Anyone who benefits from laws forced upon others or who themselves openly advocates outlawing marijuana or abortion or the right to euthanasia for others has ZERO right to complain about those of us who advocating putting YOU into prison for eating meat (look at ANY video on factory farming) or reproducing yourself.
Only vegans should be allowed to reproduce, and then, only after the world is made perfect first.
@mphello What. I. What. You just said that we should forcibly ban anyone who is not a vegan from breeding, and you're accusing me of wanting people to rape other people. What the hell is wrong with you.
@mphello ...Because I said it's stupid to say we should ban anyone who isn't vegan from fucking that means I don't want laws against any behavior? You, get the fuck off my planet right now.
Tough shit. You get the fuck off MY planet. I don't coddle rightwing conservative politically correct subhuman trash. I state my views openly and proudly. Eating meat is 100x worse than molesting children, which is pretty bad. Hence, anti-vegetarians should be treated as such.
@mphello I'm... Just going to end the conversation now out of embarrassment that people like you exist. And go get a bite to eat. Maybe a cheeseburger at a multinational burger chain.
@DTanza BULLSHIT. I'm the greatest thing in your life - EVER. Otherwise, you wouldn't have started this conversation that wastes my time. You WILL continue this conversation forever, because that is what your kind DOES.
You are an embarrassment to socialists everywhere, as you obviously (being anti-vegetarian) do not care about the consequences of your actions and are mentally unable to compute the magnitude of them.
Our problem is the growingly elaborate techniques of criminals. A century ago this started with the socialism and fascism scams, and has since morphed into the governmental poverty industry, environmentalism, and seditionist movements that seek to reimpose authoritarian governance in the name of "social justice" (such as in Venezuela).
Unless we can find a way to stop such people, their rapacious greed and violence will undo centuries of progress, and bring forth a new Dark Age for humanity.
@GeneralBlackNorway If Norway has a socialist government, then they're filled with "greed and shit" too. Socialists are criminals, and the unionized ones are the greediest of them all.
@GeneralBlackNorway Yup. Thieves, pirates and worse. They killed over 100 million people in the last century alone. Their well documented record of atrocities is an outrage against humanity.
But why do you need to ask? Surely this is obvious to you.
@DrCruel are you talking about the Nazis and commies? Surly you would know that you cant say that every socialist is a criminal just because there have been criminal socialists before. I would not say USA is free from criminals them selves. Norway have much less criminals than USA (compared too population). And btw, have you seen the Zeitgeist movie?
@GeneralBlackNorway The ideology of socialism is criminal at its core, because it purports to lay claim to all the efforts of anyone that does anything that someone else might value. By virtue of being productive and useful, the socialist claims that such a person owes their efforts to the collective - which invariably is represented by socialists. Successful socialists live like aristocrats from the efforts of their slaves.
I consider Nazism to be a relatively "honest" form of socialism.
@DrCruel "I consider Nazism to be a relatively "honest" form of socialism."
Then you should know that in Nazi Germany the people were not "slaves" as you call them. Germany went from a total disaster to the worlds greatest military power in the matter of years. Before the war Germany flourished making the lives of its people much easier compared to after WW1. Successful capitalist are private and may own a large company. They usually have more to say than regular people in politics.
@DrCruel And there are successful people in Norway. Rich people. So in Norway it's not PURE socialism. However some Norwegians call us the last communistic state. These rich people usually move away to get away from taxes. They do not wish to contribute to the system that made them so successful. These people are nothing more than criminals taking the advantage of our country. They do not even give anything back. It does not matter that the people is poor as long as these guys live in big villas
@GeneralBlackNorway People are not "criminals" for not wanting to contribute to the wealth of aristocratic overlords. If you want to call those aristocrats "socialists", that's your problem.
Socialists cannot ultimately win. The people they rob will either fight back or run off. If they are jailed, the wealth that the socialists depend on stealing stops. The best they can hope for is a society like that in the PRC, where they can rent their slave labor out to corporations.
@DrCruel this is assuming that the government really steals from the people and do not do their job? Just like the US government. USA is going to shit in a down going curve. In Norway there are few poor people or close too none that are poor. however we have a problem with the immigrant policy. The bluest party of them all wants too throw them out and comes with Nazi like statements. Socialism is really all about that everybody is equal. Everybody should live good rather than a few live best.
@GeneralBlackNorway Socialism is about taking from people who work, to give to people who don't. That's what socialism is here in the US. It's very big amongst the government unions.
If Norway is doing well, maybe it's because it isn't socialist. I can hardly see how they could do well under socialism. If socialists take over, the business people are either robbed out of existance or move elsewhere to make their products. Socialism is an ignorant, criminal system to live under.
@DrCruel with capitalism those who work hardest are those who are poor, and those who are rich are those who don't work hard. And those who become violent criminals are those who have grown up with a lot of shit and not as one of the rich. In more socialistic country's people are more equal and therefore there are less chance of becoming a violent criminal.
@GeneralBlackNorway Welfare recipients in the slums of Gary Indiana and Detroit Michigan don't work particularly hard - especially as the businesses there are driven out of business, one by one. Unionized government employees work even less ahrd, and demand raises and better benefits for their non-work. Most of their real effort is spent on preventing competition from forming.
Are you telling me there was no crime in Eastern Europe under Bolshevism? Or in Cuba? Or in Vietnam?
Over population is not the main problem. The problem is that way too many humans are using way too much natural resources ( water, oil, and so on.....) too quickly.
@darpa322 is CO2 and methane climate gases? YES! Do we put more of them out in the atmosphere? YES! Would that cause global warming? YES! Predators eat smaller animals. If we increase the number of predators more smaller animals will be eaten. It's as simple as that.
9 of last 10 years were the HOTTEST on record. 2009 = 2nd HOTTEST on record & solar irradiance is at 35 year low Search: Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: Graphs See: Ranking (Top 10 Warmest Years) The latest on YouTube: It's so Cold, there can't be Global Warming /watch?v=sAvqabAPIr4&feature=sub 50% of arctic sea ice & mountain glaciers have disappeared in just 30 years. Plants, animals & insects are all migrating north. Search: Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth
This is a case of, Do as I say, not as I do. Al, and the other elitist in this film, will continue to live in their four mansions and fly on private jets and run up electric bills 20X of the rest of us. They have no intension of stopping their life styles to save the planet. Of course these people that want to kill off billions of humans will not include themselves on that list. The rest of us, the great unwashed, to the elitists, will have to live in caves or live like the Unibomber.
oh they are always going on about our horrible end, how we are all gonna die in fear, if it is not this its a virus a swine flu a terror attack a nuclear holocust!
Dumbass, if you think the human race is invincible you have a lot of growing up to do. We are no more special than all the rest of the animals on this planet.
Yes we are more special than all the rest of the animals on the planet. We are the ONLY ONES who come close to be able to save ALL THE ANIMALS on the planet from asteroid catastrophe, climate change caused by natural events or other natural events.
We are the only ones able to spread Earth´s genetic stock across the galaxy. Its our duty. Even a seahorse is closer to us than any alien species in the universe. Not by appearance, by genetic code.
You think we can come close to stopping an asteroid catastrophe? Climate Change? We may be the only hope to stop these events, but we can't even stop an oil spill. You really think we can stop global warming? A majority of people don't even know what global warming IS, let alone "believe" in it. Your optimism is cute, but sadly, naive. At least you are aware of our distinctive biology, I do sense intelligence.
We are not yet capable of doing those things. But we are on the path. We advanced so much in the last 100 years. Just think how much more we will be able to do in 100 from now.
we CAN stop manmade Global Warming. If we want. Of course, the biggest problem in this is political. Climate models are still evoluting too, so people dont completely trust them. In the future we will probably even be able to terraform other planets.
@rogerpenna We don't even know how much man is contributing to global warming. We don't know anything, but we're running around in circles, just so no one can accuse us of doing nothing. The only thing that matters in the end, is overpopulation. We got to choose. We can't grow on forever AND being friendly to the environment at the same time.
@Skoda130 It's rather the overconsumtion that is the problem. The overpopulation can be solved by creating public welfare --> elderly care, education, jobs, poverty reduction etc.
@vansterpartisten But what exactly is the critical point? When are you exactly "overconsuming"? And is overconsumption only an individual matter? I think overpopulation doesn't exclude overconsumption. On the contrary: The more people there are, the more consumption there will be. Public welfare decreases population, that's true. But is also increases the footprint per individual. With the current world population, an entire world living like "the West" is impossible.
@Skoda130 Overconsuming means consuming more than the planet can handle and repair. Overconsuming is not only a individual matter. It also is a political issue with a society that encourages consuming in every aspect of life - all the time! It's true that with overpopulation comes more consuming but it's weird to focus on a poor african with 5-10 kids instead of a single American who has a larger ecological footprint than the mentioned family in Africa.
@rogerpenna save ALL THE ANIMALS? lol. The animals survived by them selves the last asteroid catastrophe and all the earlier climate changes. All we have is our technological advanced society, that would not survive well in these catastrophes. So think a little.....
by 2035 we will be in a mini ice age
judomagyar 1 month ago
Anyone who benefits from laws forced upon others or who themselves openly advocates outlawing marijuana or abortion or the right to euthanasia for others has ZERO right to complain about those of us who advocating putting YOU into prison for eating meat (look at ANY video on factory farming) or reproducing yourself.
Only vegans should be allowed to reproduce, and then, only after the world is made perfect first.
mphello 3 months ago
@mphello PRAISE VEGANISM. CRUSH THE LESSER RACES. CONQUER THE WORLD. HEIL HITLER. In case it wasn't clear I'm mocking you through the use of sarcasm.
DTanza 2 months ago
@DTanza
That's because you don't have an original thought in your head. Clearly, why not let everybody just rape everybody, like you'd like?
mphello 2 months ago
@mphello What. I. What. You just said that we should forcibly ban anyone who is not a vegan from breeding, and you're accusing me of wanting people to rape other people. What the hell is wrong with you.
DTanza 2 months ago
@DTanza
YOU clearly don't want laws against ANY behavior. A particular case of that is that you don't want laws against rape.
mphello 2 months ago
@mphello ...Because I said it's stupid to say we should ban anyone who isn't vegan from fucking that means I don't want laws against any behavior? You, get the fuck off my planet right now.
DTanza 2 months ago
@DTanza
Tough shit. You get the fuck off MY planet. I don't coddle rightwing conservative politically correct subhuman trash. I state my views openly and proudly. Eating meat is 100x worse than molesting children, which is pretty bad. Hence, anti-vegetarians should be treated as such.
mphello 2 months ago
@mphello I'M A GODDAMN SOCIALIST.
DTanza 2 months ago
@DTanza
Well, GOOD! At least you are doing ONE thing right. I voted THAT comment up.
mphello 2 months ago
@mphello I'm... Just going to end the conversation now out of embarrassment that people like you exist. And go get a bite to eat. Maybe a cheeseburger at a multinational burger chain.
DTanza 2 months ago
@DTanza BULLSHIT. I'm the greatest thing in your life - EVER. Otherwise, you wouldn't have started this conversation that wastes my time. You WILL continue this conversation forever, because that is what your kind DOES.
You are an embarrassment to socialists everywhere, as you obviously (being anti-vegetarian) do not care about the consequences of your actions and are mentally unable to compute the magnitude of them.
mphello 2 months ago
oh okay, GOD FORBID that we say anything about the CLIMATE as long as we can argue about political systems, or grow better wine in Italy.
Jamoogle42 4 months ago
Our problem is the growingly elaborate techniques of criminals. A century ago this started with the socialism and fascism scams, and has since morphed into the governmental poverty industry, environmentalism, and seditionist movements that seek to reimpose authoritarian governance in the name of "social justice" (such as in Venezuela).
Unless we can find a way to stop such people, their rapacious greed and violence will undo centuries of progress, and bring forth a new Dark Age for humanity.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel lol, Norway has a socialistic government. And yet USA is just filed with greed and shit.
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@GeneralBlackNorway If Norway has a socialist government, then they're filled with "greed and shit" too. Socialists are criminals, and the unionized ones are the greediest of them all.
DrCruel 10 months ago
@DrCruel Socialists are criminals?
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@GeneralBlackNorway Yup. Thieves, pirates and worse. They killed over 100 million people in the last century alone. Their well documented record of atrocities is an outrage against humanity.
But why do you need to ask? Surely this is obvious to you.
DrCruel 10 months ago
@DrCruel are you talking about the Nazis and commies? Surly you would know that you cant say that every socialist is a criminal just because there have been criminal socialists before. I would not say USA is free from criminals them selves. Norway have much less criminals than USA (compared too population). And btw, have you seen the Zeitgeist movie?
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@GeneralBlackNorway The ideology of socialism is criminal at its core, because it purports to lay claim to all the efforts of anyone that does anything that someone else might value. By virtue of being productive and useful, the socialist claims that such a person owes their efforts to the collective - which invariably is represented by socialists. Successful socialists live like aristocrats from the efforts of their slaves.
I consider Nazism to be a relatively "honest" form of socialism.
DrCruel 10 months ago
@DrCruel "I consider Nazism to be a relatively "honest" form of socialism."
Then you should know that in Nazi Germany the people were not "slaves" as you call them. Germany went from a total disaster to the worlds greatest military power in the matter of years. Before the war Germany flourished making the lives of its people much easier compared to after WW1. Successful capitalist are private and may own a large company. They usually have more to say than regular people in politics.
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@DrCruel And there are successful people in Norway. Rich people. So in Norway it's not PURE socialism. However some Norwegians call us the last communistic state. These rich people usually move away to get away from taxes. They do not wish to contribute to the system that made them so successful. These people are nothing more than criminals taking the advantage of our country. They do not even give anything back. It does not matter that the people is poor as long as these guys live in big villas
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@GeneralBlackNorway People are not "criminals" for not wanting to contribute to the wealth of aristocratic overlords. If you want to call those aristocrats "socialists", that's your problem.
Socialists cannot ultimately win. The people they rob will either fight back or run off. If they are jailed, the wealth that the socialists depend on stealing stops. The best they can hope for is a society like that in the PRC, where they can rent their slave labor out to corporations.
DrCruel 10 months ago
@DrCruel this is assuming that the government really steals from the people and do not do their job? Just like the US government. USA is going to shit in a down going curve. In Norway there are few poor people or close too none that are poor. however we have a problem with the immigrant policy. The bluest party of them all wants too throw them out and comes with Nazi like statements. Socialism is really all about that everybody is equal. Everybody should live good rather than a few live best.
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@GeneralBlackNorway Socialism is about taking from people who work, to give to people who don't. That's what socialism is here in the US. It's very big amongst the government unions.
If Norway is doing well, maybe it's because it isn't socialist. I can hardly see how they could do well under socialism. If socialists take over, the business people are either robbed out of existance or move elsewhere to make their products. Socialism is an ignorant, criminal system to live under.
DrCruel 10 months ago
@DrCruel with capitalism those who work hardest are those who are poor, and those who are rich are those who don't work hard. And those who become violent criminals are those who have grown up with a lot of shit and not as one of the rich. In more socialistic country's people are more equal and therefore there are less chance of becoming a violent criminal.
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
@GeneralBlackNorway Welfare recipients in the slums of Gary Indiana and Detroit Michigan don't work particularly hard - especially as the businesses there are driven out of business, one by one. Unionized government employees work even less ahrd, and demand raises and better benefits for their non-work. Most of their real effort is spent on preventing competition from forming.
Are you telling me there was no crime in Eastern Europe under Bolshevism? Or in Cuba? Or in Vietnam?
DrCruel 10 months ago
Castrate all males. Humans should be allowed to reproduce ONLY after they make it a perfectly fair world FIRST.
deskset24 1 year ago
@deskset24 The problem is, most of you socialist fucktards are serious.
That's why we need to have weapons, and lots of them.
DrCruel 10 months ago
Over population is not the main problem. The problem is that way too many humans are using way too much natural resources ( water, oil, and so on.....) too quickly.
Climpacman1 1 year ago
global warming is not caused by man
darpa322 1 year ago
@darpa322 Yes it is
vansterpartisten 1 year ago
@darpa322 is CO2 and methane climate gases? YES! Do we put more of them out in the atmosphere? YES! Would that cause global warming? YES! Predators eat smaller animals. If we increase the number of predators more smaller animals will be eaten. It's as simple as that.
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
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Cosmic radiation and solar activity causes the clouds. Clouds reflect heat.
The effect of the CO2 is infinitesimally small in comparison.
Henrik Svensmark should get a Nobel Prize for his excellent work together with Pierce Corbyn. and Dr. Lindzen!
It is time for a paradigm shift in meteorology and climate science!
The youtube-videos featuring these great man should convince even Al Gore.
judomagyar 1 year ago
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goog2k 2 years ago
This is a case of, Do as I say, not as I do. Al, and the other elitist in this film, will continue to live in their four mansions and fly on private jets and run up electric bills 20X of the rest of us. They have no intension of stopping their life styles to save the planet. Of course these people that want to kill off billions of humans will not include themselves on that list. The rest of us, the great unwashed, to the elitists, will have to live in caves or live like the Unibomber.
cupera1 2 years ago
oh they are always going on about our horrible end, how we are all gonna die in fear, if it is not this its a virus a swine flu a terror attack a nuclear holocust!
dont they just want us to live in fear????
pilomaya2012 2 years ago
no the idea of this is to make us think!!!
dappledopple 2 years ago
Dumbass, if you think the human race is invincible you have a lot of growing up to do. We are no more special than all the rest of the animals on this planet.
Chadwickyboy 2 years ago
@Chadwickyboy
Yes we are more special than all the rest of the animals on the planet. We are the ONLY ONES who come close to be able to save ALL THE ANIMALS on the planet from asteroid catastrophe, climate change caused by natural events or other natural events.
We are the only ones able to spread Earth´s genetic stock across the galaxy. Its our duty. Even a seahorse is closer to us than any alien species in the universe. Not by appearance, by genetic code.
rogerpenna 1 year ago
You think we can come close to stopping an asteroid catastrophe? Climate Change? We may be the only hope to stop these events, but we can't even stop an oil spill. You really think we can stop global warming? A majority of people don't even know what global warming IS, let alone "believe" in it. Your optimism is cute, but sadly, naive. At least you are aware of our distinctive biology, I do sense intelligence.
Chadwickyboy 1 year ago
@Chadwickyboy
We are not yet capable of doing those things. But we are on the path. We advanced so much in the last 100 years. Just think how much more we will be able to do in 100 from now.
we CAN stop manmade Global Warming. If we want. Of course, the biggest problem in this is political. Climate models are still evoluting too, so people dont completely trust them. In the future we will probably even be able to terraform other planets.
rogerpenna 1 year ago
@rogerpenna We don't even know how much man is contributing to global warming. We don't know anything, but we're running around in circles, just so no one can accuse us of doing nothing. The only thing that matters in the end, is overpopulation. We got to choose. We can't grow on forever AND being friendly to the environment at the same time.
Skoda130 1 year ago
@Skoda130 overpopulation wont be such a problem if we are able to produce cheap fusion.
rogerpenna 1 year ago
@rogerpenna Nice, very nice. But we can't live from fusion alone, and fusion doesn't even WORK yet.
Skoda130 1 year ago
@Skoda130 It's rather the overconsumtion that is the problem. The overpopulation can be solved by creating public welfare --> elderly care, education, jobs, poverty reduction etc.
vansterpartisten 1 year ago
@vansterpartisten But what exactly is the critical point? When are you exactly "overconsuming"? And is overconsumption only an individual matter? I think overpopulation doesn't exclude overconsumption. On the contrary: The more people there are, the more consumption there will be. Public welfare decreases population, that's true. But is also increases the footprint per individual. With the current world population, an entire world living like "the West" is impossible.
Skoda130 1 year ago
@Skoda130 Overconsuming means consuming more than the planet can handle and repair. Overconsuming is not only a individual matter. It also is a political issue with a society that encourages consuming in every aspect of life - all the time! It's true that with overpopulation comes more consuming but it's weird to focus on a poor african with 5-10 kids instead of a single American who has a larger ecological footprint than the mentioned family in Africa.
vansterpartisten 1 year ago
@vansterpartisten I think you can choose between two main scenario's for the future.:
1. You try to inhabit as many people on the planet as possible, with a footprint per individual, as small an possible.
2. You try to work towards a population-level that doesn't raise any concerns regarding the footprints.
It's a choice between a small life for many, or an comfortable life for less people.
Skoda130 1 year ago
@rogerpenna save ALL THE ANIMALS? lol. The animals survived by them selves the last asteroid catastrophe and all the earlier climate changes. All we have is our technological advanced society, that would not survive well in these catastrophes. So think a little.....
GeneralBlackNorway 10 months ago
omg- scariest thing i ever seen
masterjacarbi 2 years ago
"US president Chelsea Clinton" bwahhh haaa haaa haaa.. brilliant.
lombeer 2 years ago
not that hillarious, because they usually pas the baton on to peopl in the bloodline!
pilomaya2012 2 years ago
Chelsea Clinton will defeat the Bush twins
d3p3ch3mod3 2 years ago
A fight to the death? I'll watch that, sure.
lombeer 2 years ago
Thank you Franny and Lizzie and all the rest of you wonderful people!
simonpra 3 years ago