I wish the title of this video indicated it was from the movie "61*" and not the actual footage of the 61st homer. But Billy Crystal, Barry Pepper as Roger, and everyone else did a terrific job on it. And the guy below is right: Roger didn't have the right temperament to face the New York press, but that was no excuse for the way he was treated. "He's no Babe Ruth." Yeah, well, those guys were no Ring Lardner or Paul Gallico, the guys who covered Ruth. Somebody should have told them that.
I remember when Roger came over to the Cardinals in 1967. His power stats were gone in that larger Busch Stadium, but he had a decent year and an outstanding World Series against Boston. Plus, I think he was relaxed for the first time in his career. Roger was a very decent person, and perhaps a bit too shy to deal with the hardcore press in New York. Mantle was a natural with the press.
not only didnt Roger Maris take helpful drugs, he also played with a 4 pack a day cigarette habit, much like his pal Mickey Mantle played perhaps a third or more of his games with a hangover, or still in the bag...compare that with what Bonds, McGuire, Palmeiro, Clemens and on and on.....not even close. Those punks have no business in any record book.
I just viewed the movie 61. I had no idea he had that kind of pressure on him. always in the shadow of mantle. he would have stayed in the shadow if mantle didn't go out. i still beleive he is the true home run king!!
Let me bring this point to a close. I often hear that steroids weren't around in the '60's. I blame the press for that misconception. They never gave a history of steroid use in sports. As far as I've read, anabolic steroids AS THEY EXIST TODAY made their way into athletic competition in 1954. They entered the Olympics, college and pro football, bodybuilding, ect., but we're to believe that they leapfrogged past baseball 'til the '90's? C'mon.
Roger Maris was 6 ft. tall and weighed about 195 pounds. Pretty normal for a guy with a naturally athletic physique. A player today who stands 6 ft. tall weighs 220 - 230. Maris never suddenly bulked up 20 or 30 pounds over the course of a few seasons, as players today do. In fact, very few baseball players from that era even lifted weights. And of course, steroids are useless unless you hit the gym. Maris was not on steroids.
lonedove 1981, I'm sure you're an intelligent fellow, although I can't tell based on what you've written. Calm down, STOP CURSING because when you curse you tend to lose your listener, and just take another look at the facts .... objectively this time, and simply apply a little common sense, which I'm sure you have stored up in abundance. In fact, it's probably overflowing.
Think Nolan Ryan did it all on "guts and glory," pitching all those no-hitters and amasing all those strikeouts well into his forties? Keep dreaming. I bet you believe Roger Clemens' denials, too.
Whoever said I was pro-steroids? What I'm saying is that PED use is part of a longstanding culture of baseball and of sports in general, and that you're being incredibly naive if you believe that all of this got started in the 1990's. That's nonsense. You don't think Cal Ripken had help playing 2632 straight games? Think he did it all on bacon, eggs and grits in the morn? Even average people like you and me at least need coffee to start our days.
And just how do you know that Gibson, Koufax and all the rest didn't take PED's. We all know, or should know, that amphetamines were widely used in baseball for generations. Jim Bouton discussed it in "Ball Four," John Milner accused Willie Mays of taking them, and Bonds even tested positive for them. Yet, no one batted an eye. Why? Because everyone already KNOWS that if you jail every major leaguer who takes amphetamines, midtown parking would be no problem.
That's a perfectly logical question, and it applies just as logically to Yastrzemski. If either of those guys were Bonds, Sosa or any modern day "cheater" with those numbers, you'd instantly say he was on steroids. And what does the fact that Tom House wasn't a star player have to do with this? Most of the players who take steroids aren't stars, as the Mitchell Report that you find so believable indicates.
Now, get off of your subjective, hero-worshipping high horse for a moment and read back at what I've written. What I said was that reporters cite spikes in players' HR numbers as evidence of steroid use. Now, we have a player who connects widespread steroid use to the '60's, when a single-season HR record was set by someone who's numbers spiked just as dramatically as Bonds' and Sosa's. My question is why aren't these same reporters accusing Maris?
The Nash, Zullo and Smith book actually does link Ruth to extract from sheep testes, a popular PED in his day. They say it made him sick, I say perhaps only that particular occasion. The Babe seemed to have an addictive and hard-charging countenance, so it's hard for me to believe that he stopped injecting himself with this PED because it made him sick on this occasion. I'm sure booze (hangovers) and sex (venereal diseases) made him sick, too, but that didn't him from indulging in those vices.
Check out an article entitled "Bonding with the Babe," by Dave Zirin, a sports journalist who contributes to the magazine, "The Nation." Also, download "The Baeball Hall of Shame's Book of Warped Records" by Bruce Nash, Allan Zullo and Bob Smith. That should at least get you started on acquiring a broader perspective on this issue. Also, look up Tom House and what he had to say on this subject and ask why these people are never heard from on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, ESPN, etc.
If he had gotten busted (this was back in the '70's), do you think the team doc and the coach would have come forth and taken the heat? Heck no, I assure of that. That naive college athlete would have been on his own. Balding, by the way, is one of the known side effects of setroid use. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it still happens.
Also note that, for the veteran Yaz, 1966 had been one of his better seasons prior to his "breakout" year. He clearly was no star prior to that. Perhaps a slightly above-average player, but no star. Suddenly, though, he starts whacking the ball like Hank Aaron and no one questions that, particularly in light of Tom House's startling revelations?
I see that Carl Yastrzemski, in 1967, had 44HR, 121RBI and batted .326, winning the coveted Triple Crown. The year before, with 15 MORE at-bats, he had jsu 16HR, 80RBI with just a .278 avg. In fact, prior to '67, his numbers were never glowing. Look for yourself. Yet, he spikes by 28 homers in 1967. House says steroids were abundant in the '60's. ready to start questioning Yaz? The same priciple applies to him as it does to Bonds, Sosa and all the rest of the modern "cheaters."
The explanantions offered by Ankiel and Paul Byrd were just as ridiculous as everyone claims Bonds' are. Yet, no one is vilifying them them the same way Bonds is getting roasted. The public seems totally uninterested, ditto the prosecutors. They just appear to be after one man.
All I'm saying is think outside the box. Never just accept out-of-hand what mass media is offering. I mean, no matter how many times the press has been proven to be manipulative or just outright misleading, we still embrace what they have to say while dismissing our own independent thinking. I mean, for goodness' sake, you have the internet. There's no excuse for not doing your own research. Use it to start thinking outside the box.
Oh, and management would be implicated as well. It's simply impossible for all of this to have gone on without the knowledge and complicity of management -- at ALL levels.
I'll tell you why. It's because if the truth comes out, their agenda is vastly compromised. They'd have to acknowledge that the Cobbs, Ruths, Gehrigs, Mantles and Maris' all did their little dirt as far as PED's are concerned because PED's have been around just that long. They ALL did it, and you're being totally naive to think otherwise.
You mentioned something about the facts in an earlier post... do ypu know that for a FACT that Ruth, Cobb, Maris, etc... did anything to enhance their performance.
I can't tell you spefically that Ruth, Maris, Cobb, etc. took steroids, but I can tell you what was popular in their day and, yes, they would be classifieed as performance enhancing drugs. My point is that PED's are very much a staple of sports. A track star friend of mine was being given pills back in college. Neither the coach nor the team doc ever told him what they were. He's been bald for many years now, a trait that doesn't even run in his family. Likely a side effect.
And meanwhile, the Feds and the media have essentially targeted just one man in this so-called steroids scandal: Barry Bonds. If they've eaxamined baseball's long, long history and culture of PED'S, they sure aren't sharing their knowledge with the public. Why doesn't CNN, ABC, NBC, ESPN or any of the other new outlets do a hsitorical work-up of steroid use in baseball?
To say that the Feds are going after Bonds simply because he "lied" to the GJ is to ignore everything that has happened both before and since. We all KNEW that McGwire was hyped up on andro, and should have been just as suspicious that he was on 'roids, but he got a free pass. No such luck with Bonds. In fact, even now, I don't see the Feds knocking at Jay Gibbons' or Rick Ankiel's door to get them to snitch on their suppliers, do you?
Performance enhancing drugs have been a staple of sports since the ancient Greeks. Yet, the press would have you believe that all of this got started in the '90's, and the poor public has just taken this ridiculous notion and run with it. We all know about the '60's Eastern Euro athletes, Arnold Schwarzenegger, pro football and track & field, yet we accept laughable belief that baseball somehow escaped steroid use during that same period. C'mon. That's ridiculous!
Bonds spiked by 24 from '00 to 01, Sosa by 30 from '97 to '98, and Ruth by 23 from '19 to'20. In '61, Mantle would have enjoyed a similar spike but for missing the last weeks of the season with, get this, A BOIL ON HIS RUMP. If that were Bonds, we'd be calling it an infected needle wound. The point is, how do Maris, Ruth, Mantle and all the rest of the "legends" escape scrutiny if steroids were around when they played?
Reporters enjoy looking at spikes in home run numbers to make their case about steroid use. Well, Maris's home run spike from 1960 to 1961 rivaled those of Sosa and Bonds from their previous years before subsiding back down his usual output. Maris spiked from 39HR in 1960 to 61HR in 1961. People would use those numbers today to say that a player used steroids. But if steroids were being used back in the '60's, how come nobody's accusing Maris? He probably used them, too.
Tom House, former Braves reliever who caught Hank Aaron's 715th homer in the home bullpen (look him up), says steroid and HGH use in baseball was widespread as far back as the 1960's. I immediately thought, "A single-season homer run ecord was set in the 1960's, also." So I looked up Maris's numbers.
If I can remember Tom House was on a baseball card with Johnny Bench (around 1968)as the Reds top rookies... So he couldn't say if Maris was on anything back then as he would stii been in jr/high school.
Go back and read what I wrote. I never said that House evr accused Maris of being on "anything back then." What I asked was if a player is linking widespread steroid use in baseball all the way back to the '60's, a decade in which a single-season HR record was set, then how come no one is listening to him or questioning the record-setter, Roger Maris?
Why don't you go back and suck Bonds dick... all you do is to quote on third rate pitcher... Why is it Gibson, Koufax, Berra, F. Robinson, Santo, Lasorda, McCovey, Ford, E. and F. Howard... etc never said anything about such uses... Also if Maris was on anything don't you think the NY press would've said something... thay had their inside contacts... also the press hated Maris and if anything was wrong we would've found out... So you can take you pro steroid use and shove it up your ass
I really don't know what it is with you guys and the foul language.
Look, you can believe whatever makes sense to you. If you'd rather believe the hearsay commentary of some strength coach that forms the basis of a report prepared by a man who sits on the Red Sox Board (hence, no Red Sox are named) that names 20 Yankees, with most of the remaining names being Met and Oriole players, then go right ahead. I'll take the word of a "third rate pitcher" over those sources any day.
Then I proceeded to answer some of those questions myself. Maris's homer spike was no less significant than Bonds and Sosa's. Steroids have been in amateur sports (Olympics) at least since the 1950's, and in the 1960's pro football players were threatened with fines if they didn't take steroids provided by the teams. If this were going on today, we'd have no problem connecting players to steroid use. Why should it be any different for Maris, Mantle and even Ruth?
What's with the name calling? I simply asked you a question.
Performance enhancing drugs have been in baseball since the 1800's, starting with Hall of Fame pitcher Pud Galvin, the first documented case. Players back then injected sheep testosterone and took strychnine formtheir performance edge, and, yes, Babe Ruth allegedly did, too. This went on for generations, and this what mass media is NOT telling the public. They make you think PED's in baseball are recent.
roger maris is still the home run king
shortziznice 2 years ago
can someone please download this movie
MrRogermaris 2 years ago
It such a labour of love for Billy Crystal,
the movie is incredibly authentic.
17865329 2 years ago
I never knew he was son of Croatian immigrants, I learn new things every day :D
RepublikaTwo 2 years ago
best baseball movie ever made. "61"
rootber200 3 years ago
Hate to take anything away from Roger but he did play 8 more games than the Babe.
Steelers26426 3 years ago
Yes.. but if you read into the stats, he also had less total at bats during the season.
jasonthefox 2 years ago
It's sad that Maris never knew he was the sole single season home run king.
eugene680 1 year ago
I wish the title of this video indicated it was from the movie "61*" and not the actual footage of the 61st homer. But Billy Crystal, Barry Pepper as Roger, and everyone else did a terrific job on it. And the guy below is right: Roger didn't have the right temperament to face the New York press, but that was no excuse for the way he was treated. "He's no Babe Ruth." Yeah, well, those guys were no Ring Lardner or Paul Gallico, the guys who covered Ruth. Somebody should have told them that.
UncleMikeNJ 3 years ago
I remember when Roger came over to the Cardinals in 1967. His power stats were gone in that larger Busch Stadium, but he had a decent year and an outstanding World Series against Boston. Plus, I think he was relaxed for the first time in his career. Roger was a very decent person, and perhaps a bit too shy to deal with the hardcore press in New York. Mantle was a natural with the press.
McGlasshole 3 years ago
just watched this today one of the greatest movies ever
bostonkids6 3 years ago
Happy Birthday Roger Maris:)
checkoutmyprofile 3 years ago 3
not only didnt Roger Maris take helpful drugs, he also played with a 4 pack a day cigarette habit, much like his pal Mickey Mantle played perhaps a third or more of his games with a hangover, or still in the bag...compare that with what Bonds, McGuire, Palmeiro, Clemens and on and on.....not even close. Those punks have no business in any record book.
kenwood3865 3 years ago
check out my video of Rogers gravesite.. HE is the TRUE HR KING!
embalm 3 years ago
this is a really good movie
airsoftrules987 3 years ago
wat a coincidence it was the red sox
Mvb278 3 years ago
for those of u wondering this movie is titled 61*
tjtheman123456 3 years ago
Show the real thing you asshole
GrantRajdl 3 years ago
wat movie is dis?
Limited15 3 years ago
I just finally watched this movie tonight..it was really good.
dustin0004 3 years ago
roger is the greatest ever. there will never be another one.
josephNYY2 3 years ago
ditto josephNYY2.
xxjohnandersonxx 3 years ago
he was better than mantle, but they were both really good
CaffinatedMonkey 3 years ago
umm yeah, you're an idiot!
bodhitaichi 3 years ago
I just viewed the movie 61. I had no idea he had that kind of pressure on him. always in the shadow of mantle. he would have stayed in the shadow if mantle didn't go out. i still beleive he is the true home run king!!
yanksfan43 3 years ago
He's still the HR king!
rbake89 4 years ago
Roids or no roids. 61 homers is awesome and so was Roger. Congrads to Roger and RIP
Rusfi7 4 years ago
Let me bring this point to a close. I often hear that steroids weren't around in the '60's. I blame the press for that misconception. They never gave a history of steroid use in sports. As far as I've read, anabolic steroids AS THEY EXIST TODAY made their way into athletic competition in 1954. They entered the Olympics, college and pro football, bodybuilding, ect., but we're to believe that they leapfrogged past baseball 'til the '90's? C'mon.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Roger Maris was 6 ft. tall and weighed about 195 pounds. Pretty normal for a guy with a naturally athletic physique. A player today who stands 6 ft. tall weighs 220 - 230. Maris never suddenly bulked up 20 or 30 pounds over the course of a few seasons, as players today do. In fact, very few baseball players from that era even lifted weights. And of course, steroids are useless unless you hit the gym. Maris was not on steroids.
jstarks123 4 years ago
lonedove 1981, I'm sure you're an intelligent fellow, although I can't tell based on what you've written. Calm down, STOP CURSING because when you curse you tend to lose your listener, and just take another look at the facts .... objectively this time, and simply apply a little common sense, which I'm sure you have stored up in abundance. In fact, it's probably overflowing.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Think Nolan Ryan did it all on "guts and glory," pitching all those no-hitters and amasing all those strikeouts well into his forties? Keep dreaming. I bet you believe Roger Clemens' denials, too.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Whoever said I was pro-steroids? What I'm saying is that PED use is part of a longstanding culture of baseball and of sports in general, and that you're being incredibly naive if you believe that all of this got started in the 1990's. That's nonsense. You don't think Cal Ripken had help playing 2632 straight games? Think he did it all on bacon, eggs and grits in the morn? Even average people like you and me at least need coffee to start our days.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
And just how do you know that Gibson, Koufax and all the rest didn't take PED's. We all know, or should know, that amphetamines were widely used in baseball for generations. Jim Bouton discussed it in "Ball Four," John Milner accused Willie Mays of taking them, and Bonds even tested positive for them. Yet, no one batted an eye. Why? Because everyone already KNOWS that if you jail every major leaguer who takes amphetamines, midtown parking would be no problem.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
That's a perfectly logical question, and it applies just as logically to Yastrzemski. If either of those guys were Bonds, Sosa or any modern day "cheater" with those numbers, you'd instantly say he was on steroids. And what does the fact that Tom House wasn't a star player have to do with this? Most of the players who take steroids aren't stars, as the Mitchell Report that you find so believable indicates.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Now, get off of your subjective, hero-worshipping high horse for a moment and read back at what I've written. What I said was that reporters cite spikes in players' HR numbers as evidence of steroid use. Now, we have a player who connects widespread steroid use to the '60's, when a single-season HR record was set by someone who's numbers spiked just as dramatically as Bonds' and Sosa's. My question is why aren't these same reporters accusing Maris?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
The Nash, Zullo and Smith book actually does link Ruth to extract from sheep testes, a popular PED in his day. They say it made him sick, I say perhaps only that particular occasion. The Babe seemed to have an addictive and hard-charging countenance, so it's hard for me to believe that he stopped injecting himself with this PED because it made him sick on this occasion. I'm sure booze (hangovers) and sex (venereal diseases) made him sick, too, but that didn't him from indulging in those vices.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Check out an article entitled "Bonding with the Babe," by Dave Zirin, a sports journalist who contributes to the magazine, "The Nation." Also, download "The Baeball Hall of Shame's Book of Warped Records" by Bruce Nash, Allan Zullo and Bob Smith. That should at least get you started on acquiring a broader perspective on this issue. Also, look up Tom House and what he had to say on this subject and ask why these people are never heard from on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, ESPN, etc.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
If he had gotten busted (this was back in the '70's), do you think the team doc and the coach would have come forth and taken the heat? Heck no, I assure of that. That naive college athlete would have been on his own. Balding, by the way, is one of the known side effects of setroid use. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it still happens.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Also note that, for the veteran Yaz, 1966 had been one of his better seasons prior to his "breakout" year. He clearly was no star prior to that. Perhaps a slightly above-average player, but no star. Suddenly, though, he starts whacking the ball like Hank Aaron and no one questions that, particularly in light of Tom House's startling revelations?
See my point?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
I see that Carl Yastrzemski, in 1967, had 44HR, 121RBI and batted .326, winning the coveted Triple Crown. The year before, with 15 MORE at-bats, he had jsu 16HR, 80RBI with just a .278 avg. In fact, prior to '67, his numbers were never glowing. Look for yourself. Yet, he spikes by 28 homers in 1967. House says steroids were abundant in the '60's. ready to start questioning Yaz? The same priciple applies to him as it does to Bonds, Sosa and all the rest of the modern "cheaters."
bravenewhope 4 years ago
The explanantions offered by Ankiel and Paul Byrd were just as ridiculous as everyone claims Bonds' are. Yet, no one is vilifying them them the same way Bonds is getting roasted. The public seems totally uninterested, ditto the prosecutors. They just appear to be after one man.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
All I'm saying is think outside the box. Never just accept out-of-hand what mass media is offering. I mean, no matter how many times the press has been proven to be manipulative or just outright misleading, we still embrace what they have to say while dismissing our own independent thinking. I mean, for goodness' sake, you have the internet. There's no excuse for not doing your own research. Use it to start thinking outside the box.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Oh, and management would be implicated as well. It's simply impossible for all of this to have gone on without the knowledge and complicity of management -- at ALL levels.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
I'll tell you why. It's because if the truth comes out, their agenda is vastly compromised. They'd have to acknowledge that the Cobbs, Ruths, Gehrigs, Mantles and Maris' all did their little dirt as far as PED's are concerned because PED's have been around just that long. They ALL did it, and you're being totally naive to think otherwise.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
You mentioned something about the facts in an earlier post... do ypu know that for a FACT that Ruth, Cobb, Maris, etc... did anything to enhance their performance.
lonedove1981 4 years ago
I can't tell you spefically that Ruth, Maris, Cobb, etc. took steroids, but I can tell you what was popular in their day and, yes, they would be classifieed as performance enhancing drugs. My point is that PED's are very much a staple of sports. A track star friend of mine was being given pills back in college. Neither the coach nor the team doc ever told him what they were. He's been bald for many years now, a trait that doesn't even run in his family. Likely a side effect.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
And meanwhile, the Feds and the media have essentially targeted just one man in this so-called steroids scandal: Barry Bonds. If they've eaxamined baseball's long, long history and culture of PED'S, they sure aren't sharing their knowledge with the public. Why doesn't CNN, ABC, NBC, ESPN or any of the other new outlets do a hsitorical work-up of steroid use in baseball?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
The feds are going after Bonds for lying to a grand jury and obstuction of justice... not for breaking the homerun record.
lonedove1981 4 years ago
To say that the Feds are going after Bonds simply because he "lied" to the GJ is to ignore everything that has happened both before and since. We all KNEW that McGwire was hyped up on andro, and should have been just as suspicious that he was on 'roids, but he got a free pass. No such luck with Bonds. In fact, even now, I don't see the Feds knocking at Jay Gibbons' or Rick Ankiel's door to get them to snitch on their suppliers, do you?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
I really don't care... baseball is my third favorite sport...
lonedove1981 4 years ago
Performance enhancing drugs have been a staple of sports since the ancient Greeks. Yet, the press would have you believe that all of this got started in the '90's, and the poor public has just taken this ridiculous notion and run with it. We all know about the '60's Eastern Euro athletes, Arnold Schwarzenegger, pro football and track & field, yet we accept laughable belief that baseball somehow escaped steroid use during that same period. C'mon. That's ridiculous!
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Bonds spiked by 24 from '00 to 01, Sosa by 30 from '97 to '98, and Ruth by 23 from '19 to'20. In '61, Mantle would have enjoyed a similar spike but for missing the last weeks of the season with, get this, A BOIL ON HIS RUMP. If that were Bonds, we'd be calling it an infected needle wound. The point is, how do Maris, Ruth, Mantle and all the rest of the "legends" escape scrutiny if steroids were around when they played?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Reporters enjoy looking at spikes in home run numbers to make their case about steroid use. Well, Maris's home run spike from 1960 to 1961 rivaled those of Sosa and Bonds from their previous years before subsiding back down his usual output. Maris spiked from 39HR in 1960 to 61HR in 1961. People would use those numbers today to say that a player used steroids. But if steroids were being used back in the '60's, how come nobody's accusing Maris? He probably used them, too.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
As Roger Maris' nephew, I can tell you that he never took any PEDs, period. Now please stop trying to act like you know what you're talking about.
frodo2734 3 years ago
Tom House, former Braves reliever who caught Hank Aaron's 715th homer in the home bullpen (look him up), says steroid and HGH use in baseball was widespread as far back as the 1960's. I immediately thought, "A single-season homer run ecord was set in the 1960's, also." So I looked up Maris's numbers.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
If I can remember Tom House was on a baseball card with Johnny Bench (around 1968)as the Reds top rookies... So he couldn't say if Maris was on anything back then as he would stii been in jr/high school.
lonedove1981 4 years ago
Go back and read what I wrote. I never said that House evr accused Maris of being on "anything back then." What I asked was if a player is linking widespread steroid use in baseball all the way back to the '60's, a decade in which a single-season HR record was set, then how come no one is listening to him or questioning the record-setter, Roger Maris?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Why don't you go back and suck Bonds dick... all you do is to quote on third rate pitcher... Why is it Gibson, Koufax, Berra, F. Robinson, Santo, Lasorda, McCovey, Ford, E. and F. Howard... etc never said anything about such uses... Also if Maris was on anything don't you think the NY press would've said something... thay had their inside contacts... also the press hated Maris and if anything was wrong we would've found out... So you can take you pro steroid use and shove it up your ass
lonedove1981 4 years ago
I really don't know what it is with you guys and the foul language.
Look, you can believe whatever makes sense to you. If you'd rather believe the hearsay commentary of some strength coach that forms the basis of a report prepared by a man who sits on the Red Sox Board (hence, no Red Sox are named) that names 20 Yankees, with most of the remaining names being Met and Oriole players, then go right ahead. I'll take the word of a "third rate pitcher" over those sources any day.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Then I proceeded to answer some of those questions myself. Maris's homer spike was no less significant than Bonds and Sosa's. Steroids have been in amateur sports (Olympics) at least since the 1950's, and in the 1960's pro football players were threatened with fines if they didn't take steroids provided by the teams. If this were going on today, we'd have no problem connecting players to steroid use. Why should it be any different for Maris, Mantle and even Ruth?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
hey!!! bravenewhope... Fuck U asshole...
Gabrielrsd 4 years ago
What's with the name-calling, Gabrielsrd? Just give me some facts.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Gabrielsrd, Boy21o0, I can't hear you.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Maris was it. The rest are loud mouthed garbage.
KeithTheKing 4 years ago
wow. whats with the audio lag?
anyway, love roger. what a season
Pookgg 4 years ago
I still consider him the single season home run king!
SabinCash 4 years ago 2
great movie but why does this jerk pretend it's the real thing? it's as simple as adding "from the movie 61*" to the description.
crowj 4 years ago
it's remarkable that stupid new yorkers hated him for it
schmitmg 4 years ago
new york fans are spoiled. let them sit in the last place in their division for a few years just t o see howfaithful they are to their team
avalsonline 4 years ago
New yorker here. And we're not all stupid, but i do agree with you, that the way they treated him was pathetic. Roger was a great man!!!
burbonboy 4 years ago
such a good movie....
sasquatch435 4 years ago
61, great movie.
moosey62 4 years ago
that was a great movie it pisses me off that he did it on guts and glory and McGuire & Bonds did it on steroids
Boy21o0 4 years ago
How do you know Maris didn't take steroids?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
first of all doushebag steroids werent around in in 61 and he only hit 200 and sumthing homeruns in his whole career steroids would be more
Boy21o0 4 years ago
What's with the name calling? I simply asked you a question.
Performance enhancing drugs have been in baseball since the 1800's, starting with Hall of Fame pitcher Pud Galvin, the first documented case. Players back then injected sheep testosterone and took strychnine formtheir performance edge, and, yes, Babe Ruth allegedly did, too. This went on for generations, and this what mass media is NOT telling the public. They make you think PED's in baseball are recent.
bravenewhope 4 years ago
Where are you, Boy21o0? Am I talking to myself now?
bravenewhope 4 years ago
its the classic movie 61* retards
Teejay92 4 years ago
what is this fake garbage.
MrK623 4 years ago
WHY NOT THE REAL DEAL??WHATS UP ???
twistoffate777 5 years ago