Expert Insight Poker Tip: Pre-Flop Match-ups Part 1

[dmghoster]

that skill



[dmghoster]

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[z2ato]

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[SuperOldwiseman]

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[MrFrument]

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[XMV1321]

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[Watterpolo]

why is the pocket against KQ suited ahead but behind against j 10 suited behind?

[Amaru19]

@Watterpolo JTs makes more straights than KQs, or any other hand.

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[Desfrau4MATA]

"" How is TJ suited better than KQ suited against 77? Answer please"" because it is easier to make a strait with TJ than with KQ dumbass ... the same as 89 suited is better than AK suited vs 22

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[brogdon12345]

is says the pocket kings are a 78% to 23% over the suited connectors... 101% total...

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[beezleboe]

pre flop percentages don't mean shit. Anyone who has played poker long enough will tell you that what you're holding is the least important thing, lol. This percentage bullshit will get you in a lot of trouble, because so much of poker is luck. I know the percentage and odds people won't like that statement but it's true. You have to start playing the board and not percentages because odds often don't add up. I just love watching the wsop on tv and seeing the pre flop percentages....

[PBRMafia]

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[fix520]

i get AA and lose to any hand....true story.

[Jarnis86]

As Ac vs. Ah 7s = 93% - 7%....

[102regan]

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[Vengeance31]

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[Muziq5678]

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[buddah463]

so if the flop is 2,3,4 and you have an A,5 is the straight? Basically im asking is the Ace a high or low card in poker??

[TheSlicka2]

@buddah463 in no limit holdem the ace can be used as a high or a low card

10 jack queen king ace is a straight

ace 2345 is also a straight

[toyotas2006]

J 10 is my favorite hand to play

That's MY hand

[mikelinjo]

27 vs AA is almost the same possibility(percentage) like KK vs AA, so... :)

[ErsinYildiz]

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[bogiwow]

are these math works on poker??

[rastaboy84]

yes, absolutely yes.

[retsnom92]

How do i know what my opponent is holding, also what are the total hands that do good on preflop?

[HalfEatenDimSim]

If you can't roughly fathom what cards an opponent is holding, perhaps scrabble is more suited for you.

[bruceamey]

I think KK vs K2o is slightly more skewed..

obviously not trying to start an argument though, both situations are pretty one sided.

[daveygravey123456]

aces vs 55 pre flop is more than 5 to one ahead this guy doesnt know shit

[nighttrain316]

no..that is pretty much exactly right...by the time the river comes it will be 95 to 5 percent...but preflop that is the right percentage!

[daveygravey123456]

my god you carnt count can you lmfao you fish donk whats 18% x5 not even 100% so it is at leats 5 to one you are thick as fuk

[tyreseburn]

What Phil Gordon says is exactly right. He says with Aces you're a 4.5 to 1 favorite which means you'll win with aces 4.5 times out of 5.5 times which turns into 81.81% or 82% to win... It can't be more than 5 to 1 since that turns into 83.3% and its definitely less than 83% not more. Please explain yourself.

[BriDirt]

4.5 to 1 = 9 to 2

you take 11 (9 + 2)

divide 100% by 11 (9.0909%)

multiply the AA side which is the 9 by 9.0909% (which is about 82%)

Multiply the 55 side which is 2 by 9.0909% (which is about 18%)

it works the same way if you use the 4.5 to 1 odds to its just easier to me if you use 9 to 2. It's just simple mathematics by changing fractions into percentages man.

[padgetsf]

NO UR FUCKIN STUPID 5:1 means there are a total of 6 units, 100/6 is 16.66666. this means that 5:1 is 83.333333/16.66666 4:1 would be 80/20, 3:1 is 75/25, 2/1 is 66.6666/33.3333, 1/1 is 50/50, 3/2 is 60/40 4/3 is...you get my fuckin point rtard.

[BriDirt]

its 4 1/2 to 1 which would be the same as 9 to 2 if that looks better for you.  its still 82% to win and no matter how you look at it is is a huge favorite.

[masterrutger]

KK vs 78s 78%/23% since when there is something like 101%

[daveygravey123456]

coz of spilt pot possibilites you thick cunt

[JaeronGaidin]

" How is TJ suited better than KQ suited against 77? Answer please"

KQ and TJ each have 6 outs to make a pair (3K 3Q 3T and 3J).

Also, they both have she same chances to make a flush.

JT has more chances to make a straight than KQ. KQ can make AKQJT / KQJT9 / QJT98.

JT can make AKQJT / KQJT9 / QJT98 / JT987 / T9876. So, JT has 2 more possibilites to make a straight than KQ.

[paasyman]

because if a seven comes on the board, you can use it to make a straight with TJ. (7-8-9-10-J

[Mk927]

Yeah, TJ are THE best hole cards for making straights. They can make more straights than some other connectors, but what separates it from other connectors in its range is that it can make more nut straights than any other connector.

[qcenaman]

@JaeronGaidin JT can make much more straights then KQ.. above K there is only A, but JT has many more cards above and below... so more kinds of straights possible..

[ryanbabbage]

@JaeronGaidin plus ur only drawing to the nuts str8 wiv j10

[MrRioMario]

@JaeronGaidin because any half the possiblilty of you getting a straigh with the straight would include TJ giving TJ a higher straight, where as any straight with 7 wouldnt connect with KQ

[Buyakaasha]

@JaeronGaidin because if the KQ pairs up, it is better than if TJ make a pair. yes, there is the same odds of hitting a pair, but the odds of a pair of J's or T's being better than a pair of K's or Q's is zero. got it noob?

[HuiMaPanenEndaleNime]

KK vs 78 suited, percentages are 78% against 23% . In total it makes 101% :D

[MrDAVE420247]

probly round up both fraction of percent

[fd9w4dncm]

How is TJ suited better than KQ suited against 77? Answer please

[Ensureqwerty]

KQ can only use 8,9,10,J,Q,K,A. to make a straight where TJ can use 6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K,A

[fd9w4dncm]

Oh... yeah, thanks. :)

[rowdy22chick]

the 6 will never help TJ, ultimately you will be playing to at least the J. same is true for the 8 with KQ. those cards would only help when holding a T nk or Q nk.

[hendrik04]

it doenst matter if you beat a pair of 7s with a pair of jacks or with a pair of kings, an its a better chand´ce to make a str8. i bet you got at least 10 answers to this

[Vyraji]

it has more possibility to make a straight

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[danp49]

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[heimlichkeit]

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[danp49]

kk ty

[SheltonNeedsToSkate]

how it king queen suited worse than jack ten suited? against poket sevens

[casusbelli15]

KQ has less ways to make a straight than 10 J

[slippysim]

Haha! 0:38! KK v 7 8 suited. 78% v 23% = 101%.

Do your maths Phil!

[BboyLu89]

2,7 vs AA absulutly Fold before the flop..

its stupid play again^^

[bleepingblah]

it really is a moot point. The only way you would be able to know the percentages of the hand pre-flop is if you went all-in and had the other person in with you without the flop being seen by two or more people who have bigger stacks. So even if you do know the odds, at this point it doesn't matter, its where the cards fall.

[sarm2005]

Would the best odds be something like AA vs. A2unsuited?

[Hitman27100]

No, best odds would be AA vs 2,7 unsuited

[chaunceyb3]

Both of you are wrong. AA has the best odds against A9 offsuit.

[bookieko]

hmm shdnt it be A6o?

[paulio2293]

like 93-7 in favour of AA. A2 is completley dominated, only hope is to hit 2 2's on the board, or 345 or a flush

[SlutSmasher66]

technically it is KK vs K2 with the suit of the 2 being covered

[bsman40]

thanks

[Virus278]

What if you have a pocket pair and the opponent has smaller non-suited connectors?

[Virus278]

Then your odds of winning are 81%

[Wicked33]

ehhh....actually no....K Q suited can only go up to ace in a straight, J 10 can either go 7,8,9,10,J up to 10,J,Q,K,A...so you have 4 possible straght draws,K Q only has 2 possible straight draws....those other 2 straight draws make the extra 2%...so go learn poker b4 you come back and try get it wrong again....

[RoyalAlba1]

@Wicked33 IDIOT WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??? if you have K Q suited you can up to a ace in a straight but also down if the flops comes J 10 9 then you also have a straight

[R0nni3]

@RoyalAlba1 You're the idiot. Read his post AGAIN. K Q will NEVER be on the bottom end of a str8 ( example Q K A x x ), but 10 J will (example 10 J Q K A ). Therefore, wow, one straight more from 10 J in this one example. The second one is J Q K A x. In this one K Q on a A J x flop is NOT open-ended. It has to catch a 10 and a ten only, as there's no higher card than the ace, obviously. On the other hand, 10 J on a 9 Q x flop would BE open ended. I hope i made it clearer to you... sheesh ......

[testy765]

ROFL. moron.

[mclinick123]

this happened to me last night, i raised 3 times the blind in early poision with 3 players with pocket queens player 2 called who has a rep as a somewhat tight player, player 3 folded, the flop comes with 2 low cards and a ten all suited so i push all in and he calls and turns over the the nut flush ace with 5 or six (can't remember) and knocks me out! so what are the odds of ace rag suited knocking out pocket queens? Thats what i want to know. did he make a bad call?

[M0hj]

It depends, how large was your stack?

How large was his?

Sounds like a bit of a fishcall to me (if you know what that is).

Lots of newbies take A5/A6/A7 suited WAY too serious, they think it's a godly hand.

Against a raise of 3 times the pot (depending of course on if the raise was $60 out of a $20 bet, or $600 out of $200)

I would call the first, but not the second..

It all depends on the situation, but it does sound like a bad call from what info you tell me.

Odds: QQ vs. A5s = ~67% vs. ~32%

[billsparky16]

OK, first off. A preflop raise of 3x the BB is a pretty standard play, something I would call with A5 suited at almost any position at the table. At that point, the A5 becomes a speculative hand, where he's looking for a straight, flush (4 card or made), set, or two pair.

The mistake, if any, was to push on the flop. That seems like too strong a play for a suited board.

[skrone420]

uh wtf? 77vkqd = 51% 77vtjd = 49%????

[patrikb11]

because the jtd has more possible straight combinations than the kqd

in heads up, an overcard is simply an overcard. the actual 'distance' between the overcard and the card it dominates is of no importance

[M0hj]

At least you can put some knowledge into the head of that dumb skrone420.

If you don't know that 10Jsuited is better than QKsuited you shouldn't be playing hold 'em.

Same goes for pair vs. any overcards..

Learn the odds..

[taurenrogue]

mmmm, too bad you can't see their cards eh?

[latiFooh]

ahhaahha goober

[goooober]

How do you know your opponents cards?

[jpzzzz]

Someone preflop all in and you're the only one to call.

[ita675]

78+23=101!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yes2sexY]

well spotted!

[luffy3]

you are the expert!

[jaywill009]

lol nice catch lmao

[willemv89]

YEAH RIGHT, LIKE AA GETS ALL-IN AGAINST 27os!

you wish

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[jetmaker1]

You doofus...this clip's purpose is to give you an idea about preflop percentages but it appears that's lost on you.

[mmuuuuhh]

2,7o is NOT the worst hand in HEADSUP! it's 2,3o!!! if not headsup than 2,7o is indeed the worst hand...

[tnguyen603]

what r the odds for pre-flop of  KK vs K2 ??

[Adam27X]

you're dominating big time there with the kings...as they're about 93.3% to win since you're opponent will need to hit two deuces or better.

[bloodfoxtrue]

it depends if the latter is suited, but according to pokerstove, its about 94% to 6%

[DrDre20]

kkolko,, yes i see wht you mean on 0:33sec. I guess you are correct it could easily be rounded :)

[kkolko]

78+23=101? Rounded I suppose?

[broncoramfan]

y is 27os the worst hand

[GMann43]

becaues it is the lowest card combo that has no straight or flush draws

[microitup]

27o is the worst hand in perspective to pocket aces.. 27o is actually a better hand than 26o, 25o, 24o, and 23o

[Adamsaccount]

but with all those you can hit a straight and not with 7/2, thats why its the worst hand in hold'em

[BigNebraskaFan]

23 can still make a straight where as 2os can't...so no 23 is not the worst hand in headsup.

[DanielFannar]

In headsup you are more likely to win with a pair of 7's and less likely to need a straight to win. That's why 23o is the worst hand in heads up poker.

[torontobluered]

...

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