Not only is this the first time I've seen anyone on youtube play anything that sounds remotely like santana, it sounds awesome! You should do a lesson video. I've watched a few, but they're all incredibly sub-par. They mostly sound like someone doing pentatonic blues riffing over a santana styled backing track.
Excellent attack - your feel for this aggressive edge from Santana 'Lotus' period is spot on. If the fretboard doesn't sound like its on fire then you ain't got it, but your take is absolutely burning. Love the sustain at 2.30. Reckon you should sort out a full-on lotus backing track and I'd love to hear/see the whole thing played live. Your dedication and sincerity to this song and style of playing shines out from the video. Bravo.
How do you describe this tone? There's a ton of distortion and overdrive setting you can get out of your gear! But this tone is something special! I really don't consider it distortion per se because it breaks up ever so slightly! It's almost like a clean jazz guitar w/ sustain added and squirrelly tubes! LOL! I coined this the Carlos Santana "Garden of Delight" tone!
@dalung in this day and age there are many shitty guitarists but you and only you dalung can bring the motherfucking ruckus. you are a true swordsman i applaud your brave work.
If your talking modern Santana tone then you're correct! But he is close to the 70's Santana tone. Go listen to Samba Pa Ti or Incident at Neshabur from the Lotus era and you'll see what I mean. Then come back let me know if you agree.
Personally I don't like Santana's modern tone. I prefer 70's Santana tone over that tone he gets using PRS and Dumbles amps and such.
A big part of santanas tone is the equalization and cracking those tube amps. I was able to get a pretty nice santana tone with P-90's, a crancked twin reverb,a double muff fuzz/overdrive (its friggin awesome) but mainly I crancked the mids on the equalizer the rainbow type setting. Best regards.
Yeah you're right it should to be cranked. Actually this above is not really the best sound, it's not cranked actually, but it's the best I can get in a home setting where it can't be too loud.
Yeah p90s are great. Both my SG's have them. What do you have the p90s on? SG? LP?
But also the approach and touch is important too. Especially in this Lotus-Type Santana voice. The current Carlos voice is much easier to emulate and a great deal simpler than the 1973 version-voice.
I agree touch is more of a factor to me than the EQ settings if we're talking 70's Santana tone. The key is that there are strategic places in the phrasings where Carlos used to love to do hammer ons and pull offs to embellish his lines. That, I think is a major key. I can do a great 70's Carlos on my Les Paul unplugged believe it or not! That's why I say phrasing is were it's at. Also dynamics! He never used to play everything loud like he does today but rather Crescendo and decrescendo!
I think in the 70's he wasn't afraid of the tone knob! But today Carlos' tone sounds like he's rolled off all the friggin treble. To me his modern tone sounds like the amp is being smothered under a mountain of blankets! No treble at all, which causes the loss of some of the harmonics that used to sound so heavenly coming from an Les Paul!
I couldn't keep my mount closed throughout the entire video. You blew me away!! I'm very very impressed with your style. Great job. How can I get a sound like that? Please tell, Please please... I'm very serious. Thank you!!!!!
Wow thanks, I just thought it was a rough single take. Well I guess to sound like that you have to play like that. I mean have you any videos so I can get an idea of what you sound like? I mean the gear I use is specific to this tone, but, it makes no difference if you don't use the correct touch/voicing.
AHH well I had a big muff once and didn't really like it. May have not been the right model to have though, I had the russian on I think. But I guess you'll have to try and get the gain out of the muff anyway. Fender Bassman is nice, (Jimi used one on Voodoo Child Slight Return actually!) should sound nice if you be careful how you set the muff..?
Well it's hard to quantify gain, I had quite a bit of gain on the boogie, and I presume a boogie is higher gain than a bassman, so you'd need quite a bit on there i'd think?? Loudness well it wasn't THAT loud, it was at maybe 2 on the boogie. Which for me is still not loud as i'd like to play at! I'd rather be on 6-10 range. But again on such an amp that's still quite loud I guess. What's your guit sorry? And hums or singles?
Wow thanks. Well, i'm pretty sure any amp should have that same capability as long as theres enough gain and volume and you stand in the right spot. What's your amp anyway?
I can't believe somebody gave you 1 star,it was probably 1 of those jealous bastards,youtube is full of them,great job man you deserve more than 5 stars for burning all those Carlos licks,thnx for sharing!
I rated with 5 stars and I don't know why is showing 3 stars,anyways I gotta find the time to check the rest of your vids. slowly, looks like you got a lot of cool ones there!
Thanks, I think it averages out the 1 that someone else gave and the 5 that you gave, so the overall is 3 in the middle of the two. Oh thanks a lot, yeah I should be having more soon, some demonstrating these licks too and how to do them (due to request)....
The man deserves to eat. And if his recent stuff brings him to attention of a new generation...well he deserves that too. By the way, how do you like your Mark IV? I'm trying to decide on an amp. I'm leaning towards either the Mark IV or the Rectoverb. I'm not a shredder, but there's a certain tonal quality the Treadplates have that I like a lot also.
Yeah true, but that's enough of that now, and he's rich enough, and well it only worked the first time, the "new" fans which are regular people not the same kind of fans as the legendary stuff, are not loyal. So that collaboration stuff didn't seem to work as well the second and third time. I mean all of it's okay stuff, i'm not saying it's bad. It's fine. But compared to the Lotus days it's not anything.
About the Boogie, I have the Mark I, I don't know about the Mark IV, but the Mark I is pretty great. It does more or less anything I want. I have a Marshall JCM800 to cover anything else, and a Fender Twin for that little bit extra. But the Boogie is probably best overall to be honst. The Mark IV though I only tried one once, for about 10 mins. And it's too long ago to even remember what it was like. And i'd only started playing then so I can't say regarding that unfortunately.
Hah thanks. And that's hilarious by the way. It's a shame Carlos doesn't play that kinda stuff anymore though hah. I guess I should have been around in 1973 to double. It's okay though i'm doing my own thing most of the time.
who play the piano in the song incident at neshabur from abraxas gregg rolie or albert gianquinto
stevegerard88 2 weeks ago
that is class!!
Kapernakus07 6 months ago
@Kapernakus07 Haha thanks but it's old now, I don't play this shittily any more!
dalung 6 months ago
73 carlos tone is hard to come by, great job, big spirit bro
TheBolillo310 7 months ago
Nice try but not even close....fuck offf
SpagBoll4Ever 1 year ago
@SpagBoll4Ever I invite you to do the same and then we will talk...Upload a video with this kind of great job or better if you close your mouth
hackerface 1 year ago
What can I say, I like it a lot.
paperjam4u 1 year ago
Not only is this the first time I've seen anyone on youtube play anything that sounds remotely like santana, it sounds awesome! You should do a lesson video. I've watched a few, but they're all incredibly sub-par. They mostly sound like someone doing pentatonic blues riffing over a santana styled backing track.
thegreatfish 1 year ago
Wow, - I'm impressed, you even did the "My Fav Things" song quote. are there any other themes from other songs?
I LOVE Lotus....well like 3 songs from it and they blow me away.
stevieVantanna 1 year ago
What pickups are on that nice Les Paul?
Desu2009 1 year ago
Great job ! Outstanding !
Really "Santana-like" playing !
townshend1969 1 year ago
good job, man.
to add flavor, try varying your volume and tone depending on the phrase you're playing. carlos does this constantly.. its a big part of his tone.
Teelux 1 year ago
this is some great work.
UDO5000 2 years ago
Excellent attack - your feel for this aggressive edge from Santana 'Lotus' period is spot on. If the fretboard doesn't sound like its on fire then you ain't got it, but your take is absolutely burning. Love the sustain at 2.30. Reckon you should sort out a full-on lotus backing track and I'd love to hear/see the whole thing played live. Your dedication and sincerity to this song and style of playing shines out from the video. Bravo.
BluesideUK 2 years ago
Hey thanks a lot. Well i'd love to but a full Lotus backing, that's hard to do..!! I don't have anyone to play the other instruments.
dalung 2 years ago
How do you describe this tone? There's a ton of distortion and overdrive setting you can get out of your gear! But this tone is something special! I really don't consider it distortion per se because it breaks up ever so slightly! It's almost like a clean jazz guitar w/ sustain added and squirrelly tubes! LOL! I coined this the Carlos Santana "Garden of Delight" tone!
osensei2987 2 years ago
@dalung in this day and age there are many shitty guitarists but you and only you dalung can bring the motherfucking ruckus. you are a true swordsman i applaud your brave work.
kevin33558 1 year ago
i am sorry , but you sir look and sound nothing like carlos santana you need to practice and learn some phrasing , sorry just my opinion
figgyfucfaced 2 years ago
If your talking modern Santana tone then you're correct! But he is close to the 70's Santana tone. Go listen to Samba Pa Ti or Incident at Neshabur from the Lotus era and you'll see what I mean. Then come back let me know if you agree.
Personally I don't like Santana's modern tone. I prefer 70's Santana tone over that tone he gets using PRS and Dumbles amps and such.
osensei2987 2 years ago 2
Osensei knows!
dalung 2 years ago
Dude this is the second friggin time someone has said you don't look like Santana! WTF am I missing? ROFLMAO!!!!
osensei2987 2 years ago
I guess it's time for us to accept that most human beings don't make sense and are not capable of making logical and reasonable judgements.
dalung 2 years ago
Hi Dalung,
I am very impresses with the startling similarity of your tone to the Carlos tone I love the most, but also enjoy some of the fatter tones of recent.
Still, the playing and sound is all there.
Shalom
Jeff Makor
More people should know about you, brother.
Thanks and shalom
J
SHEMAMAN 2 years ago
Hey thanks a lot for that. If only I can get some work then hah.
dalung 2 years ago
3:18 You nailed it!
Great Playing and tone.
Carlos's tone through his Les Paul and the early
Mesa Boogie was/is my favorite combo. You've captured well on this video.
I wasn't happy when he abandoned the Les Paul for the L6-s and especially when he went to the Yamaha.
Thank you for sharing your talent.
jimdep1 3 years ago
Hey thanks dude.
Well I liked all the tones in different ways.
But the biggest shame was going for the PRS.
I mean it's still great. But all the tones of the various Gibsons and Yamaha's were more legendary i'd say.
dalung 3 years ago
A big part of santanas tone is the equalization and cracking those tube amps. I was able to get a pretty nice santana tone with P-90's, a crancked twin reverb,a double muff fuzz/overdrive (its friggin awesome) but mainly I crancked the mids on the equalizer the rainbow type setting. Best regards.
LuisWahWah 3 years ago
Yeah you're right it should to be cranked. Actually this above is not really the best sound, it's not cranked actually, but it's the best I can get in a home setting where it can't be too loud.
Yeah p90s are great. Both my SG's have them. What do you have the p90s on? SG? LP?
dalung 3 years ago
But also the approach and touch is important too. Especially in this Lotus-Type Santana voice. The current Carlos voice is much easier to emulate and a great deal simpler than the 1973 version-voice.
dalung 3 years ago
I agree touch is more of a factor to me than the EQ settings if we're talking 70's Santana tone. The key is that there are strategic places in the phrasings where Carlos used to love to do hammer ons and pull offs to embellish his lines. That, I think is a major key. I can do a great 70's Carlos on my Les Paul unplugged believe it or not! That's why I say phrasing is were it's at. Also dynamics! He never used to play everything loud like he does today but rather Crescendo and decrescendo!
osensei2987 2 years ago
Yes this makes sense to me!
dalung 2 years ago
I think in the 70's he wasn't afraid of the tone knob! But today Carlos' tone sounds like he's rolled off all the friggin treble. To me his modern tone sounds like the amp is being smothered under a mountain of blankets! No treble at all, which causes the loss of some of the harmonics that used to sound so heavenly coming from an Les Paul!
osensei2987 2 years ago 2
And yeah, that's true also hahah.
dalung 2 years ago
great sound! mail me your effects in combination.
Regards,
Peter.
pietroanania 3 years ago
Thanks I did.
dalung 3 years ago
Absolutly amaizing!!!!! 5 stars all the way!
I couldn't keep my mount closed throughout the entire video. You blew me away!! I'm very very impressed with your style. Great job. How can I get a sound like that? Please tell, Please please... I'm very serious. Thank you!!!!!
4age20vbt 3 years ago
Wow thanks, I just thought it was a rough single take. Well I guess to sound like that you have to play like that. I mean have you any videos so I can get an idea of what you sound like? I mean the gear I use is specific to this tone, but, it makes no difference if you don't use the correct touch/voicing.
dalung 3 years ago
Do you use a 100 or 60W Mark I? I've got an old 60 watt head myself. No reverb tough.
Renhjarta 3 years ago
It's 100w reissue but switchable down to 60. With reverb.
dalung 3 years ago
great tone!! the playing was pretty wankery at some parts, but overall it was pretty good. You got that santana thing down.
buttsechs91 3 years ago
Thanks. Hah oh yeah I presume ur referring to the up and down stuff. It's just a rip off of what Carlos was doing on Lotus hah.
dalung 3 years ago
the bassman doesn't have gain, i use a big muff. i have an early 80s strat with single coils.
natedansmith 3 years ago
AHH well I had a big muff once and didn't really like it. May have not been the right model to have though, I had the russian on I think. But I guess you'll have to try and get the gain out of the muff anyway. Fender Bassman is nice, (Jimi used one on Voodoo Child Slight Return actually!) should sound nice if you be careful how you set the muff..?
dalung 3 years ago
I have a '66 Fender Bassman going thru an Avatar cab with two Celestions. How loud/how much gain are we talking about?
natedansmith 3 years ago
Well it's hard to quantify gain, I had quite a bit of gain on the boogie, and I presume a boogie is higher gain than a bassman, so you'd need quite a bit on there i'd think?? Loudness well it wasn't THAT loud, it was at maybe 2 on the boogie. Which for me is still not loud as i'd like to play at! I'd rather be on 6-10 range. But again on such an amp that's still quite loud I guess. What's your guit sorry? And hums or singles?
dalung 3 years ago
Wow thanks. Well, i'm pretty sure any amp should have that same capability as long as theres enough gain and volume and you stand in the right spot. What's your amp anyway?
dalung 3 years ago
Wow man, you really sound like santana. Great sound. I give you five stars!
Btw. Can you give me the settings you use on your Mesa amp plz?
Thx very much :)
Prozac86 3 years ago
Thanks very much! I'll send you a message with details! Let me know if it's useful.
dalung 3 years ago
I can't believe somebody gave you 1 star,it was probably 1 of those jealous bastards,youtube is full of them,great job man you deserve more than 5 stars for burning all those Carlos licks,thnx for sharing!
AXEMAN313 3 years ago
Oh yeah hah, I thought I deserved atleast 2 hahah. Well thank you kindly sir it's nice to hear it!!
dalung 3 years ago
I rated with 5 stars and I don't know why is showing 3 stars,anyways I gotta find the time to check the rest of your vids. slowly, looks like you got a lot of cool ones there!
AXEMAN313 3 years ago
Thanks, I think it averages out the 1 that someone else gave and the 5 that you gave, so the overall is 3 in the middle of the two. Oh thanks a lot, yeah I should be having more soon, some demonstrating these licks too and how to do them (due to request)....
dalung 3 years ago
Cool man!
AXEMAN313 3 years ago
Cool man!
AXEMAN313 3 years ago
The man deserves to eat. And if his recent stuff brings him to attention of a new generation...well he deserves that too. By the way, how do you like your Mark IV? I'm trying to decide on an amp. I'm leaning towards either the Mark IV or the Rectoverb. I'm not a shredder, but there's a certain tonal quality the Treadplates have that I like a lot also.
dhb162 3 years ago
Yeah true, but that's enough of that now, and he's rich enough, and well it only worked the first time, the "new" fans which are regular people not the same kind of fans as the legendary stuff, are not loyal. So that collaboration stuff didn't seem to work as well the second and third time. I mean all of it's okay stuff, i'm not saying it's bad. It's fine. But compared to the Lotus days it's not anything.
dalung 3 years ago
About the Boogie, I have the Mark I, I don't know about the Mark IV, but the Mark I is pretty great. It does more or less anything I want. I have a Marshall JCM800 to cover anything else, and a Fender Twin for that little bit extra. But the Boogie is probably best overall to be honst. The Mark IV though I only tried one once, for about 10 mins. And it's too long ago to even remember what it was like. And i'd only started playing then so I can't say regarding that unfortunately.
dalung 3 years ago
Great tone...outstanding playing. Could be Carlos' stunt double.
dhb162 3 years ago
Hah thanks. And that's hilarious by the way. It's a shame Carlos doesn't play that kinda stuff anymore though hah. I guess I should have been around in 1973 to double. It's okay though i'm doing my own thing most of the time.
dalung 3 years ago