings. And in thousands of buildings the Asbestos had to be removed, cause of the danger for the health. Everywhere, but not in the WTC?
And please, try to be sober. Doesn't look good, when you attack other people with a other opinion than you have. Thats fascism
buhava 2 years ago
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This is pretty good but check out the video on my channel guys its even better in my own opinion the only thing that was left out of this was the ELEVEN conspiracies
MisterChilll 2 years ago
The air frame of a 747 is made of aluminum. The skin is aluminum sheet rivited to the air frame. The structial supports of the TT were steel. Also from my machine tool expeience I know that machining properties fo alum. hot and cold rolled steel. So the next time you tear off the aluminum foil from the grill, be careful that foil don't destroy the grate since the Gov. says that the air frame and heat caused the whole building 1, 2, & 7 to fail! Imagine no heat sink effect from other floors?
rino1359 2 years ago
"the Gov. says that the air frame and heat caused the whole building 1, 2, & 7 to fail"
And every published engineering analysis, by engineers from countries all over the world, says that the combination of plane impacts and the uncontrollable fires (fuel and office contents), caused the collapse.
There is NO published analysis disputing this.
TankMonster105 2 years ago
Yeah. It was the plane that hit WTC7 that caused it to structurally fail and collapse at free-fall speed.
You know. That plane.
That plane that hit it.
n0s1r 2 years ago
JFK did 2 things tha got hime killed, he was pulling the troups out of Nam by 1965, and printed $4.25billion using our silver reserves. He told Marlin who wrote this in her missing journal. When JFK was killed, Marlin told Bobby. Bobby acepted the nom, and before he cold get ou the building, he was dead! MILITARY bases in the middle east. An army trained in urban warfare, to be sent ANYWHERE to quell the disidents. Connect the dots! For the people to be behind the Gov to engauge in War!
rino1359 2 years ago
im open to all ideas and i think more info is needed not just theorys spinning around.
the part i dont get is if bombs were put in the building this would have needed time like weeks to prepare as first you would need people to go through alot of the floors planting the bombs and hiding them and wiring them and connecting all of them up. im neither pro or against the conspiracy but real scientists and educated people need to to study the whole thing.
soniq351 2 years ago
Soniq, thats a good point, I had similar doubts untill I've seen a Vid in which some of the occupants of WTC (SURVIVORS) reported to have heard drilling noises in early mornings and late nigths for weeks.
WTC is not the matter of concern if one wishes to study WTC conspiracy. The real and evident grey area is Pentegon. Sometimes I refuse to belive it is not a inside Job. But the everytime I look the clips or think about at the Pentagon, I end up thinking otherwise..
anwarspeaks 2 years ago
Italy's former President Francesco Cossiga has told Italy's "most respected newspaper" [Corriere della Sera] that the 9-11 attacks "were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies."
author: Truthseeker
rino1359 2 years ago
the 911 attacks do puzzle me as there is not good enough evidence to support conspiracy theorists yet there are alot of un answered questions. your correct on the pentagon attack it looks sus.
thats realy disturbing if your own government can do such horid things. id like to see this investigated properly
soniq351 2 years ago
Not as much as you would think! Arron Russo was told about 911 by Nick Rockfeller 11 months before it happened! Think those elevator upgraders might have been up to no good for the 9 months they upgraded those evevators? While a Bush Family memeber was the head of security at TWC.
rino1359 2 years ago
i know what your saying and im open to ideas but i cant understand how the so called 911 conspiracy to blow up the towers could be planned and acheived..do you know how much time you would need plus all the people you would need to organise this tragedy? im surprised even if the conspiracy did happen why hasnt any info been leaked by numbers people who have had to set the plans,bomb experts,flight pilots,cia, who supposedly involved?
this sort of conspiracy plan would need alot of people.
soniq351 2 years ago
i also see your point as so many questions are not answered
soniq351 2 years ago
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OMG. people that think 9/11 happened are stupid. i live in carolina and i can assure you that 9/11 never happened. all three towers are still there. 9/11 was a ghey conspiracy by bush so that he could invade iraq and force them to supply wal mart with cheaper products every day. i know this. bush told me. im his dad.
Taphephobiavideos 2 years ago
ctcole77 is walking proof that intellect is NOT education! MD13 The steel was hauled to a scrap yard and destroyed! My cousin was driving one of the trucks! Not a year later, as it came from the cleanup! He also told me that the basement was full of melted steel to the point that some of the slag ran into the hall! Follow the money to the Fed! They are getting all that interest loaning the US worthless paper. NWO get a base in the mid east, army practices live fire urban warfare!
rino1359 2 years ago 2
Mad Dog 13: While cleanup was being done, there was a photo of about 20 beams angle cut jutting out of debries!
And between the first plane ans the second plane, there were people 2 women and a man inside in the hole left by the plane! No evidence of this mass fire. They didn't seem too worried or in a hurry to get out of that area! Kerosene just isn't that volitile! Same fuel used for torpedio heaters! Didn't see flames inside hole either, so where is the mass fire?
rino1359 2 years ago 2
also where are the plane engines? or any of the plane wreckage? especially with the pentagon.
bigcountryjd 2 years ago
But again, I could go on. The 9/11 truth movement is a crock that failed long ago. You've had 8 years and you've proven nothing and what you think you proved, you've just lied.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
rino: your very arguments are flawed, illogical, and flat out wrong
The steel was kept for well over a year, examined by thousands of people, out in the open.
There WAS NO molten steel. The picture you're most likely referencing was a picture whose color was tampered with. The glow was actually a flash light.
The beams were cut as part of GETTING THE BUILDING OFF OF THE SITE. That's how you move things, YOU CUT THEM.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
I used to believe in Thermite and Molten Metal - and I though Sofia, Steven E Jones and others were helping us to find the truth.
Sadly, this now seems not the be the case as they, like NIST, are unable to explain the evidence. Google Hurricane Erin and 9/11 or look at my videos if you are interested to know more.
adjuk 2 years ago
Magnet dragon 13: Architects and physicists are looking into the fall time! Until the scientific data was concluded, the debris are to be stored by law, yet they were destroyed, illegally! How come the spars at the base were all angle cut (clean up photos). Explain the mouton steel in the basement! How does jet fuel burn so hot as to melt steel? Jet fuel is just D1, or kerosene, which is less volatile than gasoline. How come other buildings which had more damage didn't fall?
rino1359 2 years ago
Dressed Mary: The Feds destoyed the debris befor any true scientific data coul be obtained! The building started colapsong, adn I started a stopwatch 6.379 seconds fro the start of colapse to the end of colapse! This is a average speed of 147 MPH! This is near freefall speedand since it started aout from 0 I'll bet it well went over 160 MPH! Where does this fit in to your seismic data? Rooftop to ground1368 ft. /6.4 sec. =147 MPH! Explain why the standing didn't offer resistance?
rino1359 2 years ago
Want some proofs ?
"September Clues - Definitive Edition"
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length:01:31:43
go Magnes go ,you'ill die smarter :p
dg8383 2 years ago
The seismic record from Columbia University's observatory in Palisades, NY (21 miles away) provides indisputable proof that massive explosions brought down those towers. At the precise moment the South Tower began collapsing, a 2.1 earthquake registered on the seismograph. At the precise moment the North Tower began collapsing, a 2.3 earthquake registered; however, as the buildings started to crumble these waves disappeared. Your info is spoonfed...open your eyes and find out 4 yourself.
montanastranger 2 years ago
rino:
4. 9/11 truthers are the last people who think freely. Look at your leaders, question their motivations. Who DIRECTLY makes money off of your belief? How many things does Alex Jones sell on his site? Jim Marrs? Jim Fetzer? AE911? Something to think about. (and before you start the "well, your government makes money off of 9/11, dur dur dur, bs", its conjecture and based on what one believes actually happened. Your leaders get your cash directly sent to them. Not the same thing.)
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
Mary Drecin13: Your done arguing, but you are like the Goverment, You talk on for ever and say NOTHING! Answer my question! "What does seismic data have to do with speed of fall? " Seismic data tells how much the earth shook! You could hide musch in seismic data! BTW ther Mary did you know that the elevators underwent a total upgrade? I must say that you must be a fed agent debunking people who think freely? Hum imagine that NO free thinking?
rino1359 2 years ago
rino: Oh, making my name into a girls', oh, you got me. Woohoo, did I get burned there. If I ever give a shit, I'll be sure to tell you how I feel about that. Don't wait up, though.
1. do you even understand seismic data?
2. show proof of this upgrade, and how it factored into a controlled demo. and....go.
3. Oh, I disagree with crackpot theories, so I must work for the gov. Never heard that before. FAIL of an argument
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
There was a real investigation, its not our fault you whackjobs refuse to believe the truth.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago 4
And the investiagtiob evidence shows something dodgey happened. End of.
TribalWar 2 years ago
Ummm, no. The investigation showed what really happened and that some people wouldn't believe in air. Its not my fault people believe garbage like conspiracy theories and can't back them up whatsoever.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
At the end what first two womens reprisent?
Mesina2 2 years ago
troops killed since 9/11 and this video - which i think is off since fighting has gone on...
civilians killed during 9/11 -- which i think that number is rounded up, wikipedia has a slightly lower number of 2,974 - which doesn't include the 19 hijackers
jm143am 2 years ago 2
thx
Mesina2 2 years ago
Hey MaryDrecin 13: What does seismic data have to do with speed of fall? Seismic data is how much impact was recorded! Did you personally retreive the seismic data from the recording machines? DId you see it first hand
I also suppose you got to vote on the seatbelt law, manditory Insurance, and the AIG Group bonuses! Because my government says so, it is written in concrete! What a maroon! Thats right MAROON, because you are too thickheaded to be just a moron!
rino1359 2 years ago
Its all in front of your face. If you refuse to see it, not my fault, not my concern.
First, nice little insult there. I'll try and give a shit in the next decade and respond.
Second: 6.4 seconds? Really? On what planet? Because ON EARTH, seismic data shows otherwise.
I'm done arguing with the deaf. Have fun in your hollow, vapid conspiracy world.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
And this is based on what proof? Where's the proof? Where's the science? Where's the engineering? Where's the FACTS. Accusations are wondrous things, anything can be claimed, but only true things can be proven.
Don't tell me its raining and not show me puddles.
Oh, and citing the American Free Press is like citing craigslist ads, they have the same journalistic merit.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
magnes i would love to see the science, proof, and engineering you have found to back up your statement! Bet you will not find on scientist not associated by the government stating the same words you claim to call "FACTS"
chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
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Oh sorry i ment to say your dumb! do you realize how stupid you sound when you criticize people for things you happen to do yourself?
chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
So do you know anything about physics or are you just winging it at this point?
First, your argument was that they fell at "near free fall speed". They didn't.
Now you're saying the lower floors didn't put up much resistance if they fell in 15 seconds. 1. its not free fall speed 2. you have to take into account the pancaking of floors (1 falls onto 2, 1 and 2 fall onto 3, 1 2 and 3 fall onto 4, 1 2 3 and 4 fall onto 5 and so on) and how much momentum that creates, plus factoring in gravity.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
It's funny how you leave out the nano-thermite that was found in the dust.. if you've actually looked into both sides. you can find quite a few well known scientists now unemployed for making their evidence known.. Why would the government need to hide the fact that explosives were used? don't be hypocritical when it comes to physics either because the pancake theory wouldn't work on a STEEL building! You're an idiot.
chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
magnes wrote : " plus factoring in gravity. " how stupid you must be to add that. Is the pancake effect stronger with gravity?Haha
w/o gravity there'd be no pancake at all
dg8383 2 years ago
South tower: 14 seconds
North Tower: 12.5-15 seconds (depending on when one counts the "beginning" and "end" of the actual collapse)
Its not an exact science, but evidence supports the fact that the collapse took longer than "free fall speed" would be.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
so 15 seconds, LOL. see, not much resistance from lower floors if both fell in 15 seconds.
thethirdchimp 2 years ago
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chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
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110 floors of steel in 15 seconds isn't free falling? GET REAL! Also did you know there is ALSO scientific evidence that the chances of the heat getting high enough to even BEND steel in that situation are extremely unlikely to happen... Now when you DOUBLE those chances, what do you get?.. it is physically impossible! back to physics with ya :D
chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
I AM some guy on youtube, but I'm not saying listen to me, I'm saying listen to THE EXPERTS WHO SHOW HOW THESE THEORIES ARE BUNK. Do so actual research, learn some science, don't go with the "I agree with it, so it must be true" crowd.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
lol, i'd rather be in the "I agree with it, so it must be true" crowd than the "government said it, so it must be true" crowd!
by the way, want some "science": try the laws of motion. all three buildings fell at or near free fall speed. amazing for a "pancake" collapse.
thethirdchimp 2 years ago
Wrong again. I've done the research (and continue to do so), I've looked at independent sources, structural engineers, clean up crew, firefighters, you know, people who actually know what they're talking about (and aren't named Alex "government did it" Jones) and I've came to my own conclusion that these conspiracy claims are bunk. Look at the science, look at the math, look at the engineering, it's all there. These paranoid ravings are nothing by madness set to a catchphrase.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
well, i'm "looking" for the "science", "math" and "engineering" in your "paranoid raving" reply........what a suprise! none there!
thethirdchimp 2 years ago
Amazing how they think we're absolute idiots lol If the medias story made any sense what so ever, than 60% of americans wouldn't belive 9/11 was an inside job. The people who don't know that truth, simply can't comprehend the idea because they're brainwashed, or they didn't take enough time looking at the ACTUAL evidence. They're basing their facts on something that has no proof behind it and preach it to us like they have no doubt in their mind they may be wrong. Pure ignorance ..
chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
Also, don't bring that lame, tired, FALSE "near free fall speed" argument, it was debunked a long time ago by seismic records.
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
ok, so tell me then- how long did they take?
(looking forward to ur reply, lol)
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chasebaenziger1 2 years ago
The NWO depends on people being labeled as nutcases! Anonymity is their greatest weapon. Follow the money. The Fed wants it all! They won't stop until we are all chipped, meaning the V-Chip! I thought like you at one time, until doing research in a totally different area led me here! True Fact! I believe Nick Rockefeller did tell Aaron Russo that 9/11 was a hoax to get military bases in the Middle East! REMEMBER You heard it here first but the next place we will invade will be Venezuela!
rino1359 2 years ago
Show proof or shut up
MagnesDrachen13 2 years ago
don't see any proof coming from your end ;)
chasebaenziger1 2 years ago