Ageia PhysX Compare Video

[TwinZiEx]

what game is that?

[Poodleinacan]

If theire was a mix of GeoMod (from Red Faction:guerrila... or the next one, Armagedon) and PhysX... it would be SO AWESOME.

[angleisthebest]

PhysX = worst and the biggest gimmick in the history of PC gaming.

[lVleSHuGGA]

@angleisthebest i think its actually pretty sweet but also again i got a 5870 and a GT 240 for dedicated physX

[angleisthebest]

@lVleSHuGGA Well I still stand by what I said. PhysX is a crappy gimmick, merely adding a handful (1 or 2) of dynamically rendered objects to the same pre-rendered room to choke a useless low profile card...I've seen those Batman AA PhysX videos, complete and utter crap. Physics cards were a viable option when dual cores just came about but now? With 6 core CPUs already out and 8 core CPUs on the way next year? Give me a fucking break, PhysX is a joke.

[dsi24]

@angleisthebest If physics is a gimmick so is sound and visuals.

[angleisthebest]

@dsi24 I didn't say physics are a gimmick, I said PhysX is a gimmick...You clearly misread my post dude.

[afriskyfox]

tone doun the fucking presentation software retard had to sit threw 3 minuts of bull shit!

[unfeared11]

Uh... they are talking about the Ageia physx gpu card.

[yusthavinfun]

and ageia is bought by nvidea. the cards are qute rare now and nvidia has put physx proseccors in all 8xxx cards and up.

[BloodPhoenix123]

its in the 7800 too

[yusthavinfun]

hmm didint know that. thanks for the info

(btw since when are there faling afterglowing fire chunks coming out of a flamethrower?)

[BloodPhoenix123]

yeah i was wondering about that too

think it could be shopped?

[yusthavinfun]

nah its just a failure in the game becouse they wanted physx a little too bad

[chiquinholoco]

What game is it?

[entropy11]

Looks like Bet on Soldier: Blood Sport. below average sequel to a below average game.

[chris43554]

To me looks like oblivion with grenades :D

[nabiul2]

The only difference visible here is the extra sprites that are generated when the physics card is there, which is kind of cheating on the game developers part because the option to enable them isn't even there without a card, still doesn't prove that the card does squat.

[jhayem12]

Hi I just need a suggestion.

my system specs

Pentium 4 socket 478 3.0ghz

Asus P4P800 se

PNY nvidea geforce 7600gs 512mb ddr2

2gb pny ddr memory

500 wattz psu

so I just want to know if i still need this card? please give youre suggestion. i dont want to spend alot of money just to build a new pc, so please email me back at jhaym_pascual12@yahoo(dot)com

[kruper11]

this card will give you nothing.. your pc is to old and too weak to handle any of the new games with or without PhysX accelerator... consider to buy a core2duo processor 2 Gb of ram and a Geforce 8 or 9 series GPU which actually has a physx processor built in and since yesterday Physx drivers are out for geforce G92 based gpu`s...

[wanneklap]

im planning to buy a computer with these specs :

AMD PHENOM 9950 x4

4gb ram (1066)

2x GF 9600GT 512mb DDR3

and im wondering if one of these card would help me. Also do they improve fps cpu% etc in games that dont have the physix logo on the box ? like Call of duty 2 , .... (and got any experience with the 9serie of GF ? i heard rumors that the 8 serie is still bether and thats the 9 serie is the 8600chip with some extra features ,,?)

Many cheers man !

[Shads2k1]

Even a Quad core system and 8800GTX can't do what a PhysX card can. You -don't- really need this card, the game will just run fine without it. PhysX card is there to add eye-candy, it won't make your game suddenly go twice as fast. Plus, only games that has PhysX logo that can take advantage of the card.

[marco1meijer]

It will raise your framerate.

Your CPU or GPU won't have to compute the phisics-calculations.

Though it is indeed mainly meant for eyecandy.

But I think the eyecandy is pretty impressive.

Too bad there aren't too many games that can actually use the card, though some very popular ones can (like Rainbow Six Vegas), so you won't buy it for nothing.

And such a nice system indeed can't do the same without PhysX. 8800GTX's don't have a real built-in PPU. They just put a "CUBA-code" in the driver.

[machination2]

Nice music.

[cinkan92]

too much slow motion, makes it unreal

[NubiaPrince]

So True

In Fact Explosions Generate Force Filed Pushes Particles Around In All Directions in Sonic Speeds ,That Effects on Any Object or Creature in the Range and The Force Pushes them Away

That's How Real Physics Works in Life

They need to Watch the 'Braniac' Show in Discovery Channel :D

They Might Learn and SEE How Physics Works in Life ;)

[jamesstone123]

by and large, a physx card is not what everyone thinks it is. It takes over any jobs involving the physical destruction of environments. Ergo, anything destroyed in a game without physx may look completely different to one with physx, simply because everything undergoes different algorithms than it would in your CPU

[MaLcH10R]

whats the song?

[BloodRaven876]

realy?? how bout the 8800gt???

[BloodRaven876]

does the MSI-nx8800gt OC have ageia psysx built in ???

[Piacco2706]

the physX card is not included in any graphics card.

[BloodRaven876]

well is it built in the 9800 gtx maybe ???

[bdude1992]

nope

[Piacco2706]

no but good graphics cards like the 8800gt can do the same thing but not as fast as the physX can. because the physX is ONLY for the physics. so it'll be slower when your graphics card has to calculate the physics and the graphics.

[Mechafizz024]

so i don't know if it's built into the 8800's

[Mechafizz024]

I was price browsing on dell for an xps and even with an SLI of the nividia 8800 gt they still asked me if i wanted a physx accelerator

[livingpersononyoutub]

Yes, the new Nvidia card will have physx built in.

[yarow122]

Is it true that ATi isn't capibal of using a PhysX card to it's full potential anymore?Should I just forget about getting a PhysX card if I have an ATi GPU?

[megacomrade]

FORGET ATI!!!!!!!!!!

[yarow122]

...Ok~ o.o

ANYWAY, does anyone else have an answer to my question?

[ragexp82]

new nvidia card is going to have the Ageia PhysX chip on it, that's what I heard or maybe not, we will know for sure...

[henrikb4]

It's not exactly what it's going to be like.

If you have SLi, you will be able to simulate physics using CUDA. It will use the same API as PhysX.

So if you have SLi, you will get PhysX some day.

[Finger2212]

Either way, that game looks retarded, and I don't see much realism with the Physx card, unless two dimensional green goo is something you're after.

[yackemflamber]

wat game is that

[bangity]

well.. it's not pointless even if you have a Quad core... i tested with the Source engine and everything on MAX 16AA and 16 AF with my 8800GT

without Physx: 181fps

with Physx: 183fps

Not much improvement in frame rate there but the thing is the physic in the game will be much different i guess since i haven't tested any other games. I tested Switchball and see little improvement from 8800GT to 88000GT + Physx card. But the 8800GT doesn't do fluid as good. Lots of Eye Candy!!! GET ONE NOW..

[ff8123]

No. Physx is NOT supported by source engine. Your card does nothing in those games.

[xLordJeevesx]

ati needs to combat the nvidia and ageia partner or else ati will be in some deep doo-doo.

[bigbone38]

ati will never compare or beat nvidia so obvious

[thomasy93]

Now when Nvidia owns Ageia, we can expect a shit load of good gfx cards from nvidia the next years!

[bloodduty]

to be honist if you have a dual or a quad with a DX10 video card then this end up near pointless any way

[Cylon7x]

News Flash:

AGEIA PhysX has been bought by nVidia, i dont know if that is good news or bad news...

[bloodduty]

Well Intel have Havok now Nvidia will have PhysX AMD ATI wont have any thing was realy disappointed in there 3870 my 8800 GTS still better then it i my end up sending the 3870 back

[xkeo21]

still needs 2/3 years development before its any good imo

[ocgra]

is it lava that comes out of that weapon.. not heavy lava, that a life time for it to fall to the ground.. is it physicX all about particle that comes out of explocions.. and only certain objects... what about fire that bounces from wooden boxes.. is that PHYSIC.. quantum physic.. or geek physics.. not wasting $150 on that..

[TakronRust]

If they integrated the Phys-X with say Havok or something instead of requiring you to use THEIR physics engine I think this could have gone somewhere.

[ShambleSHimSelf]

the people also seem slow to fall down,

I understand that theres more to it than you see here with tear effects for cloth and more,

Any way As i asked which gfx card were they using? As this could be the cause for the blaitant physics slowdown..

And which cpu were they using??

i have a q6600 and an 8600 gt if they had better I wont be buying to test it.

So info please.

[ShambleSHimSelf]

Some one Tell me which GFX card they are using with this?

The extra effects are cool But they seem to be slow.

flame throwers leaving dripping flaming puddles are realistic. But the apparant lack of the normal 1 newton of gravity makes it look asthough its on the moon..

this is a big letdown for me..

[reyuken]

Kinda looks fake.

Like the flames rolling over the floor.

And a grenade spewing out green crystals?

Wtf.

[jrdn7730]

I would have to agree with you.

[nelsonica2007]

a quad core cpu today can to thes very easy!!!! marketing crap from ageia!! and with the next gen quad core from intel and amd bye bye ageia

[DragonSGA]

true

[ignolan]

This is true, but you can save some fps by using a physX processor. Besides, if you have enough money for a quad core, you can probably salvage enough money to buy a physics card

[Cylon7x]

yes, both is better i agree, im getting this card when i save some dough

[Airakobra]

Yea! you can see the Cell Factor demo! there are like 2000 objects reacting like they should when colliding/being hit/destroyed(taking in consideration weight, dimensions, momentum, surfaces) it totally brings the possibilities to infinty! it's so great having a device only to calculate and apply physic reality and laws to the game's engines =D

[eppesuig75]

play crysis with this omg tahts oooooohh cool

[girass]

why is it every time i see a physx demo everything controlled by the ppu is super super slow moving, like it weighs half a gram or like the ppu is struggling? cos.. its like everything.. not just gas/liquids.. not that it isnt sweet.. but why does that happen? is it struggling or do they purposfully do that in demos to show it off?

[Airakobra]

It's on purpose

[girass]

awesome :D

[Airakobra]

Yea i Love it =P

[weyes08]

Fire turning into frozen particles of lava?

Thats not "physically" possible.

[taproot12]

physx look better in Ghost recon AW 2

[kunaiofdarkness]

when it hits the carpet/rug it turnes it into half liquid half solid XD pay close attention lol

[ramodkk]

Looks better without PhysX. Fire going liquid? And the explosions and movement of things look very slow, like no gravity. Also with the green thing explosions, the particles made a sphere, not realistic IMO...

[mexboiii]

the supposed fire going liquid are the burning cinders from the walls. if you concentrate on one spot the wall will burn down

[gbushimprov]

The reason that the fire looks like liquid is because flamethrowers spew out the fuel with the fire to give it better range, otherwise it'd just be a very large lighter.

[spencerpoyle2004]

these physx cards are cool but they are only compatible with about 15 games most of which such. if it was compatable with ALOT more games yes i would buy it but for £80+ pounds dont bother!!

[fireblade2727]

yea this card is actually for the future of gaming. all the game companies have taken it on board in there new games so if ya really in to games it wouldn't hurt to get one now

[Graylord88]

And the "slowmotion" speed on stuff depends from game to game, just watch cellfactor!

[slongstar]

wtf it looks better with out thr physx card. fire turning into lave????????? and it look like your playing with the gravity of the moon!!!!

[Graylord88]

It isnt fire thats flowing around, its half-burning napalm, which IS a liquid!

[slongstar]

fair enough

[Merudo]

finally, somebody said it!

To the Comments of it moving too slowly, that's down to the game producers. As a technical slideshow of what can be done its fantastic though!

[Jeroenske]

its too slow and that makes it looks fake.

Other that that it nice but games must support it.

Mabey they should stop making these silly cards and talk to amd/intel/nvidia to integrate this into a gpu or dual/quad core cpu.

[alienstorexxx]

if you look at painkiller physics, it's the same

[ninjahua]

they only good in this video is the song.. i like the game better without ageia but maybe on other games is better with ageia PhysX

[peterfaj]

too slow motion and fire gets hard?

[zChaosx]

Slow motion makes it like, unrealistic.

[bourgeois000]

the fire doesn't even look good ... i don't understand the "balls" of fire, or lava like thingy ...

and with the wierd slowmotion effect when stuff fall down, i don't really get it

i guess for those aspects, it 's only the game that is like that, and not the card that does it

[omgwtfjewlol]

its a shame that nothign supports it. . .

[kozadongre]

what song is this?

[2cool2watch]

What game is that it loks really good?!

[KohrsAKT]

W/E Works the same whit my Intel Quad Core Extreme..

[1schwererziehbar1]

the card woul dbe more interesting if the physics would have an effect on the actual gameplay, not only on what oyu see.

[Zairzo]

does PhysX accelerate your graphics card so it doesn't chug as much?

[1schwererziehbar1]

PhysX is never used for any graphics. it is only for physics. i wonder why many people are confused about that. maybe because in most e-stores the PhysX card is in the graphics cards section.

[A2ii2cs]

um? wat does ageia physx do exactly?

[Waldo913]

turbis:

"Except from the particles from grenades and flame throwers, it looks pretty much like half life 2 physics (havoc)"

Do your homework, bro. Half-Life 2 runs on the Source Engine, not Havoc. Also, the only thing they're trying to hilight in this video ARE the flamethrower and grenade particle effects. I'm not trying to flame, but please know about your subject before posting.

[Waldo913]

My apologies, Havoc was liscenced into the Source engine. *foot in mouth*

[DarthOblivius]

This is crap compared to DMM and Euphoria. Though nice song I'll admit that.

[alizta]

How does PhysX even compare to euphoria? Euphoria is a AI system for CPU calculated character Animation, PhysX is a Physics simulation system for Hardware accelerated real time physics. Thats like saying "Apples are crap compared to the color blue".

[MrKickyourbutt]

Actually, Euphoria does that and more. For example, it realistically simulates the breakage of wood, glass, and other materials, as well as regular physics computation. It probably won't display as many physics objects on the screen as PhysX, but I think it does so more realistically.

[rollusaskunky]

PhysX looks like a gimic to me...and since when did fire behave like that

[PridhamPro]

Ok, this reassured me not to get a physX card.

[1nazchan]

Agreed

[alizta]

That make a lot sense. "Guitar Hero sucked, this reassured me never to get a PS3, because if there is one bad game, than all PS3 games have to suck"

[turbis]

Except from the particles from grenades and flame throwers, it looks pretty much like half life 2 physics (havoc)

[nineinchtaint]

What is their obsession with slow motion physics? Making everything explode and fall in slow motion makes it look really fake...

[lucyfer22]

the card costs too much, it is loud,anyway GF8800 can do that asswell so why bother and spend shit load of money for something that isn't used widely in games, many game Developers use Havok 4.5 now since it is easier to code , and the games run smoothly not as the other titles witch are bloated after some game time using Ageia. Anyway using "Bet on soldier" as a physics demo for the Ageia Card is silly since the game isn't playable, it isn't a 'blockbuster game'

[siggi11]

I have 8800 and the card... it's fucking sweet, man, sweet i tell you.

[DFaz3]

the bodies fell to sloww

[Termisk8er]

the physics seem too lofty

[MetalliromanceXP]

games are getting more realistic....

[dangerousminds0hotm]

es una mierda, las fisica que le introducen a los juegos es muy exagerada tan exagerada que se sale de los terminos de la realidad, lo que importa en un juego es su buena optimizacion

[lozer244]

well...i tihnk we all no who the weiner is..i mean winner

[vitalio89]

tringls lock stupid buy 8800gtx and play Crysis this is the gaming!

[shogg]

Many of the upcoming games are going to be using it, it's a growing technology which will eventually be standard

[daranik]

how many games actually support this hardware?

[jesuitson]

Quite nice... what song is that? Sounds like John Petrucci.

[jesuitson]

Oh... never mind. It says at the end of the vid.