i'm not looking forward to the day i accidently land in water in my V4 and hangwag boots. i'm sure most base jumpers will know what i'm talking about. i really don't think i'd get out of it all in time
if you've ever landed in water in han wags i'd like to hear how it went. i've jumped in my pool a few times in them to see how they go and they're not much fun. would hate to add a wingsuit into the equation
they say in a wingsuit you fall with some 50 miles per hour, that's like a free fall of 20 metres I calculated... so cou CAN jump without a parachute, only need to land on water and need to know wether the wingsuit will break or not
@Rivannous Yeah you are 'falling' at 50 miles an hour. What the wingsuit does is transfer the force of the air you are passing through into lift, which slows your rate of fall. But that is transferred into forward momentum. Some wingsuits are capable of a 2.5/1 ratio. Which means for every 1 foot you fall, you move 2.5 feet forward. That is how the 'glide' works in a wingsuit. So if you are 'falling' at 50mph, you'd be 'flying' forward at roughly 125mph. You can't land in water...........
@torchwoodtooms couldn't you try to turn upwards fevore you enter the water?
that would slow down your forward momentum and generate more lift for less impact velocity, correct me if I'm wrong. wouldn't it be then possible to land on water?
@Rivannous You cannot fly 'upwards'. In a wingsuit you are still falling. If you flare to appear to gain 'altitude' you are just marginally slowing your decent compared to fellow divers (cameraman etc.) If you overflare you lose forward momentum and your decent increases. Keep in mind wingsuits almost achieve terminal velocity (around 120mph). At that speed hitting water is like hitting concrete.... head first.
@Rivannous There ARE people who are striving to be the first to actually land a wingsuit. The first to jump from a plane, achieve terminal velocity, and land, without a chute. Water offers greater resistance the greater the entry speed. The force of hitting water at 100+mph could literally rip your arms and legs off.. It would be great if you could safely land in water. But the physics are against it.
And that's because I was thinking about a way to land on water. If you could kill that forward momentum it would be possible. Landing on water at 100+ mph is nearly impossible, as it's like a free fall from 50 meters. Killing the forward momentum could be possible, just think about how a plane could land safely. So it should be possible according to the physics. It may be difficult to create such a suit, that could give you this upward momentum.
And of course I know, that you can't fly upwards with a wingsuit, but i was thinking about angling your body some 20-30° upwards for not flying upwards, but decreasing your falling speed because of the air resistance.
if you angle yourself 45 degrees, you would have 50% upward and 50% backward momentum that sould slow you down in both your directions, forward and downward, simply by adding a force opposite to your moving direction. I don't know if that's possible...
... but you could indeed slow down a bit, before gaining downward speed again because of lack of air resistance at lesser speed. I don't know how much that would be, because I don't know the exact physics of a wingsuit and it's air resistance in angled flight, but i assume, there would be an effect. I'm pretty sure that you cannot really land on water without a chute, because the slowdown effects will be minor and noone tried it so far, so maybe it's impossible...
@torchwoodtooms Take a paper plane as a model (i know this model sucks, because a paper plane has a much lower density as a wingsuit jumper has and therefore has much greater air resistance), but sometimes paper planes slow down considerably in both directions, foreward and downward, before flying downwards again, just to repeat this process. The thrack they follow is like a wave, with an upward speed at the end of one wavelength (sorry bout my english...)
... the very same physics apply, but i know that the effecct may be insignificant because of the air resistance of the lower air resistance per weight measure of a wingsuit jumper, but there will be an effect, so you can't deny that you could at least slow down a bit, even if that's only some theoretical thought, whilst in nature you only slow down like 2 mph. So it may be not possible due to the lack of enough air resistance, not because physics are against it.
obviously if your doing research on this you will all ready of took into consideration that, after a 5000 meter free-fall, your adrenaline will play a massive part in how long you can hold your breath under water, Awsome Job you have though ;-)
your juming into indoor pools, things might be different, if for example the water was warm salt water, also currents and waves could possibly present a complication
Good work. *-*
ViniciusGiampaulo 2 months ago
This song is fucking awesome! I'd love to jam in a band like this. Hell yea
ColeFried81 3 months ago
i'm not looking forward to the day i accidently land in water in my V4 and hangwag boots. i'm sure most base jumpers will know what i'm talking about. i really don't think i'd get out of it all in time
beardedswine 3 months ago
*han wag boots
beardedswine 3 months ago
if you've ever landed in water in han wags i'd like to hear how it went. i've jumped in my pool a few times in them to see how they go and they're not much fun. would hate to add a wingsuit into the equation
beardedswine 3 months ago
Marine training ... we would use the suit to aid in floatation, capturing air, when feasable.
danphillyman 3 months ago
@danphillyman Good luck with that. FWIW, we've trained Marines. And Navy.
The suit isn't like a pair of jeans that you can toss over your head, capture air and survival float with.
Try it. After more than 50 entries and experiments, I'd suggest we have at least figured out what doesn't work.
VASSTTraining 3 months ago
What is the water temperature for example in Norway ? ;-)
JerkCruel 3 months ago
@JerkCruel For example, the same as most anywhere in the same latitude? 50 F or 10C, depending on if you're wearing red or blue. ;)
VASSTTraining 3 months ago
What's the band?
errepeerre 5 months ago
what is the music here?
triplesol69 5 months ago
you gotta swim like a mermaid
SmackDownVsRaw002 7 months ago 6
they say in a wingsuit you fall with some 50 miles per hour, that's like a free fall of 20 metres I calculated... so cou CAN jump without a parachute, only need to land on water and need to know wether the wingsuit will break or not
Rivannous 11 months ago
@Rivannous Yeah you are 'falling' at 50 miles an hour. What the wingsuit does is transfer the force of the air you are passing through into lift, which slows your rate of fall. But that is transferred into forward momentum. Some wingsuits are capable of a 2.5/1 ratio. Which means for every 1 foot you fall, you move 2.5 feet forward. That is how the 'glide' works in a wingsuit. So if you are 'falling' at 50mph, you'd be 'flying' forward at roughly 125mph. You can't land in water...........
torchwoodtooms 8 months ago
@torchwoodtooms couldn't you try to turn upwards fevore you enter the water?
that would slow down your forward momentum and generate more lift for less impact velocity, correct me if I'm wrong. wouldn't it be then possible to land on water?
Rivannous 8 months ago
@Rivannous You cannot fly 'upwards'. In a wingsuit you are still falling. If you flare to appear to gain 'altitude' you are just marginally slowing your decent compared to fellow divers (cameraman etc.) If you overflare you lose forward momentum and your decent increases. Keep in mind wingsuits almost achieve terminal velocity (around 120mph). At that speed hitting water is like hitting concrete.... head first.
torchwoodtooms 8 months ago
@Rivannous There ARE people who are striving to be the first to actually land a wingsuit. The first to jump from a plane, achieve terminal velocity, and land, without a chute. Water offers greater resistance the greater the entry speed. The force of hitting water at 100+mph could literally rip your arms and legs off.. It would be great if you could safely land in water. But the physics are against it.
torchwoodtooms 8 months ago
@torchwoodtooms
And that's because I was thinking about a way to land on water. If you could kill that forward momentum it would be possible. Landing on water at 100+ mph is nearly impossible, as it's like a free fall from 50 meters. Killing the forward momentum could be possible, just think about how a plane could land safely. So it should be possible according to the physics. It may be difficult to create such a suit, that could give you this upward momentum.
Rivannous 8 months ago
@torchwoodtooms
And of course I know, that you can't fly upwards with a wingsuit, but i was thinking about angling your body some 20-30° upwards for not flying upwards, but decreasing your falling speed because of the air resistance.
if you angle yourself 45 degrees, you would have 50% upward and 50% backward momentum that sould slow you down in both your directions, forward and downward, simply by adding a force opposite to your moving direction. I don't know if that's possible...
Rivannous 8 months ago
@torchwoodtooms
... but you could indeed slow down a bit, before gaining downward speed again because of lack of air resistance at lesser speed. I don't know how much that would be, because I don't know the exact physics of a wingsuit and it's air resistance in angled flight, but i assume, there would be an effect. I'm pretty sure that you cannot really land on water without a chute, because the slowdown effects will be minor and noone tried it so far, so maybe it's impossible...
Rivannous 8 months ago
@torchwoodtooms Take a paper plane as a model (i know this model sucks, because a paper plane has a much lower density as a wingsuit jumper has and therefore has much greater air resistance), but sometimes paper planes slow down considerably in both directions, foreward and downward, before flying downwards again, just to repeat this process. The thrack they follow is like a wave, with an upward speed at the end of one wavelength (sorry bout my english...)
To winsuit Jumpers...
Rivannous 8 months ago
@torchwoodtooms
... the very same physics apply, but i know that the effecct may be insignificant because of the air resistance of the lower air resistance per weight measure of a wingsuit jumper, but there will be an effect, so you can't deny that you could at least slow down a bit, even if that's only some theoretical thought, whilst in nature you only slow down like 2 mph. So it may be not possible due to the lack of enough air resistance, not because physics are against it.
Rivannous 8 months ago
obviously if your doing research on this you will all ready of took into consideration that, after a 5000 meter free-fall, your adrenaline will play a massive part in how long you can hold your breath under water, Awsome Job you have though ;-)
stigg46 1 year ago
hoo yes!!! SO?
ELOVman 1 year ago
ehm what are you actually doing?????
SkidKid112 1 year ago 13
@SkidKid112
.....your dumb
D231991 1 year ago
@SkidKid112 this is practicing for if u accidentaly land in the ocean. so you dont drown
MegaLavaJava 11 months ago
Maybe you guys will save someones life after he look at this. Good idea!
justanotherfreak2008 1 year ago
Great video, could save a life someday, keep up the great work :-)
Skydive4ever 1 year ago 8
@Skydive4ever Isn't skydiving all about dying young?
mryellow123 1 year ago
your juming into indoor pools, things might be different, if for example the water was warm salt water, also currents and waves could possibly present a complication
unexceptionalrebel 1 year ago