In Country songwriting, I've notice that using two or three selectional restriction violations with kinesthetic predicates in the first verse really pulls the unconscious mind into the song and into the altered state the song intends to create in the listener. The use of alternating visual and kinestetic predicates between the verses and chorus is a useful technique for creating a contrast of disassociation and association to an emotion.
@Ebo9508 Prime example...."She thinks my tractor's sexy"...Even though the song is silly, it was a hit and follows your statement above. Thanks for breaking it down for me!
This is the part I absolutely HATE about writing songs. The melody. I have no way of recording them down, and then I always forget it later. It pisses me off.
TBH if you forget a melody it is usually a sign that it isn't good.Don't be put of by this. Keep writing melodies and the ones you remember will be the good ones. This worked out pretty well for The Beatles :)
Wow best melody tips ever!;) Also another tip of the late great Kurt Cobain (nirvana) is melody first, then lyrics. The lyrics can b random lines of poetry as long as they rhyme, but feeling comes from the actual music/melody, not words.
@danielspital its your space turn a black light on or hang art up make sure your room isnt a sad color like white and listen to songs you wanna sound like mine is blink 182 and i listen to blink for hours trying to see what they do then ill get a good line in the shower and ill build around it i have bad flow though i cannot transition verse to chorus and what not and try to freestyle lyrics i freestyle all the time and some sound good and some suck youll get it
@danielspital I tend to have the same problem, What I figured i should do is just listen to alot of music you like and in the genre you'd like your melody to link in with and sing or hum along alot and then just try and bend their melodies slightly and try cutting pieces from each song and try and glue them together and see what happens. :)
I got an incredible melody the other day, 15 minutes into class. So I just played it over and over in my head until the class ended and recorded it on my phone.
@TheSimplestThing I do...almost everynyt...make a new full song wid d chord struct n melody n sometyms lyrics too, ( n guitar solo's too ;) )....dreaming of a rockin stage perf..but end up falllin asleep widout rememberin a thing wen i wake up d nxt day :(
I get great ideas when I,m driving. I take portable recording device with me and leave it on for the whole journey. It does make for painful listening afterwards, but it has paid of with some good ideas.
People don't pull over to the side of the road, they pull out their smart phones, use shazam or soundhound and if that doesnt work go to google and type in some of the lyrics (all while driving of course) then maybe text a few friends to see if they know.
@erikmichaelrichey Um, no. I have a pretty sporadic schedule so there's no "shower time frame". And the idea that my brain has a melody sprouting schedule is sort of ridiculous.
I`ve just watched Immortal Beloved about Beethoven(my favorite composer of all time-gotta argue about Mozart, lol ;) and the last tip from this video is mentioned in the movie itself. It`s the part where Beethoven describes a piece of his to his secretary saying: "This is the sound of man, who is late for a meeting with his lover...This is the sound of agitation" and he actually was referring to a story from his life, well, from the movie`s perspective anyway! Thanks for the tips!
Thanks for sharing! Unfortunately a few times I got melodies while I was sleeping and I wanted to remember them when I woke up. Unfortunately that didn't happen. :(
I have my best ideas when I am sleeping but when I wae up and try to record it I forget what the melody was. Also,on some occasions,get the whole song with rythm,lead, and lyrics. I tried to have a notebook next to me when I sleep but I forget the song,or melody,when I wake up.
I'm just curious about something: This technique you're using- are you suggesting humming the melody ideas 'a cappella', or are do you hum them while playing your instrument?
@AlicexBrandonxCullen Same fucking problem! They ALWAYS hit me in german class and I'm like "Green Day...eat your heart out" and then the bell goes I it leaves me!
Thanks for these tips I usually have ten million ideas but no structure you created somewhat of a road map and that helps people like me with no structure.
Probably some of the best songwriting advice I've heard. I'll probably have to watch it a few more times to absorb all the info, but definitely informative.
@samanthalynn6790 Bring a recording device into the bathroom, lay down a mat by the shower to soad up any access water, and whenever you get an idea step out of the shower onto the mat and record it.
@samanthalynn6790 Same here buddy It fucking sucks...I write songs :) And Its hard for me to make the melody, its the hardest part for me...I finally come up with one and FUCK I forget it -.- lol
I sometimes hum and beat box into my mp3 player, etc. to capture an idea. My cellular phone also has a recorder built into it. I try to not lose the music in my head! You can purchase a voice recorder for $50 or less.
@samanthalynn6790 jot down a couple of lines on the shower screen fingay when it has condensed up and gt a peice of paper later and write it down. i fink this woks :P
100 percent sure he is Kiwi. when he says "self explanatory" self sounds definantely Kiwi. In general his voice is voice pronouned, which is more like Kiwi and less like Australian hhahaha,, anyways meh :P
If you want more information on the stuff Mr. Williams is talking about you can find it all freely available on Win Wenger's "Project Renaissance" website, which is the source of most of Mr. Williams ideas.
Thanks for sharing the good ideas.
mkelleyharris 3 days ago
Really appreciate those ....thank you!
1953Tex 1 week ago
thanks!
JDKMM7 2 weeks ago
I will try that but not today. I've too much songs that are incomplete xD.
Steph4Xmen 3 weeks ago
thank you
matigj1 1 month ago
This is so helpful, thanks!
BonnieSaysHey 1 month ago
levels-avicii, irresistible melody
Michalek15171 1 month ago
Awesomeeeee! check out my channel and give me some personal tips on my music! thankksssss
StarQuakeMusic 2 months ago
Extremely helpful before even trying to use them, Subscribed, Thank you :)
faried3 2 months ago
Thank you for this. You have some really good ideas and I can already sense that they will help my music grow. I appreciate it!
constanthum 2 months ago 6
Great tips!
ThadJameson 3 months ago
Thanks for your help.
This helped a lot.
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@sn1perfection I'm ctfu at how random this is!
Hachithe8 3 months ago
Thanks a bunch!
eoneal12 4 months ago
In Country songwriting, I've notice that using two or three selectional restriction violations with kinesthetic predicates in the first verse really pulls the unconscious mind into the song and into the altered state the song intends to create in the listener. The use of alternating visual and kinestetic predicates between the verses and chorus is a useful technique for creating a contrast of disassociation and association to an emotion.
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@Ebo9508 Prime example...."She thinks my tractor's sexy"...Even though the song is silly, it was a hit and follows your statement above. Thanks for breaking it down for me!
cminy1989 4 months ago
This helped me a lot thanks! (:
RecklessRisa 5 months ago
I think I love you for this.
JustinMPerea 5 months ago
This is the part I absolutely HATE about writing songs. The melody. I have no way of recording them down, and then I always forget it later. It pisses me off.
Silvericewarriorcats 6 months ago 2
@Silvericewarriorcats you can write the notes on manuscrpit
BananaSandwich1 5 months ago
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TBH if you forget a melody it is usually a sign that it isn't good.Don't be put of by this. Keep writing melodies and the ones you remember will be the good ones. This worked out pretty well for The Beatles :)
petegiant 4 months ago
Wow best melody tips ever!;) Also another tip of the late great Kurt Cobain (nirvana) is melody first, then lyrics. The lyrics can b random lines of poetry as long as they rhyme, but feeling comes from the actual music/melody, not words.
heartshapednirvana 6 months ago
Don't be a hack. sing from your heart.
onemanfanclub 6 months ago
Hahaha,
I'll Try To Stop Being So Pestimistic About My Rythems Now.
LMAO.
But I Don't Know.
I Judge Them Negatively Because I Want To Make The Song Even Bigger Then What I Originally Come Up With.
:P
99kickass 6 months ago
thank you broooo
FreshFruitInc 6 months ago
AWESOME!
SidechainSound 6 months ago
So you want me to shower a lot. Hmm. You could knock out two problems there.
HumbleThudwigThud 6 months ago
I commute an hour each way to work and I'm always late cuz I'm constantly pulling over and writing down lyrics
4thGeerd 7 months ago
iPhone rules
MecoChief 7 months ago
Thank You.
Great Tutorial.
Big10Record 7 months ago
I've spent the whole day trying to record some songs. Everything I make is so generic and rubbish. :'(
danielspital 7 months ago
@danielspital its your space turn a black light on or hang art up make sure your room isnt a sad color like white and listen to songs you wanna sound like mine is blink 182 and i listen to blink for hours trying to see what they do then ill get a good line in the shower and ill build around it i have bad flow though i cannot transition verse to chorus and what not and try to freestyle lyrics i freestyle all the time and some sound good and some suck youll get it
DECIFERTHIS09 7 months ago
@DECIFERTHIS09 Blink 182 are awesome. Thanks for the advice and good luck with your song writing!
danielspital 7 months ago
@danielspital I tend to have the same problem, What I figured i should do is just listen to alot of music you like and in the genre you'd like your melody to link in with and sing or hum along alot and then just try and bend their melodies slightly and try cutting pieces from each song and try and glue them together and see what happens. :)
jluvsmetal 6 months ago
i find monday mornings easy to think of things cause people at schoold usally are tired and its easy to write songs about what there doing lol
rockerof80s 8 months ago
I got an incredible melody the other day, 15 minutes into class. So I just played it over and over in my head until the class ended and recorded it on my phone.
That piece of crap phone finally paid off!
FranLesPaul 8 months ago
Great Vid, thanks!
SF8008 8 months ago
I made a wonderful tune while watching this vid. By the time I finished writing that last sentence I forgot it.....
TheFarhana101 9 months ago
does anyone else create great melodies like 2 minutes before they fall asleep??
TheSimplestThing 9 months ago 151
@TheSimplestThing I do...almost everynyt...make a new full song wid d chord struct n melody n sometyms lyrics too, ( n guitar solo's too ;) )....dreaming of a rockin stage perf..but end up falllin asleep widout rememberin a thing wen i wake up d nxt day :(
popstardj2 8 months ago
@TheSimplestThing I just did. Welcome to Eb minor.
HellsSaints 4 months ago
@TheSimplestThing f**k me I drag myself outa bed almost every night to put pen to paper, whats that about!!!
mickharden 3 months ago
@TheSimplestThing That's so ridiculously true!
AICALEXAIC 1 month ago
@TheSimplestThing every day!
singular23 1 month ago
@TheSimplestThing every night! so frustrating!
KONAROCK1 3 weeks ago
@TheSimplestThing Better yet, having a riff stuck in your head, but an instrument is nowhere in sight!
GayRocker81 7 hours ago
I get great ideas when I,m driving. I take portable recording device with me and leave it on for the whole journey. It does make for painful listening afterwards, but it has paid of with some good ideas.
writesongs4you 9 months ago
Hangover.. :)
windcooler 9 months ago
its irresistible lol with an e
dandarth1 10 months ago
People don't pull over to the side of the road, they pull out their smart phones, use shazam or soundhound and if that doesnt work go to google and type in some of the lyrics (all while driving of course) then maybe text a few friends to see if they know.
JSnyder49428 10 months ago
@erikmichaelrichey Um, no. I have a pretty sporadic schedule so there's no "shower time frame". And the idea that my brain has a melody sprouting schedule is sort of ridiculous.
samanthalynn6790 10 months ago
Things that give me ideas are searching for items in a store, in the car riding somewhere, and in the middle of class.
whatchukno100 10 months ago
I had a good melody in my dream. Too bad I couldn't remember it.
whatchukno100 10 months ago
Really nice! ;)
TheOskar96 11 months ago
I`ve just watched Immortal Beloved about Beethoven(my favorite composer of all time-gotta argue about Mozart, lol ;) and the last tip from this video is mentioned in the movie itself. It`s the part where Beethoven describes a piece of his to his secretary saying: "This is the sound of man, who is late for a meeting with his lover...This is the sound of agitation" and he actually was referring to a story from his life, well, from the movie`s perspective anyway! Thanks for the tips!
cMaXeJIJIo 11 months ago
iphones are shit
shortbusheros4 11 months ago
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE CREATIVE SPACE IT IS MANDATORY FOR CREATIVITY.
you must feel totally free and safe from criticism for real art to have room to flow.
you have to enter that child like state of being, fee from care and totally in the moment.
HeavyMagic01 1 year ago
wow this is exactly what I have been doing for years!!
musicalroot 1 year ago
thank you
WickedStalker 1 year ago
i utilize technique #2 all the time and still get writer's block maybe i'll try #3
leach987654321 1 year ago
this video is fuckin awesome
TheFireInJuly 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing! Unfortunately a few times I got melodies while I was sleeping and I wanted to remember them when I woke up. Unfortunately that didn't happen. :(
Catcrazy69 1 year ago
Chears Mate This is realy Good Advice Helps alot your a Champion
AJCMovies 1 year ago
thanks! good tips!
wilcoxlivepa 1 year ago
I have my best ideas when I am sleeping but when I wae up and try to record it I forget what the melody was. Also,on some occasions,get the whole song with rythm,lead, and lyrics. I tried to have a notebook next to me when I sleep but I forget the song,or melody,when I wake up.
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music4writers 1 year ago
reberb! xD yeah i had a dream and played a melody with my guitar but well it wasn't so good xD
fangerous200 1 year ago
I get amazing ideas when noone can hear and when its quite around me
MrGreen2Eyes 1 year ago
Hey Geoff,
I'm just curious about something: This technique you're using- are you suggesting humming the melody ideas 'a cappella', or are do you hum them while playing your instrument?
soundsurgeon 1 year ago
5:10 yes, I do then I forget.... and I use my iPod but I get in trouble!! (I'm still in school usually when it comes to me) help?
AlicexBrandonxCullen 1 year ago
@AlicexBrandonxCullen Keep the ipod in your pocket when you get into class and when an idea pops up ask to go to the bathroom.
Zerrith 1 year ago
@AlicexBrandonxCullen Same fucking problem! They ALWAYS hit me in german class and I'm like "Green Day...eat your heart out" and then the bell goes I it leaves me!
Uzzie101 1 year ago
great tips man
ShottaSparX 1 year ago
what mic do you use for recording?
NerdyHobbyistGamer 1 year ago
very helpful
KaylicksLapurps 1 year ago
lol reberb
poopyscoopy5 1 year ago
Thanks for these tips I usually have ten million ideas but no structure you created somewhat of a road map and that helps people like me with no structure.
LilySoSo 1 year ago
Helpful video and the guy has a great attitude too.
chandambao 1 year ago 2
Check out my channel to find out how to write chords and melodies.
thebeatschool 1 year ago
great tips. thanks!
du2xmedia 1 year ago
Great suggestions!
gregmckone 1 year ago
best one on youtube. cheers from toronto.
lawtonarvin 2 years ago
that was awesome, i have discovered sme of those tricks but not gone all the way with all of them so much, cheers
lillilyoungyoung 2 years ago
i write music at all .i just wanted to see how people come up with this stuff
V5production 2 years ago
Great ideas! I'm about to head off and try these to see what works best for me. Thank you for posting this! I'm glad I stumbled upon it!
ERodriguez000 2 years ago
great video! thank you so much
bnamusic94 2 years ago
This is great!
Broadway00Baby 2 years ago
Thanks for this amazing information.
windhorse61 2 years ago
:D yay
FancyPantsArianne 2 years ago 18
Thank you much. It is nice to have a good place to look to for that extra push that I need sometime.
Paterlizzi 2 years ago 2
Probably some of the best songwriting advice I've heard. I'll probably have to watch it a few more times to absorb all the info, but definitely informative.
soundsurgeon 2 years ago
this is really good. thank you for sharing such precious information.
imagine0000 2 years ago 2
I like this video a lot, you seem like a hip lad too - thanks :D
jcnota13 2 years ago
wow, never heard of brainstorming before?
ollecarlsson 2 years ago
I get amazing ideas in the shower...which is kind of bad because I never have a way to write it down or record it. I've lost so many ideas that way.
samanthalynn6790 2 years ago 135
a good idea should stick on your mind right away... i say
ollecarlsson 2 years ago
Buy a cheap voice recorder and hum the melody. Works for me and i have 100's of recordings now.
Crucifuck 2 years ago 3
@samanthalynn6790 Literally right down the drain eh?
TheSparticus316 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 LOL same !!! xD
ramicky16 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 same I get these amazing lyrics that I LOVE and then I get out and I'm like "...what was that?"
AlicexBrandonxCullen 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 Bring a recording device into the bathroom, lay down a mat by the shower to soad up any access water, and whenever you get an idea step out of the shower onto the mat and record it.
Zerrith 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 wow im exactly the same
TheLASTWARLORD 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 i do that alot but i think to myself if i can't remember next day how will anyone else remember it :)
NathanJamesRatcliffe 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 Me too:(
TheRealIsabellaBest 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 you just read my fucking mind.
Milesbakerforguitar 1 year ago
@samanthalynn6790 Same here buddy It fucking sucks...I write songs :) And Its hard for me to make the melody, its the hardest part for me...I finally come up with one and FUCK I forget it -.- lol
scarli100 11 months ago
@scarli100 If you forget it then that means it wasn't that good
MrRrRamon 10 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 if i had a fucking nickel
SCREAMOpants 10 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 omg! me too!!
wormqueen3 10 months ago
@samanthalynn6790
I sometimes hum and beat box into my mp3 player, etc. to capture an idea. My cellular phone also has a recorder built into it. I try to not lose the music in my head! You can purchase a voice recorder for $50 or less.
MeascEntertainment 10 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 I too have great ideas in the shower...which is kind of bad because I never take a shower. =( I've lost so many ideas that way
doomownage94 10 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 The solution is simple. Put a record devide near you when you are singing. : )
alvaritooooooooo 10 months ago
@samanthalynn6790
maybe get a water proof board to put it in your shower
shadowknight132 9 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 i brought a mic into my bathroom to get my ideas down but i didnt get much because i knew it was there
DECIFERTHIS09 7 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 jot down a couple of lines on the shower screen fingay when it has condensed up and gt a peice of paper later and write it down. i fink this woks :P
Goldsinga 7 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 thats why i have a water proof peice of paper:)
hacksaw292 6 months ago
@samanthalynn6790 Sigh, all that inspiration right down the drain.
tornjeenz1 5 months ago
why has nobody watched this video?
speaker3600 2 years ago
this is why miley cyrus' music is in a word crap what emotional trauma would she have been through
gilllie666 2 years ago
Tnx Mayne
rum187 2 years ago
thank you so much!
dubrovkinja90 3 years ago
new zealand or UK?
EverloveMusic 3 years ago
Australian
TaKeAsTePwItHuRmInD 2 years ago
lol I'm pretty sure Aussie. Lol you must be American
xx
xxkierstxx 2 years ago
100 percent sure he is Kiwi. when he says "self explanatory" self sounds definantely Kiwi. In general his voice is voice pronouned, which is more like Kiwi and less like Australian hhahaha,, anyways meh :P
stormtrooper1822 2 years ago
Very nice video, thanks alot
devilwillcryle 3 years ago
lol hahaha .. "uh..is this my next hit singles?" hahaha
7aihung 3 years ago
1234 views. I guess I'm special.
Anyway, great video. =]
Ubernaut 3 years ago
Bob Dylan wrote in his biography that Traveling helped him when writing songs. Especially train traveling.
I liked the video a lot! Thanks.
ilutzio 3 years ago
If you want more information on the stuff Mr. Williams is talking about you can find it all freely available on Win Wenger's "Project Renaissance" website, which is the source of most of Mr. Williams ideas.
outofthemiddle 3 years ago
I found that im most creative while im in my car thanks!
redneckgurl001 3 years ago
Thank you very much!!!!
Great help,
J
januszslusarz69 3 years ago
Keep 'em coming!!
lyricleigh 3 years ago
Awesome video! :) Thanks for posting, it was very helpful!
trevorhoen 3 years ago