The AMR ambulances do this all the time . When going to a Code 3 call using the freeway they merge on , blend into traffic and go the speed limit without using lights and sirens because they believe that it's " safe " . I was taught to turn off the siren when on the highway or freeway and just use the overhead lights unless in heavy traffic . Then turn the siren back on when coming off onto the street . I work in a rural area so sirens are not necessary on rural roads or late at night .
as for going code 2 that fast, the way CHP offices are set up, each officer is assinged his/her own area, and depending on the location of that office, the amount of freeway for one officer to cover can be very large. for instance, in my hometown CHP office, about 10 officers each shift control an area about 30 miles long North to south and 40-50 miles long East to West, so if one unit has to run to back another unit. then that officer has alot of ground to cover in a hurry
part of it is that every department has a different code 3 policy, for instance, in my hometown the code 3 policy is kind of strict, unless someone is dead or dying, there is no reason to go code 3. i am guessing this because i dont know the CHP code 3 policy, but i am guessing that they have a similar code 3 policy, if someone isnt dead or dying, there is no reason to go code 3.
@mattbonds I agree . I work on an ambulance and Code 3 is used for life threatening emergencies , i.e . chest pain , difficulty breathing , heart attack , stroke , drug overdose , poisoning , active seizures , sepsis , any injury with active bleeding , ( exept minor cuts and scrapes ) , burns second degree or above , gunshot wounds , stab wounds , women in labor , distressed infants , allergic reactions , and traffic collisions . Anything other than that , you'll have to wait a bit .
Of course, there is always the possibility he was trying to catch up to that car he was tailing down the ramp without spooking him, then pulled him over down the ramp where it's safer to make a traffic stop off the highway.
Just had a CHP go by me on an off/on ramp, Made left turn from the right turn lane at the light and went , with traffic, under the overpass. NOT safe at all. No lights, no siren. Just didnt want to wait in the long line of cars, merge and maybe miss the light. I watched him as he made the freeway transition, and was just cruisin. LAME!
How do you know he wasnt going to a home invasion in progress or something like that? OR he wasnt going to a code 2 call, but it cancelled because other units were closer etc? OR that was the even same car, did you get his plate when he "blew your doors off"? There is more then one CHP car out there.
The point is you dont know. BUT I will tell you this. If he was hauling ass just for the fun of it and he losses control, he will be charged like everyone else and sued like everyone else.
You make the statement "For no reason at all." Respectfully, I disagree. You have no idea where he was going or why. As a long-time law enforcement officer, I know that there are occasions where we have to get somewhere quickly and quietly. The fact is that, as one person said, sometimes the use of lights and sirens can cause people to react in ways that cause more problems. I understand your perception, but; you don't know what he was doing. Catching that car before he could run???
By not activating his lights or siren, he kept him or herself open to weaving in traffic although exceeding the speed limit in the performance of duties. The officer caught up to and pulled behind the vehicle that was to be stopped. BY activating lights and siren the officer would have had to have passed everyone on the left side because the VC and dept policies prohibit passing on the right unless lives are at risk.
i saw a 2011 or what ever the heck ford super duty OPP undercover white truck last night.. pulled someone over it is such a fuckin cheap thing to do.. it looks like your every day ford truck.. sneaky for them but so cheap D:< yes im mad!
@kws45fl I was just talking about that. How many times have you been driving down the road and see a regular black charger or a retired crown vic and go "fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckkkkk...oh." when its not a cop? Shit sucks!
CHP responds to calls in this fashion. They do not usually engage their lights/sirens while on the freeway because it makes people swerve and crash. Fire Engines/Ambulances follow this same rule in California.
I see it different. He has got a car in his sights already. He is creeping up on them. He pulls to the right to exit behind the car he wants. Some times I think It would be fun to be a cop. But I think I would run out of bullets. lol
Remember. You are either part of solution. Or YOU ARE PART OF the PROBLEM.
He probably used his lights to clear a path to get ahead so he can trail that truck/suv..when he gets close he cuts the lights then gets behind the target and when further info from dispatch on the vehicle/driver come back...he will light them up.
To be honest, trying to hide, by not putting lights/sirens on, when you're driving a Black/White Crown Vic is like trying not to wake someone up by playing a drum solo in their bedroom.
Come on dude, you have no idea what he was doing....probably going to an accident code 2 in a hurry. When you turn on your lights and sirens, it often slows down everything and causes problems. Just worry about yourself and stop buying into conspiracy theories.
@ladyandcookie And if I get pulled over for speeding and say, "You have no idea what I am doing...", does that qualify for exemption? There is a point to getting somewhere quickly and running without lights, I get that. But, what is that threshold? I guess not 100+ in moderate traffic.
I am not some cop hating scum, I respect their job. They do a job I could never perform.
@LongSniper Well, yeah, depending on what you are doing it is up to the person that pulled you over to decide. Is it always fair, no. Do all officers only speed to official duties? NO. Do you get a ticket every time you're pulled over? No. So civilians automatically get tickets when they speed? No. Life is such. I would expect that he or she was on the way to a call or pacing a car in front of them. I can't prove it but that is what I think. Cool video stay safe.
@ladyandcookie I appreciate the comments. It's why I leave it on here. I don't censor opinions I don't like. I just try to get people to think outside of the box.
I meant Police Chiefs and commissioners , sergeants, and politicians watch the police. If you get a ticket or not depends the reason, mood of the officer, the agency they work for, their pet peeves, what call they just finished with, and if they have written tickets enough this month. Not always fair, but the way it is.
@ladyandcookie He could have been checkin out the car he's behind on the exit, or maybe not. I dont see why the CHP didnt cruise the HOV lane until time to exit. Maybe was after that car. usually they will use lights at least. Who knows?
@ladyandcookie i think i would have to agree with you, after thinking about it. people arent the smartest when they drive. they would much rather be "OOH LOOK AT THE PRETTY LIGHTS, LETS SLOW DOWN SO I CAN LOOK LONGER!!" at a code 3 then getting out of the way. and then people get all pissed (not talking about the person that posted video, just generally speaking) when they try to take measures to eliminate the slowdown from lights.which by chance just makes it seem like cops speed for no reason.
2) Been burned by cops before because they tracked the wrong car. I have a fairly common car in a common color. Been ticketed wrongfully, tried to fight it, and lost.
You don't need to be paranoid to have a dashcam. Just had to be screwed over by a cop once, or witnessed something awesome that you wish you had a camera to capture, or been into an accident where it isn't your fault and wished you had footage of it.
As an officer my self, there are times that I cannot use my warning signals. Here's a good example: There is a burglary in progress and the suspects are still inside the residence. I don't want them to know I am outside. I will not use any of my signals all the way there. That generally does involve going over the speed limit if a person is in harm. That could be what this very officer is doing. There could be a disturbance alongside the highway or right near the roadway.
@badlieutenant13 Cool info, my brother desires to be CHP one day. With budget cuts, I hope he can achieve his goals. He has been wanting terrible to do a RAL, but hes too young yet (17).
Walk into any CHP office, ask the officer at the front desk that you'd like to speak with a Sgt., show that Sgt. your video and express to that Sgt. your concerns. Seriously. You will not be laughed at or scolded. If you are as concerned as you say you are, there's NO reason you shouldn't do this. Then post that Sgt.'s response. If you want to be fair about this.
@badlieutenant13 I contemplated this when it happened, but without any I.D., it would just be another case of "We will review it." and nothing will come out of it. There are always good and bad apples out of a bunch, and I don't like to punish those who do their job with a sense of honor and respect to the community. Plus based on the feedback, I do not know 100% what was going on. So, it would just turn into a dead topic rather quickly.
Look at it this way...I have 10 hours stuck in a 4 square mile sector. I spend 90% of my unassigned time (any time not on a call) cruising well under the limit looking for trouble. I have nowhere else to go. So if you see me doing 100+, with or without lights, you can pretty much assume its for a damn good reason. Especially since the paperwork for wrecking the city's cruiser is unbelievable--and usually comes with a disciplinary memo that means lost pay.
@hokisazchka I can run with that, and I agree. I'm not a cop hating scum bag that will cry wolf the second a guy breaks into my home. I respect your job and what you guys/gals have to deal with. I know I could not deal with the retardation you have to deal with on a daily basis. All I ask for is accountability for actions, just as I would have to for you guys. Nothing more and nothing less.
One consideration I haven't seen discussed yet is a situation that happens more often than a lot of people think: Vehicle matches a felony suspect vehicle description. Could be a carjacked vehicle, perhaps a stolen that was just used in a robbery or home invasion...whatever. Same make, model, color, occupant description. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, so have to check it out. You light up, if it is the vehicle they run while you're 2 miles back. So you jump on them before they know it.
@13555pen89ce9 Totally agree about how they are trained to drive in that manner. However, if I take advanced driving courses, does that allow me to drive that way too if I can test to the same level as a LEO? In that case, it is a double standard. As commented below, I can not say 100% of what was going on, I only comment on the manner of his driving and my opinion. My opinion is just that, my view on it. Yours may vary from mine, it is up to you to decide if you agree with it or not.
There are only certain situations that you are required to use lights an sirens. Then general public has this wrong idea by what you see on tv. Some calls require a fast response WITHOUT lights and sirens. Its ALOT easier to navigate traffic by driving like that, then sitting in the left lane, waiting for people to move out of the way. I suggest you go do a ride-along with your local CHP office and see it for yourself.
@spunkpirate As I commented below, this was suggested to me by ex-LEOs because people get confused and freak out when there is a cop behind you. Plus, you out-run your siren at speeds above 70 MPH. I agree that in most situations this would be acceptable, like trying to get to a domestic, robbery, or other violent crime. I totally agree, get there ASAP. But my point is for a simple traffic violation, it seems a bit much.
@spunkpirate Now, you would be correct as I do not know the situation. It could have been a traffic stop or a response to something more dire. My real concern is him/her weaving through traffic that whole time when the carpool lane was 100% free. If it was truly an emergency, it would make more sense to be in a lane where little traffic could suddenly jump into his lane and he could get to where he needed to get to, in a safer manner.
Uh, if they're trying do a car stop, they may maneuver through traffic that way. What are you insinuating? It always amazes me when people make judgement calls on matters that know nothing about.
@jujumediazone I only suggested what was suggested to me by ex-LEOs. One pointed out that they are taught not to. People rarely see you until you are on their bumper and wont get out of the way in time. So, they are faster moving through traffic without lights. That I totally get, but doing so at 100+ MPH for just a traffic stop seems a bit over the top. Going to a domestic or armed robbery? By all means, get there ASAP. But for traffic stop, this seems a bit much. If your a LEO, please chime in
@LongSniper But you should never assume that it is just a casual car stop. And you have to admit that you had already arrived at a conclusion that this CHP officer was doing something he shouldn't have been doing. That's not fair, nor objective but rather directly accusational. Sure, it "looked" like a car stop but we don't know if that vehicle fit the description of another vehicle involved in a serious crime or not. Never go by what things appear. And by the way, I'm not a cop.
@jujumediazone Fair enough, I can run with that. I encourage discussions on my videos. As long as they are kept respectful and don't turn into bashing, then by all means, discuss away! They allow all of us to see sides of an argument that we not think of. A more informed person is an intelligent person.
Eh, not a cop but I can see both sides of it. Totally get what you're saying as far as being aware of them passing but also see from their perspective say they are trying to catch up to someone a quarter mile down the road, if they throw their lights on then, if that guy knows he did something wrong, he'd be way more inclined to think he could lose them and by then the cop would have alot of catching up to do.
@Cjl99 im not one to poke at LEOs just because I hate police, I respect them for their job. I can see 80-90 MPH with no lights chasing down a speeder, but 100+? I would even say maybe 110-120 MPH with no lights? While weaving in and out of traffic?
In any case, I discussed this on a different forum and an ex-LEO threw out that he may have been called in for back-up, and then called off. He also pointed out that at speeds above 70 MPH, you "outrun your siren". Okay, I can run with that.
@LongSniper But still, weaving through traffic at over 100 MPH is just not safe in any book. If it is really that important, atleast throw on some light so when you do blow past us, we know it is truly for an emergency...
The AMR ambulances do this all the time . When going to a Code 3 call using the freeway they merge on , blend into traffic and go the speed limit without using lights and sirens because they believe that it's " safe " . I was taught to turn off the siren when on the highway or freeway and just use the overhead lights unless in heavy traffic . Then turn the siren back on when coming off onto the street . I work in a rural area so sirens are not necessary on rural roads or late at night .
Medic83301 1 week ago
as for going code 2 that fast, the way CHP offices are set up, each officer is assinged his/her own area, and depending on the location of that office, the amount of freeway for one officer to cover can be very large. for instance, in my hometown CHP office, about 10 officers each shift control an area about 30 miles long North to south and 40-50 miles long East to West, so if one unit has to run to back another unit. then that officer has alot of ground to cover in a hurry
mattbonds 1 month ago
part of it is that every department has a different code 3 policy, for instance, in my hometown the code 3 policy is kind of strict, unless someone is dead or dying, there is no reason to go code 3. i am guessing this because i dont know the CHP code 3 policy, but i am guessing that they have a similar code 3 policy, if someone isnt dead or dying, there is no reason to go code 3.
mattbonds 1 month ago
@mattbonds I agree . I work on an ambulance and Code 3 is used for life threatening emergencies , i.e . chest pain , difficulty breathing , heart attack , stroke , drug overdose , poisoning , active seizures , sepsis , any injury with active bleeding , ( exept minor cuts and scrapes ) , burns second degree or above , gunshot wounds , stab wounds , women in labor , distressed infants , allergic reactions , and traffic collisions . Anything other than that , you'll have to wait a bit .
Medic83301 1 week ago
Ya he could have been running to a call code 2 then cancelled.
JAYSTRIKER 1 month ago
Of course, there is always the possibility he was trying to catch up to that car he was tailing down the ramp without spooking him, then pulled him over down the ramp where it's safer to make a traffic stop off the highway.
407pilot 1 month ago
hahaha i love it. CHP makes it look easy.
xn117 1 month ago
Just had a CHP go by me on an off/on ramp, Made left turn from the right turn lane at the light and went , with traffic, under the overpass. NOT safe at all. No lights, no siren. Just didnt want to wait in the long line of cars, merge and maybe miss the light. I watched him as he made the freeway transition, and was just cruisin. LAME!
rustynalez 2 months ago
Rockin' the Boingo! :D
CaramelDingo 2 months ago
How do you know he wasnt going to a home invasion in progress or something like that? OR he wasnt going to a code 2 call, but it cancelled because other units were closer etc? OR that was the even same car, did you get his plate when he "blew your doors off"? There is more then one CHP car out there.
The point is you dont know. BUT I will tell you this. If he was hauling ass just for the fun of it and he losses control, he will be charged like everyone else and sued like everyone else.
jsuds12 2 months ago
Many places no not require law enforcement to engage lights when catching up to a suspect or whomever they are looking to stop...
jjoncm1 2 months ago
You make the statement "For no reason at all." Respectfully, I disagree. You have no idea where he was going or why. As a long-time law enforcement officer, I know that there are occasions where we have to get somewhere quickly and quietly. The fact is that, as one person said, sometimes the use of lights and sirens can cause people to react in ways that cause more problems. I understand your perception, but; you don't know what he was doing. Catching that car before he could run???
FireSarge30 2 months ago
By not activating his lights or siren, he kept him or herself open to weaving in traffic although exceeding the speed limit in the performance of duties. The officer caught up to and pulled behind the vehicle that was to be stopped. BY activating lights and siren the officer would have had to have passed everyone on the left side because the VC and dept policies prohibit passing on the right unless lives are at risk.
Spadadiforza 2 months ago
i saw a 2011 or what ever the heck ford super duty OPP undercover white truck last night.. pulled someone over it is such a fuckin cheap thing to do.. it looks like your every day ford truck.. sneaky for them but so cheap D:< yes im mad!
kws45fl 3 months ago
@kws45fl I was just talking about that. How many times have you been driving down the road and see a regular black charger or a retired crown vic and go "fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckkkkk...oh." when its not a cop? Shit sucks!
RickinIsh2 2 months ago
yea they dont put their sirens on until they are right behind the car they want to pull over.
anttrap321 3 months ago
CHP responds to calls in this fashion. They do not usually engage their lights/sirens while on the freeway because it makes people swerve and crash. Fire Engines/Ambulances follow this same rule in California.
SquadCo288 3 months ago
I see it different. He has got a car in his sights already. He is creeping up on them. He pulls to the right to exit behind the car he wants. Some times I think It would be fun to be a cop. But I think I would run out of bullets. lol
Remember. You are either part of solution. Or YOU ARE PART OF the PROBLEM.
mrebikr 3 months ago
He probably used his lights to clear a path to get ahead so he can trail that truck/suv..when he gets close he cuts the lights then gets behind the target and when further info from dispatch on the vehicle/driver come back...he will light them up.
navyguyhm3 3 months ago
To be honest, trying to hide, by not putting lights/sirens on, when you're driving a Black/White Crown Vic is like trying not to wake someone up by playing a drum solo in their bedroom.
Someloke8895 3 months ago 7
@Someloke8895 That made me laugh because it is so true. Unless it is night time, you can't miss them.
LongSniper 3 months ago 3
Come on dude, you have no idea what he was doing....probably going to an accident code 2 in a hurry. When you turn on your lights and sirens, it often slows down everything and causes problems. Just worry about yourself and stop buying into conspiracy theories.
ladyandcookie 3 months ago 9
@ladyandcookie And if I get pulled over for speeding and say, "You have no idea what I am doing...", does that qualify for exemption? There is a point to getting somewhere quickly and running without lights, I get that. But, what is that threshold? I guess not 100+ in moderate traffic.
I am not some cop hating scum, I respect their job. They do a job I could never perform.
But who watches the watchers?
LongSniper 3 months ago
@LongSniper Well, yeah, depending on what you are doing it is up to the person that pulled you over to decide. Is it always fair, no. Do all officers only speed to official duties? NO. Do you get a ticket every time you're pulled over? No. So civilians automatically get tickets when they speed? No. Life is such. I would expect that he or she was on the way to a call or pacing a car in front of them. I can't prove it but that is what I think. Cool video stay safe.
ladyandcookie 3 months ago 3
@ladyandcookie I appreciate the comments. It's why I leave it on here. I don't censor opinions I don't like. I just try to get people to think outside of the box.
Have a nice day.
LongSniper 3 months ago
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ladyandcookie 3 months ago
I meant Police Chiefs and commissioners , sergeants, and politicians watch the police. If you get a ticket or not depends the reason, mood of the officer, the agency they work for, their pet peeves, what call they just finished with, and if they have written tickets enough this month. Not always fair, but the way it is.
ladyandcookie 3 months ago
@LongSniper That it was traffic court is for..
RipFlm 1 month ago
@ladyandcookie He could have been checkin out the car he's behind on the exit, or maybe not. I dont see why the CHP didnt cruise the HOV lane until time to exit. Maybe was after that car. usually they will use lights at least. Who knows?
rustynalez 2 months ago
@ladyandcookie i think i would have to agree with you, after thinking about it. people arent the smartest when they drive. they would much rather be "OOH LOOK AT THE PRETTY LIGHTS, LETS SLOW DOWN SO I CAN LOOK LONGER!!" at a code 3 then getting out of the way. and then people get all pissed (not talking about the person that posted video, just generally speaking) when they try to take measures to eliminate the slowdown from lights.which by chance just makes it seem like cops speed for no reason.
spiker84 1 week ago
This is silly. If you're following a suspect, or trying to catch up to one, you definitely don't want them to see you, so no lights/siren.
This begs the question, are you so paranoid that you videotape everywhere you go?
sodon10 3 months ago
@sodon10
I video record for two reasons:
1) In case of accident
2) Been burned by cops before because they tracked the wrong car. I have a fairly common car in a common color. Been ticketed wrongfully, tried to fight it, and lost.
LongSniper 3 months ago
@sodon10
You don't need to be paranoid to have a dashcam. Just had to be screwed over by a cop once, or witnessed something awesome that you wish you had a camera to capture, or been into an accident where it isn't your fault and wished you had footage of it.
diggingforgold 3 months ago
As an officer my self, there are times that I cannot use my warning signals. Here's a good example: There is a burglary in progress and the suspects are still inside the residence. I don't want them to know I am outside. I will not use any of my signals all the way there. That generally does involve going over the speed limit if a person is in harm. That could be what this very officer is doing. There could be a disturbance alongside the highway or right near the roadway.
rileyhmt 4 months ago 2
Lift Of hahahahahahaa
DaNnYbLaZeR 4 months ago
How do you know he didn't have a reason? Some calls require no lights or sirens, but require rapid response. Just a thought.
Callihandawg 4 months ago
Again, read comments below as I have address this. All I ask for is accountability should something go wrong.
LongSniper 4 months ago
@LongSniper And you would get it. They would be responsible, unless they were not at fault.
Callihandawg 4 months ago
Spunkpirate is correct, except for the ride-a-long (RAL), you have to be an applicant in order to do a RAL.
badlieutenant13 4 months ago
@badlieutenant13 Cool info, my brother desires to be CHP one day. With budget cuts, I hope he can achieve his goals. He has been wanting terrible to do a RAL, but hes too young yet (17).
LongSniper 4 months ago
Walk into any CHP office, ask the officer at the front desk that you'd like to speak with a Sgt., show that Sgt. your video and express to that Sgt. your concerns. Seriously. You will not be laughed at or scolded. If you are as concerned as you say you are, there's NO reason you shouldn't do this. Then post that Sgt.'s response. If you want to be fair about this.
badlieutenant13 4 months ago
@badlieutenant13 I contemplated this when it happened, but without any I.D., it would just be another case of "We will review it." and nothing will come out of it. There are always good and bad apples out of a bunch, and I don't like to punish those who do their job with a sense of honor and respect to the community. Plus based on the feedback, I do not know 100% what was going on. So, it would just turn into a dead topic rather quickly.
LongSniper 4 months ago
The only crime here is the music.
kenny1309 4 months ago
@kenny1309 lol, I guess our tastes in music differs!
LongSniper 4 months ago
Look at it this way...I have 10 hours stuck in a 4 square mile sector. I spend 90% of my unassigned time (any time not on a call) cruising well under the limit looking for trouble. I have nowhere else to go. So if you see me doing 100+, with or without lights, you can pretty much assume its for a damn good reason. Especially since the paperwork for wrecking the city's cruiser is unbelievable--and usually comes with a disciplinary memo that means lost pay.
hokisazchka 4 months ago
@hokisazchka I can run with that, and I agree. I'm not a cop hating scum bag that will cry wolf the second a guy breaks into my home. I respect your job and what you guys/gals have to deal with. I know I could not deal with the retardation you have to deal with on a daily basis. All I ask for is accountability for actions, just as I would have to for you guys. Nothing more and nothing less.
LongSniper 4 months ago
One consideration I haven't seen discussed yet is a situation that happens more often than a lot of people think: Vehicle matches a felony suspect vehicle description. Could be a carjacked vehicle, perhaps a stolen that was just used in a robbery or home invasion...whatever. Same make, model, color, occupant description. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, so have to check it out. You light up, if it is the vehicle they run while you're 2 miles back. So you jump on them before they know it.
hokisazchka 4 months ago
When on the highway, it is actually worse to turn on lights/sirens, and we (EMS, Fire, LEOs) are taught this in our EVOC classes.
If you weren't a civilian and actually had experience running code 3, you'd know this.
Linussbugg 4 months ago
@Linussbugg Hence, what I posted below awhile back.
LongSniper 4 months ago
@13555pen89ce9 Totally agree about how they are trained to drive in that manner. However, if I take advanced driving courses, does that allow me to drive that way too if I can test to the same level as a LEO? In that case, it is a double standard. As commented below, I can not say 100% of what was going on, I only comment on the manner of his driving and my opinion. My opinion is just that, my view on it. Yours may vary from mine, it is up to you to decide if you agree with it or not.
LongSniper 4 months ago
There are only certain situations that you are required to use lights an sirens. Then general public has this wrong idea by what you see on tv. Some calls require a fast response WITHOUT lights and sirens. Its ALOT easier to navigate traffic by driving like that, then sitting in the left lane, waiting for people to move out of the way. I suggest you go do a ride-along with your local CHP office and see it for yourself.
spunkpirate 5 months ago
@spunkpirate As I commented below, this was suggested to me by ex-LEOs because people get confused and freak out when there is a cop behind you. Plus, you out-run your siren at speeds above 70 MPH. I agree that in most situations this would be acceptable, like trying to get to a domestic, robbery, or other violent crime. I totally agree, get there ASAP. But my point is for a simple traffic violation, it seems a bit much.
LongSniper 5 months ago
@spunkpirate Now, you would be correct as I do not know the situation. It could have been a traffic stop or a response to something more dire. My real concern is him/her weaving through traffic that whole time when the carpool lane was 100% free. If it was truly an emergency, it would make more sense to be in a lane where little traffic could suddenly jump into his lane and he could get to where he needed to get to, in a safer manner.
LongSniper 5 months ago
Uh, if they're trying do a car stop, they may maneuver through traffic that way. What are you insinuating? It always amazes me when people make judgement calls on matters that know nothing about.
jujumediazone 5 months ago
@jujumediazone I only suggested what was suggested to me by ex-LEOs. One pointed out that they are taught not to. People rarely see you until you are on their bumper and wont get out of the way in time. So, they are faster moving through traffic without lights. That I totally get, but doing so at 100+ MPH for just a traffic stop seems a bit over the top. Going to a domestic or armed robbery? By all means, get there ASAP. But for traffic stop, this seems a bit much. If your a LEO, please chime in
LongSniper 5 months ago
@LongSniper But you should never assume that it is just a casual car stop. And you have to admit that you had already arrived at a conclusion that this CHP officer was doing something he shouldn't have been doing. That's not fair, nor objective but rather directly accusational. Sure, it "looked" like a car stop but we don't know if that vehicle fit the description of another vehicle involved in a serious crime or not. Never go by what things appear. And by the way, I'm not a cop.
jujumediazone 5 months ago
@jujumediazone Fair enough, I can run with that. I encourage discussions on my videos. As long as they are kept respectful and don't turn into bashing, then by all means, discuss away! They allow all of us to see sides of an argument that we not think of. A more informed person is an intelligent person.
LongSniper 5 months ago
You shouldn't talk about things when you have no clue what you are even talking about.
sdc081983 5 months ago
Eh, not a cop but I can see both sides of it. Totally get what you're saying as far as being aware of them passing but also see from their perspective say they are trying to catch up to someone a quarter mile down the road, if they throw their lights on then, if that guy knows he did something wrong, he'd be way more inclined to think he could lose them and by then the cop would have alot of catching up to do.
Cjl99 6 months ago
@Cjl99 im not one to poke at LEOs just because I hate police, I respect them for their job. I can see 80-90 MPH with no lights chasing down a speeder, but 100+? I would even say maybe 110-120 MPH with no lights? While weaving in and out of traffic?
In any case, I discussed this on a different forum and an ex-LEO threw out that he may have been called in for back-up, and then called off. He also pointed out that at speeds above 70 MPH, you "outrun your siren". Okay, I can run with that.
LongSniper 5 months ago
@LongSniper But still, weaving through traffic at over 100 MPH is just not safe in any book. If it is really that important, atleast throw on some light so when you do blow past us, we know it is truly for an emergency...
LongSniper 5 months ago
He was probably in a hurry to get to a doughnut shop.
lfsracer79 6 months ago